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post #3391 of 4707
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Originally Posted by Toys7505 View Post

Next?
And you got the same result when you first riped the movie with MakeMKV (WDTV profile)? Can't see anything special about the file specs. Unfortunately it's too large to upload for us to test and upping a 5 min clip would probably make no difference since you say you can watch half the movie.
Edited by techflaws - 10/9/13 at 10:29pm
post #3392 of 4707
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Originally Posted by techflaws View Post

And you got the same result when you first riped the movie with MakeMKV (WDTV profile)? Can't see anything special about the file specs. Unfortunately it's too large to upload for us to test and upping a 5 min clip would probably make no difference since you say you can watch half the movie.

What do you mean by "WDTV profile" for MakeMKV? I havent heard of this before.......

Toys
post #3393 of 4707
I didnt realize there was an expert mode in MakeMKV......once I checked it off in the preferences, I could see the WDTV profile. Currently reripping T2 - Judgement Day and will test on the WD SMP via USB connection only. Will report results shortly......I also have a tech support all with WD today with a level II tech, will see what this brings as well. Stay tuned.......

Toys
post #3394 of 4707
Does anyone know what the differences are between a regular MakeMKV rip and one that uses the WDTV profile? Just curious for my knowledge........

Thanks
Toys
post #3395 of 4707
The only difference is that the subs are compressed with zlib (as MKVToolnix does by default) so that the WDTV displays them.
post #3396 of 4707
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Originally Posted by techflaws View Post

The only difference is that the subs are compressed with zlib (as MKVToolnix does by default) so that the WDTV displays them.

Ahhh ok, thanks for clarifying....

Toys
post #3397 of 4707
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Originally Posted by Toys7505 View Post

I didnt realize there was an expert mode in MakeMKV......once I checked it off in the preferences, I could see the WDTV profile. Currently reripping T2 - Judgement Day and will test on the WD SMP via USB connection only. Will report results shortly......I also have a tech support all with WD today with a level II tech, will see what this brings as well. Stay tuned.......

Toys

Well I played the rerip of T2 using the WDTV profile from MakeMKV using USB connection, no network connection, no hdmi, using composite straight my tv......

Movie froze......

Waiting on WD tech support call now

Toys
post #3398 of 4707
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Originally Posted by MPearl View Post

Okay, that's a bit harsh . . . Good luck and sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Thanks for the discussion. I guess I'll stick to the old mantra of "if it isn't broke, don't fix it".
post #3399 of 4707
Just got off the phone with WD Level II tech support. I sent them about 6 different Mediainfo files of MKV movies that freeze. Tech said they are gonna analyze them and get back to me. Stay tuned.......

Toys
post #3400 of 4707
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Just got off the phone with WD Level II tech support. I sent them about 6 different Mediainfo files of MKV movies that freeze. Tech said they are gonna analyze them and get back to me. Stay tuned.......

Good luck man. I have 2 units that do the same thing, WD's response was "they're out of warranty so you need to replace them." Very exciting, got to love it.
post #3401 of 4707
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Originally Posted by dzl13 View Post

Good luck man. I have 2 units that do the same thing, WD's response was "they're out of warranty so you need to replace them." Very exciting, got to love it.

My only saving grace is my unit is only 7 days old (RMA'd one).......

Toys
post #3402 of 4707
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Originally Posted by Toys7505 View Post

Just got off the phone with WD Level II tech support. I sent them about 6 different Mediainfo files of MKV movies that freeze. Tech said they are gonna analyze them and get back to me. Stay tuned.......

Toys

Don't get your hopes up. They'll probably tell you the same thing we are: The mediainfo looks fine. But the problem (if you can call it that) with MediaInfo is that it's ONLY looking at headers and metadata. It cannot verify the integrity of the actual streams.
post #3403 of 4707
Toys, Do you have another computer or drive you can rip from?
post #3404 of 4707
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Originally Posted by Otter0911 View Post

Toys, Do you have another computer or drive you can rip from?

I have a desktop as well but it only has a DVD-rom drive, no Blu Ray...........

Toys
post #3405 of 4707
BTW, have you already tried the very same MKV on a friend's media player? And what about when you remux the movie to m2ts or rip the whole disc to ISO and play that? And above all: is it possible the player is simply overheating after a while which is why sooner or later every file freezes? What if you put in on the side or place a fan over it?
post #3406 of 4707
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Originally Posted by techflaws View Post

BTW, have you already tried the very same MKV on a friend's media player? And what about when you remux the movie to m2ts or rip the whole disc to ISO and play that? And above all: is it possible the player is simply overheating after a while which is why sooner or later every file freezes? What if you put in on the side or place a fan over it?

My friends arent into the electronics the way I am and none of them have a WD SMP for me to try out. My first unit was getting extremely hot which was why WD rma'd the thing. The new unit I have has had a fan on it since to keep it cool. Havent tried to remux to a m2ts file yet for a couple of reasons: 1 everytime I try to download and install tsmuxer, I get a whole bunch of other crap with it. Anyone have a " clean" link to just the program? 2 I dont want to have to remux every single movie I have to another format - over 500 movies.......

Considering going a different route now if this thing is going to be this much damn trouble.......

Toys
post #3407 of 4707
post #3408 of 4707
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Originally Posted by Toys7505 View Post

Havent tried to remux to a m2ts file yet for a couple of reasons: 1 everytime I try to download and install tsmuxer, I get a whole bunch of other crap with it. Anyone have a " clean" link to just the program?
??? I don't know what that's all about.

Here is the link to tsMuxeR on VideoHelp.com. On that page just click on the link "Download from our site (direct link) (2.6MB)"

That will download the tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip file. There are only 4 files in that .zip, of which only two are the executables. There is nothing to install and there is no garbage included. Just create a new folder on your desktop; copy in the files tsMuxeR.exe and tsMuxerGUI.exe from the .zip file; double-click tsMuxerGUI.exe to launch the program. Convert your problem MKV to BD.m2ts and see what happens.

The threads for every player contain posts from people having issues with a "problem" MKV. That seems to be the nature of the MKV beast. Some people claim to never have had a problem with MKV's of the same titles on the same players -- that is what is maddening about MKV. I've never seen a problem post for a BD title ripped to native .m2ts. The Live-SMP loves BD.m2ts. I have over 200 BD.m2ts and have never had a playback problem through all the firmware updates of the Live-SMP or the Live-Plus before it.
post #3409 of 4707
I would also suggest using tsMuxeR to convert to .m2ts to see if that fixes your problem, it is fast takes about as long as it takes to read and write the file. Also tsMuxeR is now being updated by the original author to be able to process 3D Blu-Ray disks, it is being done on the Doom9.org forum.

Mike T
post #3410 of 4707
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

??? I don't know what that's all about.

Here is the link to tsMuxeR on VideoHelp.com. On that page just click on the link "Download from our site (direct link) (2.6MB)"

That will download the tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip file. There are only 4 files in that .zip, of which only two are the executables. There is nothing to install and there is no garbage included. Just create a new folder on your desktop; copy in the files tsMuxeR.exe and tsMuxerGUI.exe from the .zip file; double-click tsMuxerGUI.exe to launch the program. Convert your problem MKV to BD.m2ts and see what happens.

The threads for every player contain posts from people having issues with a "problem" MKV. That seems to be the nature of the MKV beast. Some people claim to never have had a problem with MKV's of the same titles on the same players -- that is what is maddening about MKV. I've never seen a problem post for a BD title ripped to native .m2ts. The Live-SMP loves BD.m2ts. I have over 200 BD.m2ts and have never had a playback problem through all the firmware updates of the Live-SMP or the Live-Plus before it.

OK, Thanks for the link!! I have downloaded the program, unzipped it, but when I went to "add" T2 - Judgement Day - I got this error message pop up



I went ahead anyway and remixed to a m2ts file. Now I'm gonna go try it out and see what happens..............

Toys
post #3411 of 4707
I get that message from time to time with no issues with the rip afterwards.

Bill
post #3412 of 4707
Well, the remixed MKV to M2TS actually worked - unbefreakinleivable!!! This was with attached USB, HDMI connection, and bitstreaming audio to my AVR. Only thing left would be to try playing it over my network

I did notice I lost my chapter marks when playing the M2TS version as to where I had chapter marks on the MKV version. DId I do something wrong when remuxing it?

Great, just great - I don't want to have to remux my ENTIRE movie library so this little snot nose device can play them!!

Anyone know if Mediabrowser plays M2TS files? That's my "frontend" on my HTPC.......

Toys
post #3413 of 4707
The m2ts container does not contain chapter marks.

I see you've been using MKVToolnix 6.41. In 6.x new parameters were introduced that might throw off some standalones. However, since I haven't read anyone complaining about this yet, I figured WD had finally done as the standard suggests and set the WDTV to ignore these (unlike what happened with header compression). Still, it would be interesting to see what happens when you remux the file - from BD or the m2ts but not from the 6.x MKV - with 5.x.
Edited by techflaws - 10/12/13 at 4:58am
post #3414 of 4707
I'm looking to buy a media player. Something that I can connect an external USB HD (WD passport 2TB) with .mkv, .avi and mp4 movies and TV shows on it. That has hdmi and coax audio out. That also supports DTS and 5.1 audio. I do not need streaming. I was looking into inexpensive bluray players, with these features, but it looks like all new bluray players have the Cinavia detection. That is something that I want to avoid. I was leaning toward the WD TV Live Streaming Media Player, but there seems to be a lot of issues with heat. Are there any other media players, that meet my needs, that anybody knows of. Thanks for any information
post #3415 of 4707
I have never had any heat issues with my SMP. I just keep it raised with a couple of small bumper pads so it get airflow underneath. I don't think this is too much of an issue unless you you have it sitting on a receiver or other device. It's a good device that will do all the things you mention, but note that it does not have a coaxial out jack. It comes with HDMI, Optical and Composite.

Good Luck

-P
post #3416 of 4707
I don't have an issues with heat and I'm watching high bitrate 1080p files extensively. You could buy at Amazon and return it if you experience heat issues.
post #3417 of 4707
No heat issues here and some days it's running for 12+ hours.

Bill
post #3418 of 4707
I think I've only read one person who claimed to have heat issues with his Live-SMP. Mine sits on the top self under the flat panel in open air. The top is barely warm to the touch, no more so than any of my other components. I don't see that there would be any heat issues with it.
post #3419 of 4707
What others have said right above me. Mines is located in a drawer (glass front for the remote) that is totally closed off. Still no heat issues, even after playing 1080p content for a few hours. And I have had mines for a couple years now.
post #3420 of 4707
No heat issues here either. I have two in active use and have given two to family members.
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