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post #691 of 1922
did u have a set of instructions u followed? Mind linking to them if you have em?

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post #692 of 1922
I will try write something up later today or tomorrow. Just on my tablet away from home now. Meanwhile google hdhr-VLC and HTTP streaming from VLC.
post #693 of 1922
I'm thinking this doesn't work for copy protected content.
post #694 of 1922
Below is the contents of a .bat file I use on my PC with VLC installed to set up streaming. You can open up VLC and choose the stream option and do all this using the GUI, but it is a real PITA each time. You could split the below example into separate .bat files for the tuner and VLC part. I set up my PC with a scheduled task to run a bat file that starts streaming,. You can later stop the tuner but there is no way to stop VLC via command line, only manually. There is a way to tell VLC to stream for a set time, I have not tried it yet but it would just add parameters to the VLC command.

Sorry for posting like this, could not figure out a way to upload this file separately. Also, apologies for maybe not being on topic for this thread, just trying to help answer a question. Very timely as I just got this to work a couple days ago,.

This for a DUAL, I am pretty sure a prime works the same way. It works for un-flagged channels only of course. The OS is Win7 64bit.
Blue fields are the ones you need to update for your setup.

i can now place-shift with this poor man's slingbox

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cd C:\Program Files\Silicondust\HDHomeRun

hdhomerun_config 1036DA23 set /tuner1/channel auto:117000000

hdhomerun_config 1036DA23 set /tuner1/program 6

hdhomerun_config 1036DA23 set /tuner1/target 192.168.15.111:5000

:: The above commands tell your HDHR to send its UDP signal to the Computer with the IP address
:: listed and using port 5000. You have to know the channel and program number. You can test if
:: it works by opening VLC, choose Open Network Stream, and enter udp://@:5000. VLC should begin
:: playing the video.
:: Since this is a DOS command line approach, I started by changing to the directory that houses
:: the hdhomerun_config.exe file.so it is in the command path.
:: '1036DA23' is my tuner ID. This example uses tuner1, you could choose another.
:: IMPORTANT: your HDHR will keep streaming unless you stop it. Do that by using the channel command
:: above and set channel to none.. I use a separate .bat file with the following and run it when I am done.
:: ::::::::: cd C:\Program Files\Silicondust\HDHomeRun
:: ::::::::: hdhomerun_config 1036DA23 set /tuner1/channel none

:: BELOW are the commands for VLC to open, transcode and stream, so first I change to the directory
:: that VLC.exe resides in before entering the VLC commands.



cd C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\

vlc -vvv "udp://@:5000" --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,scale=0.30,vb=0,acodec=mp3,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=22050
}:standard{access=http,mux=ts,ttl=15,dst=:8989/}"



:: -vvv "udp://@:5000" sets the source to be the udp stream from the HDHR (FYI you could stream a video file or webcam by making that the input instead)
:: --sout sets the transcoded output. In this case I scaled to 0.30, or 30% original resolution. This is
:: a must to get bandwidth down below my upload limit. I will play around with this to see how high I can go.
:: A lower scaling also helps ease the burden on the transcoding CPU, which could be a bottleneck depending on your PC.
:: I chose the mp3 audio codec to also reduce bandwidth with bitrate set to 128 kbps
:: and lowered the sampling rate to 1/2 of normal

:: "standard" is where we state the serving parameters, in this case we want http protocol and a "TS" wrapper
:: (other wrappers, like AVI and MKV do not work well with HTTP protocol, from what I have come to understand)
:: ttl is the "time to live" which is set higher depending on the number of routers your stream might need to
:: go through. I just set to 15 to be safe, have not tried to lower it yet. May need to be higher in some cases.
:: finally 8989 is the port I am streaming to/from. This must be port-forwarded on your router.

:: Once streaming, to access over internet, open VLC on the remote client, choose open network stream
:: and enter http://###.###.###:8989, putting in your "external" or WAN IP address (google "my ip") This changes
:: on occasion for most ISPs, so you need to check or set up a DNS service. Also, you may want to change the caching
:: delay from the default 1200 ms to more like 5000 ms. Seems to help. Other software besides VLC could be used as a client.
:: You can stream to a client on your LAN by using your LAN IP address. This is a good way to test also. (hint, click tools->codec info->statistics in VLC
:: to see your streaming bitrate.


:: Below are some program and channel numbers I was able to get from my
:: HDHR quick TV XML file. These are different for every cable provider or location.
:: I set up a separate "tune and stream" .bat file for each one I might want.

:: WJZY SD 579000000 55
:: WJZY DT 579000000 53
:: WJZY 573000000 9
:: WBTV DT 561000000 152

::
Edited by DanPackMan - 9/2/12 at 5:53am
post #695 of 1922
wow, awesome! thanks for the info. Will work on this when I get a chance. I'll post back w/ an update
post #696 of 1922
^Your welcome. I updated a few items after re-reading this am.
post #697 of 1922
Any suggestions on doing a remote reboot of Cisco TA on a weekly basis? I some times get unable to acces channel at this time errors and I know it is due to the TA box flaking again.

For those with the Cisco TAs what do you do to prevent these from happening? I have replaced the box twice and I think I may have to replace another box if it acts up again.
post #698 of 1922
The only way I can think of to reboot the TA is a power line timer switch that cuts off and on at some off hour.
post #699 of 1922
Anyone else having gobs of issues lately? I think I read something about an update or something last week so I'm not sure if this is related but I've noticed a few things. The first is my primary PC's clock as set 5min earlier w/o me making any adjustments. This resulted in many of my shows starting to record late and missing the beginning. This isn't a huge deal as I manually adjusted the clock and I'm sure all will be corrected on this front... just thought it odd. Up next are the issues that are more annoying and still w/o a fix. First, I keep getting that annoying pop-up that says there's 'No TV signal' and that show such and such can't be recorded. Then, when I go to my recorded programs listing I see that it is indeed being recorded. A while back I had changed a setting within WMC that stopped these from popping up all of the time and cured this issue which I was having a long time ago but not as frequently as I am now. Now when I go into the settings I'm not seeing an option for this. Am I imagining this setting or was it something that was removed with an update or ?? Lastly and something I'm sure is related to all of this is that several of my show recordings have been truncated. I've noticed that it seems to record about the first 10min of these shows before stopping. When I watch the playback it will say something to the effect of TV signal in a blue screen when it gets to the end. I don't know what has been changed or if there indeed has been some sort of an update that is causing my issues but what I do know is that I've had months and months of flawless use w/o even so much as a reboot.

Anyone have any ideas or thoughts? Anyone else still having the same issues or is it just me?

I'm running two SD HomeRun Prime HD's on a Win 7 machine with Xbox 360's as front end devices. Connections between the PC, tuners & network is all gigabit.
post #700 of 1922
I have noticed a lot of issues but most of them stem from my TA acting up. The drivers seem to be stable from the release earlier in the month for me. I do remember reading about people getting multiple recordings of a show. Not sure what the fix was.

Do you have a TA in your setup?
post #701 of 1922
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

I have noticed a lot of issues but most of them stem from my TA acting up. The drivers seem to be stable from the release earlier in the month for me. I do remember reading about people getting multiple recordings of a show. Not sure what the fix was.
Do you have a TA in your setup?

Nope. Comcast and no TA for me. I also don't recall any duplicate recordings but I have noticed from day 1 that if I have conflicting series there appears to be no warning or message telling me that something I've scheduled isn't going to record allowing me to find another showing or juggle my schedule. This has been since day 1 though and is unrelated to the new issues.
post #702 of 1922
Just noticed this at SD's forum. If your running auto update you should look and see if this downloaded. This was a reply to an odd situation...



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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:21 am Post subject:
Did you run the MS updates relesaed today?

See if you installed this one:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2719857

After the update I ran into trouble first with the Ceton in the HP and then then ALL tuners (both Prime & HD Homerun).

Uninstall that update if that was installed. Hide it so it won't comeback at you and then go back and run all that stuff again....
post #703 of 1922
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

I have successfully been able to transcode live tv from my hdhr dual using VLC to transcode and stream, accessing over the internet. I was pleased with the quality, am still testing. No ability to control remotely, it must be set up to run before you leave the house.
VPN approaches are probably futile from a quality standpoint. Upload bandwidth is the most limiting factor.

Another program out there is called Remote Potato. It provides internet streaming and remote control of Media Center. It even works with BD-quality MKVs (it's transcoded to your settings). Only thing it doesn't do is live TV. But you can remotely set the program to record and watch it after it's done. I do know Remote Potato works with copy-freely programs. I haven't had the chance yet to test if it works on copy-once. The program runs off my server and I need to change it to my HTPC that records to see if copy-once works. My gut feeling is it won't, because the program needs to transcode the file, and I doubt the program interacts with media center as an extender would, which would allow it to transcode a copy-once.

Quality is excellent and only limited by your internet connection.
post #704 of 1922
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Just noticed this at SD's forum. If your running auto update you should look and see if this downloaded. This was a reply to an odd situation...
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:21 am Post subject:
Did you run the MS updates relesaed today?
See if you installed this one:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2719857
After the update I ran into trouble first with the Ceton in the HP and then then ALL tuners (both Prime & HD Homerun).
Uninstall that update if that was installed. Hide it so it won't comeback at you and then go back and run all that stuff again....

Do you have a link to the thread on the SiliconDust forums?

What kind of errors are seen? My prime is working fine and I do all updates manually unless I've read of a problem with one beforehand. I am on Win7x86 and don't know if this update is installed at all as I'm not home right now.
post #705 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Multimediashtick View Post

Just noticed this at SD's forum. If your running auto update you should look and see if this downloaded. This was a reply to an odd situation...
JohnW248
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:21 am Post subject:
Did you run the MS updates relesaed today?
See if you installed this one:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2719857
After the update I ran into trouble first with the Ceton in the HP and then then ALL tuners (both Prime & HD Homerun).
Uninstall that update if that was installed. Hide it so it won't comeback at you and then go back and run all that stuff again....

I'm not sure but clicking the link and reading the title doesn't seem like it has anything to do with my problems.
post #706 of 1922
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Originally Posted by jrwalte View Post

Another program out there is called Remote Potato. It provides internet streaming and remote control of Media Center. It even works with BD-quality MKVs (it's transcoded to your settings). Only thing it doesn't do is live TV. But you can remotely set the program to record and watch it after it's done. I do know Remote Potato works with copy-freely programs. I haven't had the chance yet to test if it works on copy-once. The program runs off my server and I need to change it to my HTPC that records to see if copy-once works. My gut feeling is it won't, because the program needs to transcode the file, and I doubt the program interacts with media center as an extender would, which would allow it to transcode a copy-once.
Quality is excellent and only limited by your internet connection.

RP looks like nice software, I looked at it but my only need was live TV streaming, local sports in particular. The VLC method works really well if you know what you want to watch in advance. All you need is the HDHR software installed plus VLC. You can really optimize the feed for your particular end device and upload bandwidth. For example, I did a little cropping from the top/bottom/sides which allows higher resolution at the same bandwidth.

I recently watched a football game streamed from home while visiting a relative. Picture quality was great. My problem is solved.
post #707 of 1922
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Originally Posted by jrwalte View Post

Another program out there is called Remote Potato. It provides internet streaming and remote control of Media Center. It even works with BD-quality MKVs (it's transcoded to your settings). Only thing it doesn't do is live TV. But you can remotely set the program to record and watch it after it's done. I do know Remote Potato works with copy-freely programs. I haven't had the chance yet to test if it works on copy-once. The program runs off my server and I need to change it to my HTPC that records to see if copy-once works. My gut feeling is it won't, because the program needs to transcode the file, and I doubt the program interacts with media center as an extender would, which would allow it to transcode a copy-once.
Quality is excellent and only limited by your internet connection.

It works fine with programs set to copy-once as I use it all the time. Never had a problem streaming something labeled copy-once. It basically streams it from the machine it was recorded on so that's why there aren't any issues. I love, love, LOVE Remote Potato and if you use WMC and a tuner for cable you need this program. It's saved me on numerous occasions when I'm out running errands and realized some sporting event or TV show is about to start that I forgot to record. It's also nice when you suddenly realize you have a loooong wait somewhere (DMV) and within seconds can start streaming your favorite TV show or whatever from your home DVR. You can even manage and delete the ones you don't need freeing up space should you need to. The list of the functionality Remote Potato adds is endless.
post #708 of 1922
I have had issues trying to watch HD recordings using RemotePotato that I record using HDHR-prime. I'm on TWC which I think could be the problem. I only see a gray screen and no audio at all. I have tried using the lowest settings and still no luck. This is all on wifi within my network. However RemotePotato does well when trying to remotely set my recordings.
post #709 of 1922
I didn't read the whole thread to get up to date, but I was wondering why no one is using Splashtop to stream live tv. It gives you full control of whatever is on your pc. You can run wmc right on your mobile device. I have tried it before and it works. I don't usually use it because I usually put a few mkv's on my phone incase I feel like watching something.
post #710 of 1922
I think I posted about this already, but in case anyone missed it...I've found both Plex and Air Video to be great apps for streaming WTV files. You can't stream in-progress recordings, and they need to be flagged as copy-freely, but the PQ is very, very good. The server-side applets take care of the configuration for you so that you can stream outside of the home, though I haven't done much experimentation with that, so I can't comment much on how good the PQ is in that use case.
post #711 of 1922
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

I have had issues trying to watch HD recordings using RemotePotato that I record using HDHR-prime. I'm on TWC which I think could be the problem. I only see a gray screen and no audio at all. I have tried using the lowest settings and still no luck. This is all on wifi within my network. However RemotePotato does well when trying to remotely set my recordings.

I love Remote Potato and use it all the time, using the iPad app to watch remotely. Full HD video quality, can stream mkv, Recorded TV, other formats, your whole collection in WMC. However the gray screen is how it deals with Copy Once material--it won't stream.
You can do a very acceptable "almost live" stream by setting program to record, remotely from the iPad if needed, and then about 15 or 30 mins in, that recording is now available to be streamed. So you can watch live stuff on a bit of a delay.

On my system sports games are copy freely so I do this regularly to watch the game from the iPad, sometimes just from a different part of the house.
post #712 of 1922
I do not think I'd be able to even watch slightly delayed programs as TWC sets everything to "Copy Protected." Guess I am stuck.
post #713 of 1922
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

Anyone else having gobs of issues lately? I think I read something about an update or something last week so I'm not sure if this is related but I've noticed a few things. The first is my primary PC's clock as set 5min earlier w/o me making any adjustments. This resulted in many of my shows starting to record late and missing the beginning. This isn't a huge deal as I manually adjusted the clock and I'm sure all will be corrected on this front... just thought it odd. Up next are the issues that are more annoying and still w/o a fix. First, I keep getting that annoying pop-up that says there's 'No TV signal' and that show such and such can't be recorded. Then, when I go to my recorded programs listing I see that it is indeed being recorded. A while back I had changed a setting within WMC that stopped these from popping up all of the time and cured this issue which I was having a long time ago but not as frequently as I am now. Now when I go into the settings I'm not seeing an option for this. Am I imagining this setting or was it something that was removed with an update or ?? Lastly and something I'm sure is related to all of this is that several of my show recordings have been truncated. I've noticed that it seems to record about the first 10min of these shows before stopping. When I watch the playback it will say something to the effect of TV signal in a blue screen when it gets to the end. I don't know what has been changed or if there indeed has been some sort of an update that is causing my issues but what I do know is that I've had months and months of flawless use w/o even so much as a reboot.

Anyone have any ideas or thoughts? Anyone else still having the same issues or is it just me?

I'm running two SD HomeRun Prime HD's on a Win 7 machine with Xbox 360's as front end devices. Connections between the PC, tuners & network is all gigabit.

In case anyone else has this problem I found a potential fix that I'm going to try when I get a chance.

My guess is there was a Windows update that is causing conflict. In support of this I was able to find this link about Win7 and WMC and the pop-up message I've been having:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2708283

Seems like a possible fix for the Weak TV Signal message. I wonder if this isn't also causing the truncated recording issue that recently started. Seems that possibly a Windows update to my primary PC could have caused all of this and if there's a registry edit that solves the message it could also solve the other problem.

In case anyone else is experiencing the same issues this could be a potential fix.
post #714 of 1922
If you got an iPad2 or iPad3, checkout InstaTV Pro. It streams live tv directly from HDHomeRun (all model include Prime with copy-freely channels)
No server software installation is required (plex or airvideo or instatv server)
I have been using InstaTV Pro for a few months since the beta release and I am very satisfied.

There still are a few bugs and occasionally it crashes for no reason but usually restart the app would work fine again. Highly recommended to anyone using hdhomerun.

Here is a demo(it's silent so nothing is wrong with your speaker biggrin.gif):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZc_hp8VV_c
post #715 of 1922
Has anybody successfully used the HDHomerun Prime to tune 3D channels from your cable provider? Silicondust support said it should work, but they haven't tried it.
post #716 of 1922
I can't see why it wouldn't tune them as there is nothing special about the channel tuning. The issue would be whether or not the calling application can display 3d content properly, which would have nothing to do with the Prime.
post #717 of 1922
You're cable provider has 3D channels?
post #718 of 1922
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Originally Posted by tawd1992 View Post

Has anybody successfully used the HDHomerun Prime to tune 3D channels from your cable provider? Silicondust support said it should work, but they haven't tried it.

Yes, it works but very difficult to use. First of all, my cable provider Cox doesn't broadcast 3D channel all the time, only on special occasions like Summer Olympics. If it is not broadcasting, you get no signal on that channel. Second of all, it is using top-bottom or side-by-side 3D mode and I have to manually switch my TV to match the mode in order to see the 3D video. There is no automatic way to switch that for you as the entire playback chain (Cable tuner, WMC and. extender aren't 3D aware at all).
post #719 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Yes, it works but very difficult to use. First of all, my cable provider Cox doesn't broadcast 3D channel all the time, only on special occasions like Summer Olympics. If it is not broadcasting, you get no signal on that channel. Second of all, it is using top-bottom or side-by-side 3D mode and I have to manually switch my TV to match the mode in order to see the 3D video. There is no automatic way to switch that for you as the entire playback chain (Cable tuner, WMC and. extender aren't 3D aware at all).

Thanks for confirming that. I have an LG 42LM6200 TV & when I watch 3D Blu-rays through Media Browser & TMT5 the TV will automatically switch to 3D mode. Hopefully the same will happen when I'm watching 3D TV. Does your TV automatically switch to 3D mode when watching 3D Blu-rays?
post #720 of 1922
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

You're cable provider has 3D channels?

Only a few & they're premium channels, but I might try one out to see how I like it.
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