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post #421 of 4688
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Originally Posted by phie View Post

I see, thanks. And why not just purchase a bluray player that has DLNA support? Couldn't the bluray player take the media from my NAS via ethernet and play it on my TV?

DLNA is very limited in the types of files it supports and unless you are talking Oppo BDP-93, most BluRay players are lousy media streamers. All depends on what you want to do. I don't even own a BluRay player. All my BD's are ripped to my NAS and played by the Live+ & Live-S.
post #422 of 4688
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Originally Posted by phie View Post

I see, thanks. And why not just purchase a bluray player that has DLNA support? Couldn't the bluray player take the media from my NAS via ethernet and play it on my TV?

Honestly, I have asked the same question myself.
I currently have an LG blu-ray player that has dlna and works just fine for the most part.
However, there are some codecs that it just won't play and the interface leaves a lot to be desired.
It's very hard to find a blu-ray player with dlna that will play most file types.
post #423 of 4688
I wish the would make these devices to handle sharing like the following -

I have my share setup as the following -
Share\\Photos
Share\\Videos
Share\\Music\\Flac

Why with these devices can't they have it setup so you can do the following:

Photos = Share\\Photos
Video = Share\\movies
Music = Share\\Music
post #424 of 4688
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

Please tell us how you let on. I know my Linksys E3000 was the source of COUNTLESS problems until I changed its workgroup to something else so that it wouldn't interfere with other devices in my "real" workgroup.

So far this seems to have fixed the problems although I did the opposite: I changed my Netgear router to be on the same Workgroup as my PCs and the WD Live.
post #425 of 4688
Is there really no way to control the analog output volume (I checked the Harmony database and didn't see any "hidden" codes)? I guess the idea is to hook it up to a TV and use the TV volume but it still seems a little crazy to me especially since there is a 'Mute' on the remote. I have cheap 't-amps' and external speakers in a few locations and having to manually adjust the volume knob on the amps is a pain.
post #426 of 4688
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

So far this seems to have fixed the problems although I did the opposite: I changed my Netgear router to be on the same Workgroup as my PCs and the WD Live.

Excellent! Sounds like NetGear does it "right" and Cisco does it "wrong."

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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Is there really no way to control the analog output volume?

That's correct... And not just analog, digital volume too...

You're right; they make the assumption that the user is connecting it to an outboard device that's controllable. And I'm guessing that's a good assumption in 98% or more cases..
post #427 of 4688
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post


You're right; they make the assumption that the user is connecting it to an outboard device that's controllable. And I'm guessing that's a good assumption in 98% or more cases..

There is a way, but not using a universal remote for network shares. If you are using a DLNA remote app on a smartphone and streaming music or video via media servers, the remote app will let you control the volume gain.

I run PlugPlayer on my iPhone to control my WDTV Live+, predominately for music and sideshows for this method, and there is a fully functional gain control. I can indeed use media servers for movies in this capacity, but I loose my folder.jpg cover art. So for movies I use the network shares with Harmony 890 and external audio receiver.
post #428 of 4688
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

So far this seems to have fixed the problems although I did the opposite: I changed my Netgear router to be on the same Workgroup as my PCs and the WD Live.

Well, it didn't last. The same Samba issues have resurfaced. It's a shame since this device seems solid otherwise...
post #429 of 4688
I received my WD TV (old model) yesterday but cannot connect to my network share. The files are located on my desktop PC in one folder.
I type in the PC name and the password, but still no luck.
I was on the phone with WD for half an hour (they even did a remote login to my computer), but still nothing.
I see mention of the Linksys E3000 on here and potential problems.
I have this same router.
Is there a setting I need to change on the router to get this working?
post #430 of 4688
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Originally Posted by RVD26 View Post

I received my WD TV (old model) yesterday but cannot connect to my network share. The files are located on my desktop PC in one folder.
I type in the PC name and the password, but still no luck.
I was on the phone with WD for half an hour (they even did a remote login to my computer), but still nothing.
I see mention of the Linksys E3000 on here and potential problems.
I have this same router.
Is there a setting I need to change on the router to get this working?

Not sure about your specific issue, there are permissions with Win 7/2008 that could be your problem but this is specifically a thread about the new WD Live SMP.
post #431 of 4688
I have posted this to WDTVForum with no answers yet. I just want to know if the brand new WDTV unit I just bought will need the firmware downgraded then upgraded(flashed/hacked) to the firmware they suggest in order to get the moviesheets working? I bought this unit to replace my HTPC so I just want to figure this part out. Here is what I posted on WDTVForums just fyi, anyone who can offer comments:

theruckman wrote:
Forgive me if this was covered but just so many forums....I have a NEW WDTV unit, firmware 1.03.10 (latest)....can I just download the latest WDLXTV firmware to do all this cool stuff, copy to USB, reboot...etc... and all is good OR do I need to downgrade to earlier firmware first to install the WDLXTV firmware? Hoping I am understanding that the latest units are able to do this and not just the older previous models?
post #432 of 4688
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Originally Posted by theruckman View Post

I have posted this to WDTVForum with no answers yet. I just want to know if the brand new WDTV unit I just bought will need the firmware downgraded then upgraded(flashed/hacked) to the firmware they suggest in order to get the moviesheets working? I bought this unit to replace my HTPC so I just want to figure this part out. Here is what I posted on WDTVForums just fyi, anyone who can offer comments:

theruckman wrote:
Forgive me if this was covered but just so many forums....I have a NEW WDTV unit, firmware 1.03.10 (latest)....can I just download the latest WDLXTV firmware to do all this cool stuff, copy to USB, reboot...etc... and all is good OR do I need to downgrade to earlier firmware first to install the WDLXTV firmware? Hoping I am understanding that the latest units are able to do this and not just the older previous models?

I'm pretty sure that WDLXTV isn't for the model covered in this topic, the SMP. I believe the WDLXTV only applies to the original Live and Live+ but may be wrong.
post #433 of 4688
Has anyone successfully use this Sans Digital TR4UTBPN RAID enclosure with the WD Live digital media player?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo
post #434 of 4688
Can someone take a photo, how it look like subtitles in new wd tv live ?

I was looking at other sites, but nothing found.
post #435 of 4688
Hello Everyone!
First of all, sorry for my poor english.
Currently I own an Xtreamer Sidewinder, and I would like to change it with this new WD product.
For this reason I'd like to know if it has problems reading 24p or 23.796fps movies (1 stutter every 42 seconds). Sidewinder has this problem...
Thank you in advance.
post #436 of 4688
Just watched 1080/24p rips of Ben-Hur and Dr. Zhivago on my WD TV with no problems.
post #437 of 4688
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Originally Posted by DecLinE View Post

I'd like to know if it has problems reading 24p or 23.796fps movies (1 stutter every 42 seconds)

I have watched approx 10 movies on this - all blu-ray , uncompressed rips. No problems with 23.976 FPS, which most blu-rays are. I watched an Australian movie (Oranges & Sunshine) & that movie was actually 24FPS (as some movies are). The auto setting (match frame rate) selected 24P (which is really 23.976 in the WD player) hence YES, there was the stutter every 42 seconds. I overode the auto setting & went to 60P & it stopped the big stutter every 42 second, but the "feel" of the overall movie was not as smooth (but not too bad). Sadly, the old Live player on older firmware (& the old HD player) have a 24P & seperate 23.976 setting.

This above is not a big issue to me though as 99% are actually 23.976 so all good.
post #438 of 4688
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Originally Posted by klutch View Post

I'm pretty sure that WDLXTV isn't for the model covered in this topic, the SMP. I believe the WDLXTV only applies to the original Live and Live+ but may be wrong.

@ Klutch -well I think u are right for sure and hoping just like everything else it will just take a short time for someone to hack into the firmware and make custom changes to it. Can the firmware be that different. Hope not...
post #439 of 4688
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Originally Posted by WayneJJ View Post

I have watched approx 10 movies on this - all blu-ray , uncompressed rips. No problems with 23.976 FPS, which most blu-rays are. I watched an Australian movie (Oranges & Sunshine) & that movie was actually 24FPS (as some movies are). The auto setting (match frame rate) selected 24P (which is really 23.976 in the WD player) hence YES, there was the stutter every 42 seconds. I overode the auto setting & went to 60P & it stopped the big stutter every 42 second, but the "feel" of the overall movie was not as smooth (but not too bad). Sadly, the old Live player on older firmware (& the old HD player) have a 24P & seperate 23.976 setting.

This above is not a big issue to me though as 99% are actually 23.976 so all good.

Thank you very much for your answer...Now I can buy it without doubts, since 100% of my 576p and 720p movies are 23.796fps and 25fps.
post #440 of 4688
I recently returned a WDTV Live back to the store and replaced it with this new model because of an issue highlighted in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtRs3T1Dew

The colour luminance shifts out of spec when the WD's input is switched and then back again. I was very disappointed to see this problem in the new box considering its a brand new Sigma designs chipset. The only way to correct it again is to go back into the settings menu, change colour space to something else and then back again to your desired colour space.

Just to be clear, this doesn't happen on every display (which makes me believe its HDMI handshaking/EDID related. And this is not a case of the colour space switching to a different one (say RGB High switching to RGB Low), this results in out of range garbage that has no relation to any standard and it happens with every single mode from Auto down to YCbPr.
post #441 of 4688
There is no issue, your just trying to find something that doesn't exist.
post #442 of 4688
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Originally Posted by tc17 View Post

There is no issue, your just trying to find something that doesn't exist.

Are you a shill or just trolling?

I've demonstrated proof of the problem right there in video form.

You are welcome to show me the error of my ways, but please remember, these are the AVSCIENCE forums. Try and keep that in mind when making counterclaims. Otherwise you just make yourself look like a company tool with a low post count...
post #443 of 4688
is the wdtv live streamer better picture quailty overall than wdtv plus? how about playing files or subtitles?
post #444 of 4688
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Originally Posted by fahrenheit View Post

....this doesn't happen on every display (which makes me believe its HDMI handshaking/EDID related....

Wouldn't be the first, won't be the last... While there's plenty of documentation as to how EDID data should be FORMATED, there's a remarkable dearth of documentation on how EDID data should be INTERPRETED.

Different boxes will have different results with different HDMI sinks.

My LG TV tells the world that its native resolution is 720p in the extended EDID data, while the primary EDID data says its native is 1080p. VESA doesn't comment too much on how the EXTENDED data should be marked, and the WDs prefer the extended data over the primary.

Who is wrong? Only VESA knows, and they have no comment.
post #445 of 4688
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

Wouldn't be the first, won't be the last... While there's plenty of documentation as to how EDID data should be FORMATED, there's a remarkable dearth of documentation on how EDID data should be INTERPRETED.

I could understand if this was one colourspace standard changing to another standard, but the result is an abomination. I'm fairly confident that nowhere in my TV's EDID list is an entry for 'Garbled Luminance = Yes'.

Its as if the box and the TV are having a conversation, then suddenly one of them has a stroke.
post #446 of 4688
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Originally Posted by DecLinE View Post

Thank you very much for your answer...Now I can buy it without doubts, since 100% of my 576p and 720p movies are 23.796fps and 25fps.

As far as i believe, the player only playes at 23.976 via 1080P, so if "auto / match frame rate" did not select this you would need to manually select 1080P / 23.976. Even though your shows are 576P & 720P that is fine. Maybe upscales a little, but it is the 23.976 you need. Hence important your TV is good for 1080P..... If not you would need to rest on 60HZ. Naturaly your 25FPS are best viewed on 50HZ.
post #447 of 4688
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Originally Posted by fahrenheit View Post

I could understand if this was one colourspace standard changing to another standard, but the result is an abomination. I'm fairly confident that nowhere in my TV's EDID list is an entry for 'Garbled Luminance = Yes'.

Its as if the box and the TV are having a conversation, then suddenly one of them has a stroke.

There are other problems.
Download the alternating color description and alternating video flag test files:
http://www.cypheros.de/dvb_e.html

Quite a few media players fail these tests by not switching from Rec 604 to Rec 709.
http://72.9.159.100/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1208518

These test files are on my WHS to permit testing any media player. If the player fails return it and look elsewhere.
It is really disconcerting to have a perfectly calibrated display as I have only to have a media player screw with the colorspace.
post #448 of 4688
Well I have alluded to this but never have got a great answer, so I thought I would attach a pic. While I look forward to a better moviesheet experience in the future, I am not very unhappy with the setup right now -BUT just wish I could get ALL the thumbs to show up. Under "Videos" all my movies show up, I can search for info and SOMETIMES I get the thumb for it but not always. Note the pic I am attaching, all the videos I converted to ISO show up, I have a few DIVX that the thumb showed up fine. I even have a COUPLE of VIDEO_TS folders that show the thumb but the vast majority of my VIDEO_TS folders (I have accumulated over the last couple years) do not show the thumb, just the main info (note pic). I just would like the page in my pic to show ALL the thumbs. Comments please -thx!
LL
post #449 of 4688
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Originally Posted by techflaws View Post

Unfortunately not. I've seen it on some files that are encoded to x.264 and 720p. Haven't yet ruled out the TV though.

Hi guys, my first post here. I will join your debate if you don't mind. I have WD TV Live (2nd gen) and I have been experiencing the problem with mkv stuttering for some time. Essentially, all new x264 720p hdtv rips stutter on all firmwares supporting Match source framerate option (I think from 1.04.22). It is the most obvious in scenes where there is panning of big areas, on such scenes it stutters every 2-3seconds. If it will help you, I can post Media info for files I know that stutter. And, one more thing - it happens always exactly in the same places. I can play the 15s part where I know it would stutter and it always happens. And the files are definitely ok, I have also Xtreamer SW and they play just fine.
post #450 of 4688
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

Quite a few media players fail these tests by not switching from Rec 604 to Rec 709.
http://72.9.159.100/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1208518

In that very URL, posters say that the WDTV *does* handle that. Am I misread it?

And the WD board say it was fixed after February (that'd be 1.02.21 for the Live, and the initial release of the Live+, Hub, and SMP, unless it regressed...)

http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-Li...ial/idi-p/8665
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