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post #391 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

What sort of issues did WMC give you?

If I leave the Xbox in an extender session for a long period of time, it sometimes will sit and spin the progress ring/orb and never play a recording. I have to exit out and go back in.

Before (this SEEMS to be fixed now), when Time Warner sent out their stupid emergency tests (around 3am, when I sometimes was up and WANTED to watch TV), it would take over, change to a black channel and not let me change it after that.

If there's the slightest hiccup (obviously not WMC's fault entirely) it tells you about it EVERY time it happens with no ability to dismiss all the modal dialogs. Example: Sometimes it thinks it can't record something, but it actually is but I get to dismiss all 3-4 dialogs there of it warning me. Same with errors like not subscribing to a channel, etc.

WMC isn't smart enough to care that a show is live and prompt you to extend the timing like my TiVo did. I got bit by this when recording some sporting events. I've since changed my ways, but getting back into the recording details for a show takes a lot of steps.

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post #392 of 1922
One dialog box per tuner, maybe.

So is how does it compare to TiVo?

BTW, the Motorola STB / DVR that Uverse uses is pretty darn reliable but it does crash once every few months or so. I really want to leave them though because with Charter I can save about $30/mo using a CC Tuner.
post #393 of 1922
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

It was flawless until yesterday.

Did you get it going again?
post #394 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Did you get it going again?

Nope. I spent a good part of the night on it to no avail. I can't find anything else to try so I am waiting on a reply from SiliconDust. I am work anyway so there's nothing I can really do anyway.
post #395 of 1922
It would kill the WAF if I were at work and she had a day off when something like that happened.
post #396 of 1922
When I first switched to Windows Media Center I would have said the TiVo doesn't even compare (and I have only used a TiVo HD), but lately I kind of wish I still had a simple appliance for my TV. There's certain things I just want to work and TV is one of them.

I won't go back now, but despite how slow the TiVo was and how limited it was, it did TV recordings well. Two things I ran into that I miss is that say I turn on the TV and see a show playing I want to record...I hit record and the TiVo (since it already was tuned to the channel and has it in the buffer) creates the recording and includes the time when the show actually started. WMC just starts recording when you click the button and doesn't use any of the existing buffer. The TiVo also is nice enough to remind you that you may want to extend the recording time for things that are live.

However, I had some problems with SDV + Tuning Adapter + TiVo, but that could have just been the TA and maybe I wouldn't still have those problems. I like how I can get all the diagnostic info w/the Prime, though, which helps a lot when trying to talk to TWC's support monkeys. I also had some other random issues with the TiVo like purple screens and it took what felt like years to reboot. So I probably wouldn't go back to my current TiVo and now that I have the prime w/3 tuners I probably never will, but I still miss the appliance-like reliability with recording.
post #397 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

It would kill the WAF if I were at work and she had a day off when something like that happened.

It's certainly gone from something my wife would brag about to something she'd like to kill me over in about the space of 18 hours.

And, not to sound like an ass, but if I spend half the night on it and can't figure out what's going on, there's something really eff'd up.
post #398 of 1922
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

It's certainly gone from something my wife would brag about to something she'd like to kill me over in about the space of 18 hours.

And, not to sound like an ass, but if I spend half the night on it and can't figure out what's going on, there's something really eff'd up.

Sounds about par for the course as far as women go..

And you don't sound like an ass. You're probably tired and pissed off. Did SD ever get back to you on this?
post #399 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

And you don't sound like an ass. You're probably tired and pissed off. Did SD ever get back to you on this?

Yes, yes and no

And on top of that a no-show to pickup that Lian-Li PC-Q08 I have listed. No shows suck!

I feel like am having a yard sale up there in the Classifieds! It's time to clean out the closet!
post #400 of 1922
You tried running c:\\windows\\ehome\\ehprivjob.exe /OCURDiscovery already, right?

Have you tried connecting the prime directly to your PC to see if possibly it's network issues? What about rebooting your router? Is UPNP turned completely on? Do you have another PC or virtual machine you can see if the same issue happens on other systems? What prime software are you running again? I refuse to upgrade now that it works a bit better...I am on 20120128
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I had a similar issue before, but rebooting both and doing the OCURDiscovery fixed it and the issue only happened because I changed my network's firewall and IP subnet.
post #401 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Dragonfly47 View Post

It's here. Launched today.

Log into Xbox Live

Go to:

Marketplace
Apps Download
Genre
Movies
Xfinity TV
Download to XBOX

One note for those interested: You MUST have a GOLD account to use this. Probably not an issue for most but if you're like me you have but one GOLD account with several silver accounts and various Xboxes. The most likely time we would use the Xfinity app is when my wife wants to use the OnDemand when I'm downstairs playing MW3 but I need my GOLD account for online gaming. So she wouldn't be able to use the same account to use the Xfinity app for OnDemand. Nuts!
post #402 of 1922
I have just ordered the HDHR Prime and researching how to install. I have the HDHR 2 tuner model now and see it works with it some how. I see no place for connections and wonder if it connects to the other unit over the either-net.

Bob
post #403 of 1922
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Originally Posted by rlhowell View Post

I have just ordered the HDHR Prime and researching how to install. I have the HDHR 2 tuner model now and see it works with it some how. I see no place for connections and wonder if it connects to the other unit over the either-net.

Bob

Just as there is a network cable from the HDHR to your router or switch, there will be an additional network cable from the HDHR Prime to your router or switch. They are independent of each other.

I have both on my network. It's handy to have the extra tuners for ClearQAM stations (the networks).
post #404 of 1922
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Originally Posted by rlhowell View Post

I have just ordered the HDHR Prime and researching how to install. I have the HDHR 2 tuner model now and see it works with it some how. I see no place for connections and wonder if it connects to the other unit over the either-net.

Bob

  1. Plug in HDHR to your main router and install HDHR software.
  2. Put in cable card and start HDHR software. You should see Cable card values in diagnostics
  3. Call cable card company and provide them with numbers listed
  4. check if you get "right" channels.
  5. After everything is working start WMC and run "configure TV signal"
post #405 of 1922
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

Just as there is a network cable from the HDHR to your router or switch, there will be an additional network cable from the HDHR Prime to your router or switch. They are independent of each other.

I have both on my network. It's handy to have the extra tuners for ClearQAM stations (the networks).

I have HDHR Prime running very well. Many times I run out of tuners and was wondering if I can buy HDHR2 and configure WMC to use HDHR2 for ClearQAM channels first and Prime for other channels. Is there are way to do that?
post #406 of 1922
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Originally Posted by cnewsgrp View Post

I have HDHR Prime running very well. Many times I run out of tuners and was wondering if I can buy HDHR2 and configure WMC to use HDHR2 for ClearQAM channels first and Prime for other channels. Is there are way to do that?

Yes, you can do it in WMC. You need merge the channels of ClearQAM with CableCard so that all 5 tuners show up in those channels. Then you can edit the tuner priority in each channel so that WMC always use HDHR2 tuners before using Prime tuners. You need to do this one channel a time. So it is a painful process. There are some 3rd party tools that you can use to do it as well.
post #407 of 1922
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Originally Posted by cnewsgrp View Post

I have HDHR Prime running very well. Many times I run out of tuners and was wondering if I can buy HDHR2 and configure WMC to use HDHR2 for ClearQAM channels first and Prime for other channels. Is there are way to do that?

I do this very thing using an application called 'GuideTool'. You can merge the channels from the two devices into one in the guide and set which has priority.
post #408 of 1922
I am replacing a Comcast DVR with this HDHR Prime. Have they set up a way to retain the ON Demand fetchers with this M Cable card and WMC 7?
post #409 of 1922
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

It's certainly gone from something my wife would brag about to something she'd like to kill me over in about the space of 18 hours.

And, not to sound like an ass, but if I spend half the night on it and can't figure out what's going on, there's something really eff'd up.

I tried the following and all seems to work now. I am not sure which step in the process fixed it.

1. Unplug router, switches and HDHR3CC
2. Plug in router, wait for it to come up
3. Plug in switches
4. Plug in HDHR3CC
5. Remove CC from HDHR3CC
6. Count to ten, spin around 3 times
7. Reinsert CC

The WMC UI changed from 'No Signal' to 'Subscription Required'. Re-tuning the channel brought it up with no issues.

Fingers crossed this is a long term solution.
post #410 of 1922
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Originally Posted by rlhowell View Post

I am replacing a Comcast DVR with this HDHR Prime. Have they set up a way to retain the ON Demand fetchers with this M Cable card and WMC 7?

It will never be supported.
post #411 of 1922
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Originally Posted by rlhowell View Post

I am replacing a Comcast DVR with this HDHR Prime. Have they set up a way to retain the ON Demand fetchers with this M Cable card and WMC 7?

Not possible with any third party cable card device. They're all one-way. However, Comcast now has an XFinity app for the Xbox which does OnDemand.
post #412 of 1922
Xbox but not WMC 7 ?? Why not both?
post #413 of 1922
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Originally Posted by rlhowell View Post

Xbox but not WMC 7 ?? Why not both?

It is a separate IP Streaming offering for Xbox, just like the ones for iPad. You don't get all channels from what I was told.

CableCard devices are all one-way comminication devices. In order to support two-way on standard CableCard, your device/PC need to support Tru2Way.
There are many reasons why Tru2way won't be supported by WMC anytime soon. But one of the reason is that once you support Tru2way, your cable co then can push down their software stack to your device/PC so that your WMC will look exactly like your cable box. I'm not sure anyone here is thriled to hear that.
post #414 of 1922
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

I've done all of the following to no avail:
- Reboot, warm and cold all HTPCs
- Soft reset from command line of HDHRPrime
- Power reset of HDHRPrime
- Uninstall HDHomeRun software and reinstall
- Turn off Media Center features and turn them back on (reinstall WMC)
- Change logon user for MC Receiver service
- Update HDHomeRun software
- Perform "repair" through HDHomeRun setup
- Rerun TV signal setup several times in various configurations
- Tear my hair out and lose valuable WAF points
- Change VTC settings, trying every selection

Hopefully someone from SD will answer my post there.

It is likely that your WMC installation is corrupted. I would uninstall WMC (add remove windows features) and remove all related files under local settings etc are related and retry. I am unable to google and find this, but there might be a local file that is corrupted.

If you have anothe windows laptop you can try with that WMC to confirm.
post #415 of 1922
Any word on SD lowering the price on the 3 tuner version yet? Both Ceton and Hauppage are $50 per turner. I just finished wiring the house with CAT 5e and I'm about to kick my Comcast boxes out the door and replace with my Xboxes. I really want a network tuner vs pci card, but I feel like the price is a bit high now. Also, the Ceton seems to attract a bigger crowd.
post #416 of 1922
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Originally Posted by merlot View Post

Any word on SD lowering the price on the 3 tuner version yet? Both Ceton and Hauppage are $50 per turner. I just finished wiring the house with CAT 5e and I'm about to kick my Comcast boxes out the door and replace with my Xboxes. I really want a network tuner vs pci card, but I feel like the price is a bit high now. Also, the Ceton seems to attract a bigger crowd.

As much as I would like to see the prices go down I don't think this is a fair comparison. The two cheaper ones are tuners with a PC interface and nothing more. The SD boxes are tuners but also power sources and network interfaces as well and these things cost money. My opinion is that a 3-tuner network device for $170 shipped is a better value than a 4-tuner PCI card at $200. Not to mention that for someone of very basic needs who only needs a couple tuners the HR Prime still represents the least expensive device. I'd hate to see SD add a 4th tuner and 'lower' the price to $200 to compete if you know what I mean.
post #417 of 1922
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

As much as I would like to see the prices go down I don't think this is a fair comparison. The two cheaper ones are tuners with a PC interface and nothing more. The SD boxes are tuners but also power sources and network interfaces as well and these things cost money. My opinion is that a 3-tuner network device for $170 shipped is a better value than a 4-tuner PCI card at $200. Not to mention that for someone of very basic needs who only needs a couple tuners the HR Prime still represents the least expensive device. I'd hate to see SD add a 4th tuner and 'lower' the price to $200 to compete if you know what I mean.

Amazon is selling for $233 now. I checked prices EVERY DAY for the past 2 weeks. Naturally, when I stopped checking, Newegg had that 4 hour sale. I'm really about the say the hell with it and go for a Ceton, which is far more popular on this forum. And why is the price going up??
post #418 of 1922
Micro Center has the HDHR Prime for 209...
an the Ceton for 199
post #419 of 1922
I just got mine today, paid $195 w/free shipping from B&H Photo. I ran by the local Comcast office this morning and picked up a CC (free) and when the UPS guy showed up I stuck the card in it and activated it online. Cool! I thought my 10/100 network might be an issue, but I'm recording 3 different shows on 3 different computers and everything is fine. Including wireless G. No problems. I'm liking this!

Steve
post #420 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Whytlash View Post

I just got mine today, paid $195 w/free shipping from B&H Photo. I ran by the local Comcast office this morning and picked up a CC (free) and when the UPS guy showed up I stuck the card in it and activated it online. Cool! I thought my 10/100 network might be an issue, but I'm recording 3 different shows on 3 different computers and everything is fine. Including wireless G. No problems. I'm liking this!

Steve

An HD program will run roughly 25mbps so with three you are fine. Now, if you're recording three and then streaming a previously recorded program to an extender you may run into issues depending on what sort of other PC/network activity is going on at the same time. Upgrading to gigabit won't be difficult though as you don't need it for EVERYTHING. You really just need it for the leg of the network that connects the PC to the Prime. So a simple gigabit PCI card and gigabit switch can do the trick and both can be head for well under $20ea if you shop around. Not really a big expenditure for what you'll be saving over leasing cable provider equipment.
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