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post #1711 of 1982
well if 3D is not you are looking for and if i have to choose then i shall go for this projector:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/828746-REG/Panasonic_PT_AR100U_PT_AR100U_Full_HD_Projector.html
post #1712 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

well if 3D is not you are looking for and if i have to choose then i shall go for this projector:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/828746-REG/Panasonic_PT_AR100U_PT_AR100U_Full_HD_Projector.html

Thanks mate. That was one of the other alternatives. But here in New Zealand the price difference is huge and for some reason on ebay it is too? Unless you know of an American stockist that worldwide for pretty cheap?
post #1713 of 1982
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Originally Posted by BlueGuy85 View Post

It seems to always be on 23.96hz on the ps3, cable and movies. Seems to be stuck on there and so there is visible lag.
Is there anyway to manually increase the refresh rate?

None that I'm aware of, but the article I linked to does mention how you can go about "Resetting the PS3 Video Output". Are you using at least a 1.3 spec hdmi cable?
post #1714 of 1982
Thanks for the feedback on the PS glasses. I think I will try them out at a Best Buy if I can.
I didn't know those Epson glasses could be adjusted. It's a pretty drastic setting, almost like a child/adult difference. I'll have to see if I can tolerate it for a 2+ hour movie. It is pretty tight. Titanic will be on my doorstep this week so that will be the perfect opportunity.
post #1715 of 1982
I just purchased 2 PS3 glasses and vouch that they work great. As mentioned, it is not perfect but syncs great. The buttons, switch and charging outlet are annoying but Ican deal with it. I actually prefer the PS3 glasses due to less cross-talk. Fit is subjectively dependent on the user.

Question I have is, I'm getting blurriness and undefined/illdefined images on the edges of the screen (within margins of 1-2" from the trim). Anyone else have this phenomenon? I search the web and the forum but couldn't find anything similar. I did follow the recommendation of the fine-line adjustments in this thread but only off +/- 2 clicks off of factory default. Changes made no difference.
post #1716 of 1982
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

I know you've returned the pj, but there is a way to access/activate the "lcd alignment" on that model, if your interested.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1366241/my-epson-3010-projector-just-arrived/1260#post_21893195

2 days too late for this great tidbit.

BUT my new 5010 is working great

Jeff
post #1717 of 1982
Has anyone watched Titanic 3D on its 3010. Please comment. I have watched but unlike around the world i did not get very impressed. It is as usual 2D to 3D converted movie with average depth and obviously no pop outs but people are claiming that there are pop outs and lots of depth and every one is saying that it deserve 5/5 rating just for 3D. Rest is all great as usual. This movie does not need any recognition. So please watch it on your 3010 and comment on your experience.
post #1718 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

Has anyone watched Titanic 3D on its 3010. Please comment. I have watched but unlike around the world i did not get very impressed. It is as usual 2D to 3D converted movie with average depth and obviously no pop outs but people are claiming that there are pop outs and lots of depth and every one is saying that it deserve 5/5 rating just for 3D. Rest is all great as usual. This movie does not need any recognition. So please watch it on your 3010 and comment on your experience.

I will be watching this today or tomorrow ! Cant wait !

But recently I got UK import of kingdom of Plants 3D which is an awesomely long documentary that has one of the best 3D visuals.....rivals that of Avatar or Hugo in my opinion as the volume is so perceptible ! 3D is also very easy on eyes but colors are as always brilliant and vibrant !
post #1719 of 1982
Kingdom of Plants is amazing, really enjoyed it on 3010, no crosstalk/ghosting at all and it is visually stunning. AVATAR or HUGO, i wish they would have made these movies with many pop outs as these movies only have a few, besides HUGO has lots of crosstalk (known facts for LCD users) but AVATAR no crosstalk. Yesterday, i saw again a bit of Titanic again and I was not so impressed, tried to find out where is the best 3D but I could not, to me it is just a SO SO 2D to 3D conversion. I did not feel much of depth or pop outs as people are roaring on forums or blu-ray.com and giving its 3D as good as AVATAR or HUGO an so it make me crazy that why I do not see that much of 3D on my 3010 as others see.
post #1720 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

Kingdom of Plants is amazing, really enjoyed it on 3010, no crosstalk/ghosting at all and it is visually stunning. AVATAR or HUGO, i wish they would have made these movies with many pop outs as these movies only have a few, besides HUGO has lots of crosstalk (known facts for LCD users) but AVATAR no crosstalk. Yesterday, i saw again a bit of Titanic again and I was not so impressed, tried to find out where is the best 3D but I could not, to me it is just a SO SO 2D to 3D conversion. I did not feel much of depth or pop outs as people are roaring on forums or blu-ray.com and giving its 3D as good as AVATAR or HUGO an so it make me crazy that why I do not see that much of 3D on my 3010 as others see.

I am with you on Titanic. I only watched the 1st disk so far but its a bit disappointing as many scenes are flat and the conversion while being one of the best in some shots, is not as great as the hype we hear ! I liked the conversion is other movies like John Carter or Wrath of Titans, may be these movies where made with 3D in mind while Titanic was not.
post #1721 of 1982
falafala, totally agreed and this makes me upset. May be people are trying to be spoon of James Cameron!!!. By the way did you find any better 3D glasses then Monsters? If you think there is one, can you post the link. Thanks
post #1722 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

falafala, totally agreed and this makes me upset. May be people are trying to be spoon of James Cameron!!!. By the way did you find any better 3D glasses then Monsters? If you think there is one, can you post the link. Thanks

I will have to revise my comments as the 3d in 2nd disk is awesome !

I briefly tried Panasonic 2nd gen glasses and they seem to be a lot better than ps3 and Epson glasses in terms of weight and tint. Didn't test the ghosting perf as I sold them off. So still using monsters as they eliminate ghosting for me but I hate the comfort aspect as they tend to be heavy and needs charging before every use ! I cant wait for glasses free 3d !
post #1723 of 1982
I watched the 3D version of Titanic on my new 3010 this weekend and was pretty blown away by the experience. I haven't seen the movie since it came out and even that was on a VHS tape so the 3D big-screen presentation was very impressive and quite a ride. The second disc/second half of the film was very intense, especially the ship cracking in half. Reference disc for sure, at least to me.
post #1724 of 1982
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Originally Posted by Sutter Cane View Post

I watched the 3D version of Titanic on my new 3010 this weekend and was pretty blown away by the experience.

if you are blown away with this then what happens to you when you watch IMAX 3Ds, Final Destination 4 and 5, Journeys and many many more. Is there any word invented so far more then "blown away". Yeah I understand that it is 15 years old movie and they did good job by converting it into 3D, that is all software flick and real pet is deserved by software engineer, not james cameron, he is just an investor in this regard, but still it cannot be categorized as so called "blown away" wordings if one has seen latest 3D movies then this 3D stands no where, but again it is nice to see TITANIC in this much clarity as in 3D. To me that is all. May be I have different perception towards such 3D visuals.
post #1725 of 1982
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Originally Posted by Sutter Cane View Post

Hello all,
I recently purchased a 3010 and have about 26 hours on it and have been scouring these forums looking for clues to this issue I quoted above. I've had this exact experience with the last few 3D blu-rays I've watched, the last two being Immortals and Hugo. Zero crosstalk for the first 30-45 minutes of the film and then almost instantly some very distracting ghosting appears. I've bounced around this thread and read quite a bit of it, but this is the only post I've found that mentions it occurring this way so far. I'm using the stock Epson glasses and the Sony BDP-S590 (latest firmware) player connected directly to the projector (not passing through a receiver).
I found the linked zip file to the latest 3010 firmware and plan to try to update it but does anyone else have something to add about this issue? I'm new to 3D projection but have done my research and read plenty about the crosstalk people have experienced with the 3010 but I'm surprised to see it occur the way it has for me; perfect picture and then it appearing halfway through a disc. Heat related? Should I call Epson? I just bought it was Best Buy, should I take it back to them to exchange? I'd hope to not have to send my week-old unit to Epson to be replaced with a refurb with who-knows-how-many hours already on the bulb..
Also, updating the firmware myself won't void the warranty will it?
thanks.
-DB

I saw that you're happier with the 'low brightness ' setting, but here's something you could try if you're an AVScientist.

Leave it in high/medium and watch a movie until the ghosting appears. Then switch to low and observe if the ghosting is reduced.
If it is, switch back to high/medium and see if it returned to the level it was at before.

This will tell you if it's heat or something else.

It's been covered in this thread before, but what the brightness setting does (as far as I know and have been told by Epson) is adjust the timing or "duty cycle" of the glasses. High brightness means the shutters are open longer allowing more light in (aka brightness) but also letting light from the previous frame for the other eye in as well. Low let's less light in, but hopefully eliminates the incorrect light much more than the correct light.

It's possible that if the ghosting dramatically changes an hour into operation, that the projector is inadvertently switching from one setting to another or that the timing is screwed up in another way.

I've had 4 3010's (two to test, one I wanted to keep, and the one I exchanged that one for) and the 3rd one was significantly worse in the crosstalk/ghosting department. However, I did notice that random switching of the brightness modes would sometimes eliminate a lot of the ghosting.

Another thing you could try would be to turn of the glasses on off. This would resynch them to whatever signal the projector is sending. In my experience, sometimes the glasses don't react very well to a new signal.
Edited by xhonzi - 9/20/12 at 3:04pm
post #1726 of 1982
^ Thanks for that reply, I did switch back to medium 3D brightness when I got Tron and the Imax Under the Sea discs two weeks ago and there was no ghosting at all in either, so as someone else pointed out, I'm thinking it was just the Hugo disc (and the Immortals disc showed some as well). Everything else I've watched in 3D including the new Titanic disc showed zero ghosting (that I noticed at least, and I was on the lookout for it) so I feel good about the unit right now. It's good to know that adjusting the brightness is actually altering the glasses and not the bulb output, thanks.
Looking forward to Avatar 3D and Prometheus in a few weeks!
post #1727 of 1982
xhonzi, Thanks for sharing your experience.smile.gif
post #1728 of 1982
anybody know when will the 3020 be released?? any group buy or special discount available any where?? thank you
post #1729 of 1982
every year new model, that is not really fare.
post #1730 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

every year new model, that is not really fare.

There doesn't seem to much drastic improvement in 2d. In 3d they are only enabling dynamic iris which I don't care as the blacks in 3d are already good for me. They are improving the 3d glasses in weight and making them rechargeable, which I don't care either as long as they did not add new controls to control the ghosting like monster glasses.

If there is no hardware change, may be we can upgrade the 3010fw with that of 3020 and get all the goodies smile.gif
post #1731 of 1982
so are there any good deal on the 3010 out there?? especially since the 3020 is comming out soon, I have been waiting for the 3010's price to come down.....
post #1732 of 1982
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

There doesn't seem to much drastic improvement in 2d. In 3d they are only enabling dynamic iris which I don't care as the blacks in 3d are already good for me. They are improving the 3d glasses in weight and making them rechargeable, which I don't care either as long as they did not add new controls to control the ghosting like monster glasses.
If there is no hardware change, may be we can upgrade the 3010fw with that of 3020 and get all the goodies smile.gif

PLUS no ghosting/crosstalk, I am sure they should have fixed that too which would make 3020 superior to ours. I am sure no any other product would have been returned to any company for replacement, the way 3010 was returned to epson.
post #1733 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

PLUS no ghosting/crosstalk, I am sure they should have fixed that too which would make 3020 superior to ours. I am sure no any other product would have been returned to any company for replacement, the way 3010 was returned to epson.

I seriously doubt they would have done anything about it. If they just improved the glasses somehow, we can get the benefit from it too.
post #1734 of 1982
I think they are now use RF systemél like Monster
post #1735 of 1982
^^
If they shall be using RF like Monsters then how those new glasses shall be useful for 3010 owners as we do not have inbuilt RF emitter.
post #1736 of 1982
Hardly the right thread for this, but I'm sure someone here will thank me-

Target is supposedly selling Avengers 3D for $19.99 tomorrow. Their advertised price is $24.95, but it should ring up at $19.99.

That is all.
post #1737 of 1982
well, epson has given me a new 3010 because ive had too many problems with my tw3500 (aka 8100 in eua??) so lets hope its better and sharper, with no convergence issues, than my former epson and in 2d to be an upgrade....
Edited by shiseido - 9/27/12 at 10:18am
post #1738 of 1982
Epson's giving you a new 3020 when they come out?
post #1739 of 1982
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Originally Posted by MovieMonkey View Post

Epson's giving you a new 3020 when they come out?
unfortunly no (we dont have the 3020 here in portugal) it was a mistake biggrin.gif
im going to receive the 3010
post #1740 of 1982
Anyone interested in picking up a 3010 gregg has a deal this weekend ..works out to be about 30% off.
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