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post #421 of 905
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

That would be great, I also primarily use PCM for MCH so I can use my AVR's bass management and ARC, but many times switch to DSD for playing stereo SACDs or when using headphones.
I wonder if it's possible that there could already be discrete commands available to switch between DSD and PCM. I didn't see anything in the Harmony database, but sometimes there are remote commands that are hidden, or just unknown, that can be added. I found some discrete commands for an old Denon AVR years ago that I had Harmony add to their database that weren't part of the Denon remote. Someone had found these and published them on a website and they were easily added to the Harmony database.

I contacted Oppo awhile back and asked if there was a discrete code for the DSD/PCM setting. They replied that there is not as it is a setting that can only be accessed through the menu.

Bill
post #422 of 905
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I contacted Oppo awhile back and asked if there was a discrete code for the DSD/PCM setting. They replied that there is not as it is a setting that can only be accessed through the menu.
Bill

Well, I guess you were/are one step ahead of me. Hope Oppo takes your request to provide an easy switch between DSD and PCM seriously. I may drop them an e-mail also, wouldn't hurt to have more than one voice requesting it.
post #423 of 905
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Well, I guess you were/are one step ahead of me. Hope Oppo takes your request to provide an easy switch between DSD and PCM seriously. I may drop them an e-mail also, wouldn't hurt to have more than one voice requesting it.

Great idea smile.gif! The more that request this the better the chances it could happen.

Bill
post #424 of 905
I sent an email to Oppo at 6:48 and received a reply 15 minutes later. Although I shouldn't be I'm still amazed at the level of service that Oppo provides smile.gif.

Below is the response to my question about the DSD/PCM setting. Whether the engineers at Oppo can do this or not it is nice to know that Oppo listens very closely to their customers.

Bill,

We will forward your request to the engineers whom will take it into consideration when working on new software revisions for the BDP-9x series of players.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
post #425 of 905
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I sent an email to Oppo at 6:48 and received a reply 15 minutes later. Although I shouldn't be I'm still amazed at the level of service that Oppo provides smile.gif.
Below is the response to my question about the DSD/PCM setting. Whether the engineers at Oppo can do this or not it is nice to know that Oppo listens very closely to their customers.
Bill,
We will forward your request to the engineers whom will take it into consideration when working on new software revisions for the BDP-9x series of players.
Best Regards,
Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.


Cool SACD Collection!

I have about 200 as well mostly classical smile.gif
post #426 of 905
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Well, I guess you were/are one step ahead of me. Hope Oppo takes your request to provide an easy switch between DSD and PCM seriously. I may drop them an e-mail also, wouldn't hurt to have more than one voice requesting it.
Count me in........ e-mail sent. Great idea.smile.gif
post #427 of 905
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Cool SACD Collection!
I have about 200 as well mostly classical smile.gif

wse,

Thanks smile.gif! I have a few classical SACDs but I haven't really given them a good listen. Awhile back Barnes and Noble had a killer sale on Living Stereo SACDs. I grabbed a few and now wish I got all the ones they had available.

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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

Count me in........ e-mail sent. Great idea.smile.gif

Torqdog,

Excellent smile.gif! The more requests that Oppo receives for this feature the better the chances are that it might be added.

Bill
post #428 of 905
Things I want:

1) Support for ExFat (fat64) external volumes. It's the only format that Mac and Windows can both write to that supports >4GB files.
2) Hide ._ files in the file browser. Mac OS systems create these.
3) Better Netflix support
4) A decent fast forward on the audio player
5) 10 second skip
6) If the option to disable autoplay on a disk worked
7) SMB/CIFS support


Things that could be taken out
1) The analog audio board. I realize that keeping multiple SKUs is a pain, so it may make business sense to just keep the X3 model and not make an X0, X3 and X5. I think dual HDMI is the way to go for a decent majority of people.

Things I really don't want changed

1) Fanlessness - there is no way I would upgrade if the new model had an fan. That sounds trivial but I will go out of my way to avoid fan noise.
2) The case design - I think this is the best looking design that Oppo has ever produced
post #429 of 905
I'd still like to see more flexible handling of 6.1 DTS soundtracks - although I suppose this could be implemented in the 93 with as software revision. Specifically, the rear surround is not spread across both rear speakers - one is silent.
post #430 of 905
Won't the next Oppo player be a 4K machine?
post #431 of 905
You mean for all that 4K content that's floating around?

I doubt it.
post #432 of 905
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

You mean for all that 4K content that's floating around?
I doubt it.

Well, five years ago when we were waiting for Oppo to come out with its bluray player there wasn't a lot of 1080P content available. So, even though there isn't 4K material right now, the 4K displays are out and I am thinking that an Oppo 4K machine that could upconvert blurays to 4K would be nice, just like they did with DVDs going from 480i to 1080P.
post #433 of 905
What 4K displays?

Just asking as this is news to me.
post #434 of 905
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Originally Posted by kitchen_space View Post

Won't the next Oppo player be a 4K machine?

+1. By early next year we should have 4k TVs from Sharp, LG and Sony and no native 4k content to show on them. This seems like a prime opportunity for Oppo's next player.
post #435 of 905
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Originally Posted by ca1ore View Post

I'd still like to see more flexible handling of 6.1 DTS soundtracks - although I suppose this could be implemented in the 93 with as software revision. Specifically, the rear surround is not spread across both rear speakers - one is silent.
Interesting....... I get sound from both back speakers when playing a 6.1 DTS HDMA soundtrack. FWIW, for audio I'm utilizing the analog outputs on my 95.
post #436 of 905
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Originally Posted by jeffs2 View Post

+1. By early next year we should have 4k TVs from Sharp, LG and Sony and no native 4k content to show on them. This seems like a prime opportunity for Oppo's next player.

There are likely a couple things that would need to happen before this:

- A new HDMI standard that allows for 4K resolution at greater than 24p. The Sony 4K projector is limited to 24p on the 4K input thanks to the current HDMI standard/chipsets. Even once a new standard is announced, it usually takes a few months for chipsets using it to be shipping as well.
- A 4K content standard to exist. Right now the 4K/8K standard is still a draft and not finalized, and until that's done, how the format will even be encoded won't be certain, so nothing will come out using that yet.

Most of these 4K displays are going to have pretty nice scalers in them initially, due to the cost of the displays, and while a player that can do 4K might be really nice, there are still the obstacles I listed. If there is an updated HDMI standard this year, then I might expect more people to enter the market next year. As I see it now, 4K is mostly a gimmick (which Sony wanted to have a player to go with their projector, and the 790 is quite nice) but will start to be more realistic when these things happen.
post #437 of 905
Ummm, I thought there are 4K TVs that have been out for some time in Japan.

4K a gimmick? How can you say that? I thought Hollywood digitized film into 4K for digital storage as 4K was resolution beyond that which the human eye can discern. Then, the other day I read Hollywood was now digitizing in 8K for storage, so I am chaning my request for the next Oppo player - screw 4K, I want an 8K player.
post #438 of 905
I'm saying that 4K conversion of Blu-ray content, when it's limited to 24p (eliminating concert discs, some TV discs and documentary discs, and others), and before the home 4K/8K standard is finalized is a gimmick to a degree. Especially when companies like Sony will say the scaler in their 4K projector is better than the scaler inside of their Blu-ray player, so you are better off using the one in the projector. Perhaps if you have a 4K display with no scaler then it's useful, but with most 4K displays available that's not the case. Heck, the 4K Toshiba display doesn't have any sort of 4K input (other than a custom Serial connection for a Toshiba media server) so you can only use the scaler in it.

Once those other issues are worked out, then I'd start to worry about 4K content, but not really before then.
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post #440 of 905
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Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

I'm saying that 4K conversion of Blu-ray content, when it's limited to 24p (eliminating concert discs, some TV discs and documentary discs, and others), and before the home 4K/8K standard is finalized is a gimmick to a degree. Especially when companies like Sony will say the scaler in their 4K projector is better than the scaler inside of their Blu-ray player, so you are better off using the one in the projector. Perhaps if you have a 4K display with no scaler then it's useful, but with most 4K displays available that's not the case. Heck, the 4K Toshiba display doesn't have any sort of 4K input (other than a custom Serial connection for a Toshiba media server) so you can only use the scaler in it.
Once those other issues are worked out, then I'd start to worry about 4K content, but not really before then.

I realize that this is beyond an Oppo player, but won't fiber to the curb/fiber to the house start carrying 4K content?
post #441 of 905
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Originally Posted by kitchen_space View Post

I realize that this is beyond an Oppo player, but won't fiber to the curb/fiber to the house start carrying 4K content?

It may be possible but there have been no announcements that I am aware of that anything is impending. The first big hurdle for 4k content will be to get the content owners to allow 4k material to be made available in any form. I don't see any of them rushing to do this.
post #442 of 905
As many know, Oppo officially announced the new player, the 103 today........it seems many of the features mentioned here have made it into their new model.

Way to go Oppo......
post #443 of 905
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dirk1843 View Post

As many know, Oppo officially announced the new player, the 103 today........it seems many of the features mentioned here have made it into their new model.
Way to go Oppo......

Thanks - I was not aware of it! I'll be getting one for sure!

I'm really looking forward to the reviews, preferably 93 vs. 103.
post #444 of 905
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Originally Posted by dirk1843 View Post

As many know, Oppo officially announced the new player, the 103 today........it seems many of the features mentioned here have made it into their new model.
Way to go Oppo......

Unless I missed it, I didn't see anything regarding IP control. Did that make it into this unit? Hope so....
post #445 of 905
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Originally Posted by dirk1843 View Post

As many know, Oppo officially announced the new player, the 103 today........it seems many of the features mentioned here have made it into their new model.
Way to go Oppo......

Unfortunately, one that didn't...gapless playback.
post #446 of 905
upgrades are always welcome! i didnt see what formats it plays or if flac will be seamless.


I'm not upgrading til flac is seamless. MHL is cool but I listen to high quality audio files on a high quality player. I dont play stuff off my phone though as a side note the added option and convenience is cool.
post #447 of 905
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Originally Posted by Lotus00 View Post

upgrades are always welcome! i didnt see what formats it plays or if flac will be seamless.
I'm not upgrading til flac is seamless. MHL is cool but I listen to high quality audio files on a high quality player. I dont play stuff off my phone though as a side note the added option and convenience is cool.

What you call "seamless" is commonly referred to as "gapless playback".

It has been confirmed that the 103/105 will not offer gapless playback, although evidently the pauses between tracks have been reduced. Still, that's not good enough. To me, it's analogous to watching a movie and between each chapter break, the video screen goes blank for a second. Kind of ruins the experience. It's the one great shortfall of the Oppo as an audio player IMO. Media streamers and htpc's can do it, I was really looking forward to the next generation Oppo to finally get it right.
post #448 of 905
There's no conceivable reason that the Oppo team couldn't use a buffer to prevent gaps. Coders who do it as a hobby (i.e. without pay, in their spare time) have figured it out for the Rockbock platform after all. Is this something that the chipmaker (Mediatek) has to support? Past time to move onto another one that does if so!
post #449 of 905
With two years of lead time since the 93 was released, i find it hard to believe gapless playback has eluded Oppo/Mediatek unless it just wasn't a priority.
post #450 of 905
I will be getting a 103 when available.
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