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post #3541 of 4688
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Originally Posted by 3db View Post

Any ides as to why I cannot get the player to see my windows shares based on the steps I've taken in post 3527

Make sure the WDTV`s workgroup name is the same as your PC workgroup name. That at least was my problem when I tried to access shares when I set up my WDTV. The WDTV can only see one workgroup.
post #3542 of 4688
I turned off Windows Firewall and was able to get connected. I then renabled the firewal and things worked fine after that. There was also a lot of playing of with accounts such as adding anonymous, Administrator and Owner to the shares of the files. I still feel like thats too many accounts that are required. I wil experiment these next few days and try to disable the number of accounts in teh folder shares. Unix, (solaris and Linux) is by far a better operating system with less quirks than Windows crap.
post #3543 of 4688
Have you tried just sharing the folders with "Everybody"? That should be enough. Any change I made on my pc I had to power-cycle the wdtv for it to reflect that change.
post #3544 of 4688
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Originally Posted by johnBlanker View Post

Have you tried just sharing the folders with "Everybody"? That should be enough. Any change I made on my pc I had to power-cycle the wdtv for it to reflect that change.

I tried that at first (which included Guest but anonymous did not exist) but no dice.
post #3545 of 4688
Does this sound like that 24fps bug that plagued the Onkyo receivers? I don't have an Onkyo receiver btw. I was playing a BDMV rip (bdmv folder)
on my HTPC downstairs (using powerdvd13). The rip was located on my pc upstairs. At first I thought it was my network bandwidth. (I have to check the speed of my network ) It seems to drop a frame every 5 or 10 seconds. It was like a skip but there was no audio drop or anything. It was like a single frame was removed.

I did get a new video card. Perhaps that's the culprit?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129189

I appologize for this thread not being related to WDTV. You guys are just so good. Gonna come here for everything. tongue.gif
post #3546 of 4688
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Originally Posted by 3db View Post

Any ides as to why I cannot get the player to see my windows shares based on the steps I've taken in post 3527

Try Fixed IPs on WD-SMP and why not Server also (it's not like it's going anywhere).

 

On Windows shares, while Owner permissions can be ReadWrite, also set Everyone to at least Read.

 

And the basics ... WorkGroup names match, not In or even using HomeGroup, Network Discovery and File Sharing On. It's just Peer Networking but works for me.

post #3547 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Try Fixed IPs on WD-SMP and why not Server also (it's not like it's going anywhere).

On Windows shares, while Owner permissions can be ReadWrite, also set Everyone to at least Read.

And the basics ... WorkGroup names match, not In or even using HomeGroup, Network Discovery and File Sharing On. It's just Peer Networking but works for me.

I have it working. I really think it was the Window's firewall blocing the WD from seeing the shares. I turn it off, let the WD get the shares and then turn the Windows firewall back on again.
post #3548 of 4688
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Originally Posted by 3db View Post


I have it working. I really think it was the Window's firewall blocing the WD from seeing the shares. I turn it off, let the WD get the shares and then turn the Windows firewall back on again.

Sounds like a Windows mis-config problem, but if that work-around works for you, go with it.

 

If machines are on safe-side of NAT router (with SPI firewall) you might be ok to just leave the software firewall off. Depends on machines role.

post #3549 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Sounds like a Windows mis-config problem, but if that work-around works for you, go with it.

If machines are on safe-side of NAT router (with SPI firewall) you might be ok to just leave the software firewall off. Depends on machines role.

I'm trying to figure which port the WD SMP uses. If I know this, I could confgure the firewall to pass information through the port without going through the work around.
post #3550 of 4688
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Originally Posted by 3db View Post


I'm trying to figure which port the WD SMP uses. If I know this, I could confgure the firewall to pass information through the port without going through the work around.

It's "Windows File and Printer Sharing". There are a bunch of ports and/or parts (see them in Advanced).

 

Try this ... Turn Windows Firewall OFF and reboot. Then, turn it back on and Windows should re-config it's own Windows (software) Firewall to allow proper operation.

 

AFAIK, WD-SMP doesn't use any special ports. Pretty sure SMP runs on custom Linux OS and therfore SMB Shares (to Windows).

post #3551 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

It's "Windows File and Printer Sharing". There are a bunch of ports and/or parts (see them in Advanced).

Try this ... Turn Windows Firewall OFF and reboot. Then, turn it back on and Windows should re-config it's own Windows (software) Firewall to allow proper operation.

AFAIK, WD-SMP doesn't use any special ports. Pretty sure SMP runs on custom Linux OS and therfore SMB Shares (to Windows).

I turned print sharing off because I didn't make the connection why printers need to be shared to a media player. I will add printer sharing and reboot to see if that allows the WD to see the shares. Keep in mind that I could see and naviagte into these shares from my daughters PC with just sharing the files without having to jump through all of these settings. I find it odd but it is what it is.
post #3552 of 4688
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Originally Posted by 3db View Post


I turned print sharing off because I didn't make the connection why printers need to be shared to a media player. I will add printer sharing and reboot to see if that allows the WD to see the shares. Keep in mind that I could see and naviagte into these shares from my daughters PC with just sharing the files without having to jump through all of these settings. I find it odd but it is what it is.

Your problem is clearer. On Windows-7, File and Printer Sharing is grouped together. You turn it on (both).

 

As long as no Printers (on the peer "Server") are actually shared, there is nothing to connect to. Also, on the clients ... as long as connection to Network Printer isn't setup (no way to do that on SMP anyway) there is no issue anyway.

 

As far as other Win-7 client working differently, well, that Windows ... SMP is different OS.

post #3553 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Your problem is clearer. On Windows-7, File and Printer Sharing is grouped together. You turn it on (both).

As long as no Printers (on the peer "Server") are actually shared, there is nothing to connect to. Also, on the clients ... as long as connection to Network Printer isn't setup (no way to do that on SMP anyway) there is no issue anyway.

As far as other Win-7 client working differently, well, that Windows ... SMP is different OS.

Windows Vista seperates the file sharing and printers sharing. I turned on printers sharing, rebooted the PC,left the firewall on and voila, it worked. rolleyes.gif Dam Windows crap.. no logic behind their stuff at all.
post #3554 of 4688
Windows 98 has the easiest networking in the world. It was so easy to turn on and share. I guess it was not so secure.
post #3555 of 4688
Hi all,

Sorry to go off-topic, but is there a forum here for video editing software? All I can find are some dormant threads in areas like "camcorders". I've been recording and editing TV on Funai DVDR's for years, but I'm getting more and more content lately with PlayLater. All I want to do is cut the commercial breaks from MP4's (and possibly MKV's if that proves easier than it is now on the Funais).

I know some SMP users here (Kelson maybe?) have recommended Video Redo - is that still the one to beat? I've heard Pinnacle recommended too, and Corel Video Studio looks like a possibility for under $50. Easy cuts and fast saves are the only features I care about...

Thanks for any help getting to the right place to get advice on this,

CC
post #3556 of 4688
hmmmm. I think you can edit things out with Format Factory, which is free. Windows live movie maker, but I think that will only export to mp4. I use Pinnacle studio 15. It's the second Avid studio edition. Renamed to Pinnacle after Corel purchased Avid Studio. Might be more $ and features for what you want though. My pick for features/functionality/price/learning curve.
post #3557 of 4688
Thanks - I've tried Movie maker - IIRC it was clunky to use and very slow saving. Did I see somewhere that Pinnacle has some ability to auto-detect commercials? They also sell tuners, right? - so TV is sort of their specialty?

CC
post #3558 of 4688
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

I know some SMP users here (Kelson maybe?) have recommended Video Redo - is that still the one to beat?
I've never had any reason to look elsewhere than Video ReDo. The only thing it doesn't do is simple BD authoring (non-java) and they have said they are looking into it for a future update. It handles all the formats you want and the commercial detection module works really well. The editing operations for moving around the video are great and customizable and it is fast. You get frame level editing with local recoding. It is multi-threaded for multi-core processors.

It comes in a couple versions. The most expensive one is the H.264 version which I have. DVD recorder stuff is all MPEG-2 so you can get away with the middle version for $60. I like the H.264 version because I can recode the HDTV recordings to reduce the size by ~30% without any PQ loss and save a little space on my servers. It can save in multiple containers including .mpg, MKV, .m2ts etc. and they all play on the WD Live without issue.

I don't know anything about the other programs, but Video ReDo always seems to be the preferred program for people who edit HDTV recordings or DVDR recordings.
post #3559 of 4688
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

Thanks - I've tried Movie maker - IIRC it was clunky to use and very slow saving. Did I see somewhere that Pinnacle has some ability to auto-detect commercials? They also sell tuners, right? - so TV is sort of their specialty?

CC
No, I would not say tv is their specialty. They sell capture devices, primarily to record from devices with composite connections (vcr, old camcorders, etc). They are most known for entry-level Non-linear Editing, with the exception of PS16 and the new 17. These are generally prosumer NLE's. the next step up from these would be Vegas, Premier, FCP.

It sounds like Kelsen is your man for recommendations on this one.
post #3560 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I've never had any reason to look elsewhere than Video ReDo. The only thing it doesn't do is simple BD authoring (non-java) and they have said they are looking into it for a future update. It handles all the formats you want and the commercial detection module works really well. The editing operations for moving around the video are great and customizable and it is fast. You get frame level editing with local recoding. It is multi-threaded for multi-core processors.

It comes in a couple versions. The most expensive one is the H.264 version which I have. DVD recorder stuff is all MPEG-2 so you can get away with the middle version for $60. I like the H.264 version because I can recode the HDTV recordings to reduce the size by ~30% without any PQ loss and save a little space on my servers. It can save in multiple containers including .mpg, MKV, .m2ts etc. and they all play on the WD Live without issue.

I don't know anything about the other programs, but Video ReDo always seems to be the preferred program for people who edit HDTV recordings or DVDR recordings.

Kelson - thanks - here are the features in the 3 versions:

Plus:
Fast Frame Accurate MPEG Editing
Automatic Commercial Detection
Auto Repair Audio/Video Sync
Transport Stream Mux/Demuxing

TVsuite
Authors and Burns DVD's
Import Videos Directly From DVD's

H264:
H.264
Edit H.264/AVCHD files
Read and write Windows 7 WTV files
Create videos for iPhone/iPad/iPod/Zune
Crop, resize and change formats

Why would I need the TVsuite rather than Plus? Just to skip the MakeMKV rip of an unedited recording before editing? I don't foresee ever burning a video DVD, although I occasionally copy MKV files to one just for backup. I'm skeptical that any software will offer quicker editing than the Funai recorders, especially when you factor in dubbing only 2 unedited recordings to a DVDRW vs. 3 edited recordings (that's for 1 hour shows in SP quality).

CC
post #3561 of 4688
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post


Why would I need the TVsuite rather than Plus? Just to skip the MakeMKV rip of an unedited recording before editing?
You need TV Suite if you are working on recordings from the funai. They have to be dubbed to disk to get them to a PC. They will be in DVD-Video format so you need TV Suite to be able to read the DVD Video format and import the selected title for editing. You may not want to burn a DVD but you may want to author a bunch of episodes together into a DVD.iso which can then be played on the WD Live with the menus you create.
post #3562 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

You need TV Suite if you are working on recordings from the funai. They have to be dubbed to disk to get them to a PC. They will be in DVD-Video format so you need TV Suite to be able to read the DVD Video format and import the selected title for editing. You may not want to burn a DVD but you may want to author a bunch of episodes together into a DVD.iso which can then be played on the WD Live with the menus you create.

I see, but if I continue to edit on the funais, I would also continue to rip with MakeMKV. Unless I'm missing something I doubt any editing software could make that process any easier than it is now? So most likely Video Redo would only be used on MP4 files recorded with PlayLater. Although I suppose in the future I might also record OTA with WMC, and presumably would need the TV Suite to edit those recordings... or maybe even the H264 since OTA is often HD these days?

CC
post #3563 of 4688

I just picked up a WD TV Live SMP the other day, I've been looking for the perfect streaming solution and I think this might be it. I was never able to find a way to stream movies from my PC to TV. I've tried streaming using my PS3 but the thing would stutter constantly. Apple TV can't handle MKV files. 

 

Anyways, I was just curious about something. When I click on button "Select Content Source" , it gives me four options; "Media Server", "Network Share, "Local Storage" and "Online Services". Could someone explain what each one is and how it works? I'm also confused on how to properly set up my PC to stream videos. I have a folder where all my videos go automatically after downloading is finished. I'm concerned about security too, can other people gain access to my WiFi, computer, etc are there any security issues?

 

Last, does the SMP box have any other features besides streaming from PC and channels like Hulu that I don't know about? I wish there was a way to hack it.

 

Thanks for the help!

post #3564 of 4688
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Originally Posted by mostdope View Post

I just picked up a WD TV Live SMP the other day, I've been looking for the perfect streaming solution and I think this might be it. I was never able to find a way to stream movies from my PC to TV. I've tried streaming using my PS3 but the thing would stutter constantly. Apple TV can't handle MKV files. 

Anyways, I was just curious about something. When I click on button "Select Content Source" , it gives me four options; "Media Server", "Network Share, "Local Storage" and "Online Services". Could someone explain what each one is and how it works? I'm also confused on how to properly set up my PC to stream videos. I have a folder where all my videos go automatically after downloading is finished. I'm concerned about security too, can other people gain access to my WiFi, computer, etc are there any security issues?

Last, does the SMP box have any other features besides streaming from PC and channels like Hulu that I don't know about? I wish there was a way to hack it.

Thanks for the help!

Sounds like you need to read the user manual? http://www.wdc.com/WDProducts/Library/UM/ENG/4779-705035.pdf

Just curious - what exactly would you be trying to accomplish by hacking it?

CC
post #3565 of 4688
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Originally Posted by mostdope View Post

I just picked up a WD TV Live SMP the other day, I've been looking for the perfect streaming solution and I think this might be it. I was never able to find a way to stream movies from my PC to TV. I've tried streaming using my PS3 but the thing would stutter constantly. Apple TV can't handle MKV files. 

Anyways, I was just curious about something. When I click on button "Select Content Source" , it gives me four options; "Media Server", "Network Share, "Local Storage" and "Online Services". Could someone explain what each one is and how it works? I'm also confused on how to properly set up my PC to stream videos. I have a folder where all my videos go automatically after downloading is finished. I'm concerned about security too, can other people gain access to my WiFi, computer, etc are there any security issues?

Last, does the SMP box have any other features besides streaming from PC and channels like Hulu that I don't know about? I wish there was a way to hack it.

Thanks for the help!

My take:

Media server : you can set up a media server for all your media files, if you have done that, then this is how you will access your media files.
Network Share is exactly that. a network share on your computer (or other places) that you have given file share permissions to such as the folder you keep your videos in
Local storage is a usb drive that you have plugged into your WDTV
Online services.. Hula..youtube ect.

Hope this helps.

I have a network drive that I keep all my files on that I access through network shares.
post #3566 of 4688
Media server = DLNA server on your network.
post #3567 of 4688
I tried to set the video output to 480p but it keeps reverting to AUTO. I can set the output to 720p or 1080p but not to 480p.

I want to send Netflix streaming 480p SD movies to my outboard scaler for conversion to 1080p, but with AUTO the WD sends out 1080p. I was hoping AUTO was "native resolution," ie, it would send out what was sent in by the source but it looks like it always sends out 1080p. I don't mind manually setting the WD to 480p, but even that does not work.

Anyone know how to set the output to 480p?
post #3568 of 4688
I asked this before but I can't find the thread for the life of me.

Using dvdfab, Is there any way to tell if it is going to rip the .m2ts into 1 file or multiple (seamless branching) before I rip it?
post #3569 of 4688
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Originally Posted by johnBlanker View Post

I asked this before but I can't find the thread for the life of me.

Using dvdfab, Is there any way to tell if it is going to rip the .m2ts into 1 file or multiple (seamless branching) before I rip it?
If you use the BluRay copy module it will not join the segments.
If you use the BluRay ripper module it will join the segments into a single .m2ts.
post #3570 of 4688
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

If you use the BluRay copy module it will not join the segments.
If you use the BluRay ripper module it will join the segments into a single .m2ts.

Sorry, let me rephrase. How can I tell if a disc has seamless branching before I rip it?
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