My Epson 3010 projector just arrived! - Page 51

Originally Posted by teeger

Since I posed about these glassess, I kind of felt that I should go out and do a bit of research. I picked up a pair at Best Buy yesterday.

Damn . . . I was hoping that these would simply "turn on" and work. But sadly, I haven't yet been able to get the glasses to turn on to be able to sync with the projector (if it's even possible).

I haven't spent much time trying, but there is a site that the group owning the new universal glasses standard "Full HD Glasses" hosts. This is the technology that the new Samsung glasses has built into them. If you look at the page that I've linked of the Licensee List you can see that Seiko Epson IS listed for their 3D projectors. I do notice in the columns that show feature support that Epson doesn't show their products support IR Full HD. The Epson projectors do, however, support RF Full HD with the correct technology built in to the SSG-4100 glasses, at least according to this page.

The Samsung specs DO SAY the SSG-4100's support the Full HD RF protocol - which is what the projector is supposedly supporting - you can see this in the Web page devoted to the SSG-4100 glasses http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/t...ype=3d-glasses. And you can see that Epson projectors supposidy support this same proticol here . . . http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com/index.php/licensee-list/.

If anyone has any thoughts on what I should try to get the projector to work with these glasses, please let me know.

It would be awesome IF these $20.00 glasses would work for the Epson ... and in my case my Samsung 3D plasma too.

Ian

Originally Posted by teeger

Since I posed about these glassess, I kind of felt that I should go out and do a bit of research. I picked up a pair at Best Buy yesterday.

Damn . . . I was hoping that these would simply "turn on" and work. But sadly, I haven't yet been able to get the glasses to turn on to be able to sync with the projector (if it's even possible).

I haven't spent much time trying, but there is a site that the group owning the new universal glasses standard "Full HD Glasses" hosts. This is the technology that the new Samsung glasses has built into them. If you look at the page that I've linked of the Licensee List you can see that Seiko Epson IS listed for their 3D projectors. I do notice in the columns that show feature support that Epson doesn't show their products support IR Full HD. The Epson projectors do, however, support RF Full HD with the correct technology built in to the SSG-4100 glasses, at least according to this page.

The Samsung specs DO SAY the SSG-4100's support the Full HD RF protocol - which is what the projector is supposedly supporting - you can see this in the Web page devoted to the SSG-4100 glasses http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/t...ype=3d-glasses. And you can see that Epson projectors supposidy support this same proticol here . . . http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com/index.php/licensee-list/.

If anyone has any thoughts on what I should try to get the projector to work with these glasses, please let me know.

It would be awesome IF these $20.00 glasses would work for the Epson ... and in my case my Samsung 3D plasma too.

Ian

Originally Posted by wazzul

Now that there are many more owners of the 3010, I'd like to ask for some input.
I have three 3010 paired with an electric screen which is controlled by infrared. The problem is during 3d playback if I hit the volume up button during intense 3d sequences the screen up command is activated, then I have to rush to hit the screen down button before I start to cut off the bottom of the picture.
Anybody else experience this? What do you do to counteract it? The projector doesn't have a screen trigger but maybe there's done other way to trigger the screen without IR.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by wazzul

Now that there are many more owners of the 3010, I'd like to ask for some input.
I have three 3010 paired with an electric screen which is controlled by infrared. The problem is during 3d playback if I hit the volume up button during intense 3d sequences the screen up command is activated, then I have to rush to hit the screen down button before I start to cut off the bottom of the picture.
Anybody else experience this? What do you do to counteract it? The projector doesn't have a screen trigger but maybe there's done other way to trigger the screen without IR.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by EvilAlwaysWins

I have a question about the 3d glasses with the epson 3010. I know I push the button on the bottem to turn them on but what about turning them off. Will they shut off on there own or do I push the button again? Also what are the switches on the glasses by the hinges? Are those anything?

Originally Posted by WestCoastD

I'm more into drama, so I'm wondering if there will be much of a 3D market?

Originally Posted by wazzul

Now that there are many more owners of the 3010, I'd like to ask for some input.
I have three 3010 paired with an electric screen which is controlled by infrared. The problem is during 3d playback if I hit the volume up button during intense 3d sequences the screen up command is activated, then I have to rush to hit the screen down button before I start to cut off the bottom of the picture.
Anybody else experience this? What do you do to counteract it? The projector doesn't have a screen trigger but maybe there's done other way to trigger the screen without IR.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by teeger

Since I posed about these glassess, I kind of felt that I should go out and do a bit of research. I picked up a pair at Best Buy yesterday.

Damn . . . I was hoping that these would simply "turn on" and work. But sadly, I haven't yet been able to get the glasses to turn on to be able to sync with the projector (if it's even possible).

I haven't spent much time trying, but there is a site that the group owning the new universal glasses standard "Full HD Glasses" hosts. This is the technology that the new Samsung glasses has built into them. If you look at the page that I've linked of the Licensee List you can see that Seiko Epson IS listed for their 3D projectors. I do notice in the columns that show feature support that Epson doesn't show their products support IR Full HD. The Epson projectors do, however, support RF Full HD with the correct technology built in to the SSG-4100 glasses, at least according to this page.

The Samsung specs DO SAY the SSG-4100's support the Full HD RF protocol - which is what the projector is supposedly supporting - you can see this in the Web page devoted to the SSG-4100 glasses http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/t...ype=3d-glasses. And you can see that Epson projectors supposidy support this same proticol here . . . http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com/index.php/licensee-list/.

If anyone has any thoughts on what I should try to get the projector to work with these glasses, please let me know.

It would be awesome IF these $20.00 glasses would work for the Epson ... and in my case my Samsung 3D plasma too.

Ian

Originally Posted by xhonzi


Are you using the 3010 for sound? Or is it the Volume Up button on another remote? Or are you using the HDMI Link feature?

Originally Posted by wazzul

I use my Onkyo receiver for sound and a logitech harmony remote. I just wish there was a way to roof the screen trigger so when one of the other devices per on the screen starts to drop.

Originally Posted by monkey

It's embarrassing to even share this story, but I had the best customer service experience of my life with my Epson 3010 recently.

I didn't deserve or expect anything from Epson, but they were amazing. I'm a customer for life.

I posted the story here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=72469.0

Originally Posted by xhonzi

Baz Luhrmann's The Great Gatsby is in 3D this fall.

Originally Posted by WestCoastD

cool, thanks! Funny, I can remember seeing "The Great Gatsby" at the theater when it was originally released (giving my age away)

Originally Posted by xhonzi


So it sounds like the harmony is sending a signal to the Onkyo that is being received/interpretted by the screen. What does this have to do with the 3010? Or are you saying that this only happens when the 3010 is blasting the IR glasses-synch-signal? That the screen's IR receiver is so confused by the synch-signal that it reacts to the volume up signal meant for the Onkyo?

Originally Posted by EvilAlwaysWins

Having a slight issue with my 3010. It is working but I am hearing a noise from the unit. Almost sounds like a harddrive running hard. Could there be a fan on the inside making the noise?

Originally Posted by falafala

dont settle for loud iris...thats a bug too andf many of us solved it with replacement PJs.

Originally Posted by teeger

Hey, falafala . . .

Thanks for kicking me into grear . . . the iris noise with my replacement unit was a lot louder than the first projector (that couldn't achieve good focus). So, after watching a few movies, it was obvious that the noise wasn't normal . . . it was just too loud.

I called Epson, and a second unit was shipped out. I've watched a couple of movies . . . and the iris is at least 10 times quieter than the last unit. In really quite scenes where the audio is practically non-existent, you can BARELY hear the iris do its thing. Plus, the unit has good focus and seems to work well.

The only disappointing aspect is that, while Epson said they would be sending a brand-new (not refurb) unit, there are a number of scuff marks (minor scratches) on the top of the unit ... plus another scuff mark on the right side. Also, along the horizontal seam (right side) where the white plastic top and bottom panels join there is what looks like some abrasion where someone had difficulty putting the top and bottom together without scraping the casing where it meets the bottom part of the plastic housing. It's minor damage, for sure. But, I can't figure how a new unit would look like this. Even one of the stickers on the bottom of the unit has something sticky on the face of it.

When you get a NEW replacement from Epson, the way it's packed looks exactly like a brand new unit - with all of the new looking manuals, AC cord, remote, etc. Epson instructed me to simply take the new unit from the new box, and then simply place the defective projector in the box they shipped the replacement in. They just ask that you keep all of your original accessories, and return the defective projector with all of the unopened accessories that came with the replacement. They must open up the units to removed the glasses - since both replacements were without the 3D glasses.

I think I'll simply keep this unit, even though it's a bit marked up. My only concern is that it's a refurb . . . but maybe some new units are market up from handling at the factory? Since my original purchase was within the first month when new units are promised replacements, I sure don't like the idea of a used (refurb) being sent out as new.

At least it works well . . . and one is supposed to look at the movie on the screen . . . and NOT at the projector itself (on-the-shelf) as the source of good entertainment.

The one aspect that makes me wonder about projector manufacturing in general is how different the three 3010's I've had have performed. The first - very poor sharpness. The second - great sharp image but super loud iris with 3D performance that had more ghosting than my first unit. If the iris hadn't been loud, I could live with the ghosting - not a deal breaker if the unit works well otherwise.

The 3D performance of the 2nd replacement is the best yet. I put in a couple of movies where slight ghosting was obvious with the first and second unit. This projector didn't show any - none at all! I then played a bit of Hugo (worst ghosting of any movie I own) and it still showed ghosting in a few spots where I expected to see it. But the ghosting was much less obvious.

It seems that the crosstalk / ghosting issue is something that really plays out differently - not only from one make vs. another - but even when comparing the same exact model against another of the same. These differences might be a due to various firmware versions in use, or perhaps different main boards, etc. are used in different production runs, for example.

Ian

Originally Posted by falafala

my 2nd 3010 I got from Best Buy had similar scratches on the case and the lens had residue of some sopa solution....I concluded that it was a used unit and swapped it 3rd time with Best Buy which is the one i finally settled with.

unfortunately there seem to be a lot of quality control issues with this model, but the Epson customer service makes up for it....although its a bit of a hassle to go through the exchange process (thats why i chose to take advantage of Best Buy exchange policy till i was fully satisfied).