*Official* WD TV Live Streaming Media Player Thread - Page 34

i read that too, but thankfully i've got a network outlet in the same room on the same circuit if i run into an issue with the preferred location.

I have my PS3 and SMP hooked up that way and most of the time it works fine. I do have intermittent problems with higher bitrate files, probably do to noise in my AC line.

I am able to play everything I've thrown at the SMP without a hiccup, including 1080P .mkv OVER NETWORK SHARES. The samba issue is definitely a wifi bug.

Belkin Powerline AV500 solved my problem. Picked it up on sale at BB, plugged it in, plugged in the 2nd adapter in my wiring closet and ka-pow. It's playing everything I throw at it over shares and is much snappier. I'm a happy camper now. May pick one up for the kids now or even add another to my home theater setup (next to my ATV2). Now I can dig in and start enjoying this little bugger. Cheers!

Cool billymac, pleased to hear it!

Regards,

Lt. Dang

this little thing is quite a delight for the price.

Is there a way to do the opposite, to choose the live Hub and just change the command to turn it off and still have all the remote functions instead than choose the old TV Live and teach the harmony all the other commands?

Does anyone knows when the TV live Streamer, should be added with full support to the Harmony DB?

It's an older router set to 802.11g+b and the laptop connects with b, 11 Mbit/s. It took less than 7 or so seconds for the sound to drop.


Killfilters exist. Worked for me


I appreciate the info but in this case it seems to be irrelevant. The very same streams put into an MKV container play back just fine over the same (totally wireless) network so it must be some weird bug of the LIVE rather than a misconfiguration of the network.

Most likely true.

There's already a bug some dude analyzed and specifically related the MKV where the box is demanding WAY too much bandwidth. Like 10x what it should.

If the same thing is happening to some AVIs, then it's going to be ALL about bandwidth. And when it comes to WiFi, configuration is everything.

What's interesting is ya'll saying the AVI remuxed into an MKV works OK. Given the bug that affects MKV, it'd be REALLY interesting to see how much worse it is for AVI (if, in fact, the issue is the same thing.)

Which could very well explain why some people see the issue and some don't.

And as I explained earlier, if you have TWO devices using WiFi involved in the stream, that cuts your available bandwidth in half .. or more.

For example, if you're streaming an 10 megabit per second stream from a device that is 802.11b, and the other end is 802.11n, it doesn't matter, because the B device is consuming 90% of the available channel, PLUS OVERHEAD, leaving less than 1% of the channel open to the 802.11n client, or no more than 5 megabits per second... in a PERFECT world. Thus, it's impossible to fit the stream down the pipe.

You take that 802.11b server off the network, and now the WD has a MUCH larger percentage access to the full channel (MUCH more than HALF.)

In reality, the WiFi AP won't even let the B device have that much of the channel due to the fairness algorithms... So it's just flat not going to play.

But in my case, both the client and the server are 802.11n, running at average 110 megabits per second, thus I would expect NOT to have the issue.

People still use 802.11b?

Apparently Techflaws does..

But the same analogy applies to g/n mixed mode. Just not as severe.

I am not sure that I would conclude that based on your recent postings. How far away is the SMP from the router? Also, how many walls are there between them? Is your SMP located in an open space or inside a cabinet or shelves?

He's on a wired connection now.

WHat MS can I use to stream dvd iso's, and BD mkv?

Yes, sorry. It was WDFan1970 who responded and indicated he was using managed GigE switches.

but my wires are hidden. I guess I should just turn off the 5ghz channel on the router and only run the 2.4ghz channel since it's the only channel recognized by my cell phone, game system, etc...

I am using every gigabit outlet on the router (Netgear N900). I hope it can stand up to that.

I tried just about everything to resolve the wifi issues with network shares. Keep in mind though, I never had any trouble streaming even the highest resolutions over wifi using a media server. In fact, using a media server, I never tried any video file that it wouldn't play. The max bit rate setting seemed to have a huge impact on network shares via wifi. I guess it's just a bug that will eventually be ironed out.

Now I'm wanting a more up-to-date Denon amp. The refurbs at Accessories4Less are calling my name. I only have one gigabit cable, the one attached to my WDTV, in that area of the room? Would it be okay to install a little four port gigabit switch there for future projects such as a wired Denon network receiver? I would be going from the modem>router>switch like a couple of folks suggested earlier.

i did anonymous and no password,the wdtv unit tells me login error.

Yes, that it how you create more ports when you have only one wire ... but running more wires is usually better. Depends on the bandwdth useage of all the devices. For example, if you only had a SMP there, and you want to add just the Denon (for firmware updates and maybe a little music streaming) ... then one wire with the switch at the end is likely just fine.

It might need a password filled-in (any password).

What version of Windows are you running on the machine where your Shared Folders are located?

If XP, use Simple Sharing and all users have the same permissions (individual users are not defined).

If Vista or Win-7 ... add user group "Everyone" to the list on that share.

ok i did "Turning on and turning off Simple File Sharing" and "Level 5: Shared on the network (Read and Write)" from that link i provided.i have windows xp pro sp3.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040#turnonfile

Yep ... so, it's working now?

thanks for the help.i havent tried it yet on the wdtv smp.a bit tired now.i will try tomorrow morning.

I can change the audio output from "optical pass-thru" to "stereo", and the sound works. These are the only video sources I've noticed that seem affected.

I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong. But I cannot get the WDTV SMP to play 5.1 audio for anything on Netflix.

Episode 1 of The Office, for instance. If I use my PS3, the audio is 5.1 and the voices come out of my center speaker. If I immediately switch over to my WDTV and play the exact same episode, it comes out in 2 channel stereo. I've reset my settings, tried it with three different versions of the firmware now.

Anybody can give me some pointers to figure this out?

EDIT: I guess I didn't try enough titles... Memento is playing in 5.1 here. I guess the Netflix app on the WDTV was just choosing a lower quality audio due to bandwidth analysis or something.

No problem. These threads get really huge.


Well, actually I'm not. I'm wired from basement to two floors. When the beta test started, I initially tried out WIFI but it sucked with my router being in the basement so I focused on all the other bugs in the firmware, like subtitle issues.

I only tried this again (this time with an old borrowed laptop in the basement) cause I found the AVI sound bug to be completely illogical. Why would it happen with an AVI but not an MKV with much higher bitrate, and why would it work over media servers (which don't work for me at all) but not over shares? It has to be a bug in the firmware.

I'm still on 100mbit cause it's enough for streaming HD content and AVM usually updates their Fritzboxes with new firmwares years after their initial release, which is one of the reasons why they are so wildly popular in Germany. If I'd ever need Gigabit I'll put a switch in front of it since I won't be getting 50 mbit downstream anytime soon so no need for a new VDSL router.

Did you use the pass through mode for the 5.1 audio? How is your sound system connected to the SMP?

Yeah, tonight after I reset settings to default I went in and set it to use passthrough to HDMI and made sure not to change anything else. The Office still played in stereo. The SMP is connected to my Onkyo via HDMI.

It's been a couple weeks since I mucked with it so I don't remember what other titles I tried beyond The Office, but the couple I did try wouldn't play 5.1 either. So I left it alone until now. But on a whim I decided to watch Memento tonight, and lo and behold, it played in 5.1. So all I can figure is the SMP Netflix app was just not pulling down the 5.1 audio stream on some stuff when the PS3 Netflix app would.

The fact that I can't figure out how to rip my blurays so their audio works had me convinced something was wrong and I didn't test extensively enough I guess. I need to do some further testing on that end now and get it all figured out. Ripping just takes a long time so this has been frustrating to work through.

slider,

i had the same issue. while on netflix if the streamed film doesn't indicate "HD-5.1" the only audio that works is strero. it's a pain to keep switching audio formats but it's the only to get sound. but the opposite if the film has 5.1 audio. then the optical pass thru words.

FYI: I fired off an email to the Vudu folks and they said they're aware the app only outputs DD5.1 and is working with WD to fix the app to get it output DD+ properly.

I am probably one of the very few "newbies" to this group who has actually gone thru the entire thread reading all of your words of wisdom, Thank you all, I have learned alot, but yet there is alot I still do not comprehend. I am not new to computers, or ripping files, but it has been years in between since I have ripped anything. (family health issues)
I am getting back into it, and recently purchased some new equipment to set up and attempt to do what most of you obviously have been doing for yrs. Here is my equipment, old to new, and am trying to learn how to set it up, network it, and get it all configured while waiting for my new SMP to be delivered.

ISP ATT dsl (considering a change to TWC wideband, offered me a deal for 5 times my current speed for $10 a month) w/firewire dsl wireless modem......upgrading to a Netgear 600n DGND3700 dual channel adsl2 router (also cable and uverse ready) already purchased but not installed yet (did I read correctly a GigE switch after the router would take some of the load off the router itself?)

WD 1tb My Book Live NAS, WD My Passport Essential SE 1tb, usb drive(both never used yet)

And of course the SMP that is to be delivered next week.

While not new to computers, ripping, burning, playback on dvd players,etc.... I am new to networking in general. I just want a knowledgeable person (people) to guide me thru the networking of all these new toys I have purchased.

Have numerous Win 7 laptops/desktops running now and just accessing the internet when there is so much more they are capable of doing. Son and daughter are avid torrent collectors/creators and thought this would be a good way to centralize files so everyone could view them. Currently everything I have is virgin territory waiting to be set up.

Anyone willing to tutor an old man trying to fulfill a dream? (by this I mean I have been waiting yrs for a device to do what the SMP claims to do)

Bill