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post #511 of 905
That player was released in Feb 2011 at least, right before Silicon Image acquired Anchor Bay.
post #512 of 905
Thread Starter 
Had my 103 as soon as they were shipping and LOVING the heck out of the improvements over the 93! I'm so glad I got the 93 a couple of years ago and it will finally make it to the bedroom so that my new 103 can take it's place in the living room. Hoping we'll see several items on this list featured on the 113. I finally stopped updating my new feature list on a daily basis. I can't imagine I'll come up with too many more now that I've been using the 103 for a bit and gotten used to it.
post #513 of 905
I am happy with what has been put into the new 105, and I will be upgrading to it from my 95, but here is my 115 wish list.

All out "Top loader" design, with a separate outboard DAC, keep all the I/O's it has now, but add individual Saber or better DAC's for each channel with XLR output's on each of the 7 channels, and not just the L/R channels.
post #514 of 905
So upgrade every two years at $1000 per that is $500 per year or $1.37 per day biggrin.gif

I guess that is not so bad cheaper than a coffe at Starbucks. If it sounds better than the BDP95 I might upgrade it after all. We will see wink.gif
post #515 of 905
^
You're failing to take into account that these units sell for close to their original retail value even after a couple years use.

The per year cost of using the player can range between $100-$150 after it is sold, not including taxes.
post #516 of 905
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So upgrade every two years at $1000 per that is $500 per year or $1.37 per day biggrin.gif
I guess that is not so bad cheaper than a coffe at Starbucks. If it sounds better than the BDP95 I might upgrade it after all. We will see wink.gif

I think of them as a 4 year investment. The first 2 they go in the living room and after that when I get a new player the old player goes to the bedroom - and since I get the 103 units - that is $125 per year - 35 cents a day biggrin.gif
post #517 of 905
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You're failing to take into account that these units sell for close to their original retail value even after a couple years use.

Yep, and I'm honestly curious as to what an ISO capable 93 could sell for as there is STILL nothing else on the market that will do that as well (and completely bug-free) as the Oppo. Not that I would ever sell mine. Not with 12TB of ISOs and counting. Pity the 93 has a 16TB cap for NAS. I'll still not close to being done archiving all my BDs, not even counting the DVDs (which are of course, smaller). Fortunately, the recommendation to use a docking station solves that problem. Once I exceed the 8 x 2TB limit, I can just continue to fill bare drives and plug in as desired.



Max
post #518 of 905
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Yep, and I'm honestly curious as to what an ISO capable 93 could sell for as there is STILL nothing else on the market that will do that as well (and completely bug-free) as the Oppo. Not that I would ever sell mine. Not with 12TB of ISOs and counting. Pity the 93 has a 16TB cap for NAS. I'll still not close to being done archiving all my BDs, not even counting the DVDs (which are of course, smaller). Fortunately, the recommendation to use a docking station solves that problem. Once I exceed the 8 x 2TB limit, I can just continue to fill bare drives and plug in as desired.
Max

ISO cable what is that?
post #519 of 905
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I think of them as a 4 year investment. The first 2 they go in the living room and after that when I get a new player the old player goes to the bedroom - and since I get the 103 units - that is $125 per year - 35 cents a day biggrin.gif

I so the same I like it so for the 105 would be $0.82 per day, that is even better biggrin.gif
post #520 of 905
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Yep, and I'm honestly curious as to what an ISO capable 93 could sell for as there is STILL nothing else on the market that will do that as well (and completely bug-free) as the Oppo. Not that I would ever sell mine. Not with 12TB of ISOs and counting. Pity the 93 has a 16TB cap for NAS. I'll still not close to being done archiving all my BDs, not even counting the DVDs (which are of course, smaller). Fortunately, the recommendation to use a docking station solves that problem. Once I exceed the 8 x 2TB limit, I can just continue to fill bare drives and plug in as desired.
Max

ISO cable what is that?
ISO capable.

For a short while, the 93/95 had the capability to play ISO files off NAS drives. ISO files are exact copies/images of the disc. They play exactly the same as the disc. Same quality and all the features, just like the physical disc. If the user wanted to, you could also remove annoying ads and trailers if you wanted to.

IMO, it was/is the most powerful way to archive a BD library, which I've been doing slowly with my BDs. Too powerful for the studios who pressured Oppo to remove the feature, which happened in the firmware updates newer than 12/2011. Some of us refused to give up ISO capability, so we never updated the firmware since then.


Max
post #521 of 905
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ISO capable.
For a short while, the 93/95 had the capability to play ISO files off NAS drives.

Incorrect. ISO capability is/was limited to attached storage.
post #522 of 905
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ISO capable.
For a short while, the 93/95 had the capability to play ISO files off NAS drives.

Incorrect. ISO capability is/was limited to attached storage.
Whoops, you're right. Got my acronyms confused. Attached Storage minus the Network.


Max
post #523 of 905
Another vote for DSF / DSDIFF file support (DSD) over UPnp. Does Oppo have chapter support or TrueHD support within MKVs these days?
post #524 of 905
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Another vote for DSF / DSDIFF file support (DSD) over UPnp. Does Oppo have chapter support or TrueHD support within MKVs these days?

It's always had chapter support in MKV.

TrueHD in MKV started working in recent BDP-103 firmware.

Support for PGS/SUP subtitles would be good, but is not there yet. Hidef VOBSUB works.

-Bill
post #525 of 905
An other feature would be if they could offer it in silver rather or in addition to black!
post #526 of 905
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It's always had chapter support in MKV.
TrueHD in MKV started working in recent BDP-103 firmware.
Support for PGS/SUP subtitles would be good, but is not there yet. Hidef VOBSUB works.
-Bill

Last Oppo I used was a BDP-83 smile.gif
post #527 of 905
Like to be able to use a custom screen saver such as a photo gallery with images.
post #528 of 905
Bring back the ABT chip from the 83 for better dvd upconversion.
post #529 of 905
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Bring back the ABT chip from the 83 for better dvd upconversion.

Is the chip even made anymore?

-Bill
post #530 of 905
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Bring back the ABT chip from the 83 for better dvd upconversion.

Can't happen. That chip is no longer an option.
--Bob
post #531 of 905
I'd like to be able to buy a relatively basic, relatively inexpensive, small, barebone Oppo BD/DVD player that has the same video quality and video adjustment features as Oppo's other, more expensive models, but absolutely none of the "smart" features and only HDMI and spdif outputs for audio -- that is, no audio DAC, circuitry, or outputs for analog audio. Oppo could call their new basic player the "BDP-101" model.

Also, since I'm already wishing here, please don't put the Cinavia "feature" on this basic model.
post #532 of 905
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Also, since I'm already wishing here, please don't put the Cinavia "feature" on this basic model.
A new player cannot be released without Cinavia, so that isn't an option.
post #533 of 905
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I'd like to be able to buy a relatively basic, relatively inexpensive, small, barebone Oppo BD/DVD player that has the same video quality and video adjustment features as Oppo's other, more expensive models, but absolutely none of the "smart" features and only HDMI and spdif outputs for audio -- that is, no audio DAC, circuitry, or outputs for analog audio. Oppo could call their new basic player the "BDP-101" model.

You're out of sync with the marketplace. A few years ago everyone wanted simple transports (which made perfect sense to me) but today every doorbell and toaster has to connect to every internet service on the planet (which seems nuts).
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Also, since I'm already wishing here, please don't put the Cinavia "feature" on this basic model.

My crystal ball shows: lawyers...sheriff...a padlocked door...bankruptcy...black fabric bags selling for thousands on ebay...

-Bill
post #534 of 905
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I'd like to be able to buy a relatively basic, relatively inexpensive, small, barebone Oppo BD/DVD player that has the same video quality and video adjustment features as Oppo's other, more expensive models, but absolutely none of the "smart" features and only HDMI and spdif outputs for audio -- that is, no audio DAC, circuitry, or outputs for analog audio. Oppo could call their new basic player the "BDP-101" model.
Also, since I'm already wishing here, please don't put the Cinavia "feature" on this basic model.

That player already exists. It's the Sony BDP-S790.biggrin.gif:)
post #535 of 905
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That player already exists. It's the Sony BDP-S790.biggrin.gif:)
As far as I can tell, the Sony has WiFi, which I don't and will not need. It also doesn't have the great zoom presets that the Oppo has. I definitely want this feature in any new player.
post #536 of 905
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

You're out of sync with the marketplace. A few years ago everyone wanted simple transports (which made perfect sense to me) but today every doorbell and toaster has to connect to every internet service on the planet (which seems nuts).
My crystal ball shows: lawyers...sheriff...a padlocked door...bankruptcy...black fabric bags selling for thousands on ebay...
-Bill
Thanks again, Bill.

I figured that Cinavia would be a standard "feature" from now on.

I'm not saying that Oppo should stop production of its "luxury" models that have every bell, whistle and a kitchen sink.

What I said is to "add to the line" the BDP-101 that, again, has Oppo's fantastic video features. Without all the analog audio circuitry of the luxury units, Oppo should be able to sell the thing for around $200 and still make a healthy profit, don't you think? I think they'd attract video enthusiasts who are not necessarily audiophiles and sell very briskly. Sign me up for one right now.
post #537 of 905
Oppo already tried this approach with the BDP-80 and it didn't sell well and was discontinued. I don't think they will try the same thing again.
post #538 of 905
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Originally Posted by Herve View Post


What I said is to "add to the line" the BDP-101 that, again, has Oppo's fantastic video features. Without all the analog audio circuitry of the luxury units, Oppo should be able to sell the thing for around $200 and still make a healthy profit, don't you think? I think they'd attract video enthusiasts who are not necessarily audiophiles and sell very briskly. Sign me up for one right now.

I don't know: what's the margin on a $200 player and how many do you have to sell to make rent, payroll, etc?

It's hard to see how growing into the tens of millions of units a company could retain the goodness we have today.

-Bill
post #539 of 905
My wife and I own an DV-981HD, which has been, and still is, a great DVD source for our RS1 projecting onto a 120" Dalite HP screen. It is a relatively small, light player and, even so, it has digital and analog audio outs and an S-video out (we don't use either of the latter). It does not have all the bells and whistles (baggage) of the present players, but I would not be a bit surprised if its DVD upscaling performance were equal to, if not better than, that of the new units. Presumably, if the 981 had no analog audio circuitry, it could be even smaller and lighter than it is now and it would almost certainly be only a fraction of the weight of the new BD/DVD/etc./etc. models.

I don't understand how turning away potential customers benefits Oppo. I do not want to spend $500 to get a good zoom. (I already know that it's just not proper to want a zoom feature, let alone use it, but I do want a zoom feature and I will use it.) For that amount of money one can build a more-than-capable HTPC -- a device that has list of options and features that is far longer than an Oppo (other than audiophile analog audio outputs, which can be handled by an external DAC.
post #540 of 905
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Originally Posted by Herve View Post

My wife and I own an DV-981HD, which has been, and still is, a great DVD source for our RS1 projecting onto a 120" Dalite HP screen. It is a relatively small, light player and, even so, it has digital and analog audio outs and an S-video out (we don't use either of the latter). It does not have all the bells and whistles (baggage) of the present players, but I would not be a bit surprised if its DVD upscaling performance were equal to, if not better than, that of the new units. Presumably, if the 981 had no analog audio circuitry, it could be even smaller and lighter than it is now and it would almost certainly be only a fraction of the weight of the new BD/DVD/etc./etc. models.
I don't understand how turning away potential customers benefits Oppo. I do not want to spend $500 to get a good zoom. (I already know that it's just not proper to want a zoom feature, let alone use it, but I do want a zoom feature and I will use it.) For that amount of money one can build a more-than-capable HTPC -- a device that has list of options and features that is far longer than an Oppo (other than audiophile analog audio outputs, which can be handled by an external DAC.

As has already been said: Oppo already tried this and it FAILED. The BDP-80 was a great transport that nobody bought.
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