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post #1861 of 1982
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Originally Posted by rcjian View Post

After a lot of reading and second thinking. i finally bought this product two days ago! I bought it from Best Buy @1,309 $, not a bad deal! So for sure i'll be asking questions about 3010 in this thread, when i put this up!smile.gif

3010's price dropped for 100$ again from 1309$, and since its less than 30 days since i bought it, best buy refunded me the difference, im happy smile.gif
post #1862 of 1982
you can check the real hours in the secret menu.
post #1863 of 1982
Screen black out

Hi there. I got my 3010 for 2 weeks now. When I hook it up to the Popcorn Hour C-300 to play mkv files, the PJ blacks out every time the movie changes scenes. It blacks out for about a second or two then it comes back up again. Very annoying because at the end of the dark scenes it blacks out and when it comes back up again, a blast of bright light hurts your eyes. And when it blacks out there's noise like some mechanical parts are working. I suspected it was the auto iris and turned iris off but it didn't help. When I hook up the Popcorn Hour to the Vivitek HD1080 projector to test, the same files play fine without any disruption.

Anybody has experienced the same issue and what could be the fix? Thank you.
post #1864 of 1982
^^
I guess your iris is dyeing. Just go to menu and make it off and see how is the picture the. I dont use it since i purchased the projector. If you like it then call epson and they shall give you the replacement. Although you turned it off but still try again and again. its nothing but iris.
post #1865 of 1982
Forgive me if I'm not going to search through 63 pages of the thread, but did anyway have solid calibration settings posted in here as well as 3D calibration?
post #1866 of 1982
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Originally Posted by CaliCool View Post

Forgive me if I'm not going to search through 63 pages of the thread, but did anyway have solid calibration settings posted in here as well as 3D calibration?

These would be different for separate users, screens, lighting, wall colors etc. all influence the settings. But you might find a starting point here. http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/home-cinema-3010/calibration.php
post #1867 of 1982
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

These would be different for separate users, screens, lighting, wall colors etc. all influence the settings. But you might find a starting point here. http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/home-cinema-3010/calibration.php

I tried these and they did zilch to the image quality.

Someone did a thorough calibration and posted the settings here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1134710/epson-calibration-guide-1080-1080ub-6100-6500ub-7500ub/690#post_22411962

Try them and let us know smile.gif
post #1868 of 1982
I'm using an Epson 3010 with AT&T U-verse through an Onkyo 616 receiver. I was able to manually get the top/bottom 3D image to display on the projector, but when I put the glasses on, rather than seeing good 3D, I see two images, which is most noticed when words are on the screen.

Any ideas on how to correct?
post #1869 of 1982
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Originally Posted by rangersfan6830 View Post

I'm using an Epson 3010 with AT&T U-verse through an Onkyo 616 receiver. I was able to manually get the top/bottom 3D image to display on the projector, but when I put the glasses on, rather than seeing good 3D, I see two images, which is most noticed when words are on the screen.
Any ideas on how to correct?

I don't know if you already tried this, but you can go in the menu of the projector and under 3d select top-bottom (default is automatic)
post #1870 of 1982
Actually, I think you're seeing crosstalk (since you appear to have configured the Epson to show the OU 3D). If you're looking at "unauthorized" OU transfer of a 3D Blu-ray, those are sometimes not done well and can result in poor 3D. If that isn't the problem, then go into the menu's 3D section and set the glasses one step down (low/medium/high) in brightness. The lower the setting the shorter length of time the shutters are open, which can reduce crosstalk.
post #1871 of 1982
Guys I am green with envy and red with anger about how Epson lowballed us 3010 users by introducing 3020 in just one year. I don't care much about 3020 except for the cheap RF glasses it comes with.

I saw reviews stating that these glasses work with 3020...

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-4100GB-Active-Glasses-Models/product-reviews/B007K9P7H0/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Epson should release an RF emitter for 3010 so we can buy these as well!
post #1872 of 1982
I feel you falafala. But almost every projector manufacturer comes up with new models every year. Epson almost have a new model every year. Also we do have the option of cheap PS3 glasses. Its little expensive compared to samsung, but not bad.

Could I have waited for 3020, yes. But there is always something better on horizon. Best thing is to enjoy it. We have been enjoying 3D for close to a year whereas some folks are just getting into it. That's the trade off. smile.gif
post #1873 of 1982
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Originally Posted by adude View Post

I feel you falafala. But almost every projector manufacturer comes up with new models every year. Epson almost have a new model every year. Also we do have the option of cheap PS3 glasses. Its little expensive compared to samsung, but not bad.
Could I have waited for 3020, yes. But there is always something better on horizon. Best thing is to enjoy it. We have been enjoying 3D for close to a year whereas some folks are just getting into it. That's the trade off. smile.gif

well said! I forgot about PS3 glasses which are very close to these.

yes while rest of the world is debating if 3D is a fad, we have been enjoying 3010's awesomeness!
post #1874 of 1982
Folks

I used my Epson glasses after almost a year (remember I switched to Monstervision Rf 3D glasses to eliminate residual ghosting) and I found them to be as good as monsters with no ghosting what so ever!

May be the epson 3010 needs some ageing to eliminate the ghosting smile.gif

Also do any of you know if running n Dynamic mode will reduce the lamp life compared to Natural/Cinema mode?
post #1875 of 1982
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

Folks
I used my Epson glasses after almost a year (remember I switched to Monstervision Rf 3D glasses to eliminate residual ghosting) and I found them to be as good as monsters with no ghosting what so ever!
May be the epson 3010 needs some ageing to eliminate the ghosting smile.gif
Also do any of you know if running n Dynamic mode will reduce the lamp life compared to Natural/Cinema mode?

I'd hypothisize about 30%? This is just a guess based on reviews of the new 3020 model which indicated a 35% increase in lumens between eco and full power. I have the 3020 but it's so new there's not a lot of discussion about it yet so I've been monitoring this thread as well - Just in case anyone was wondering why I was piping up here. wink.gif
post #1876 of 1982
do you notice any ghosting on 3020 with the RF glasses? Iong ago I saw some in a few specific titles like IMAX mummies and Harry potter deathly hollows part1. Or more generally how many 3D titles have you watched and have you seen any telltale signs of ghosting?
post #1877 of 1982
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

do you notice any ghosting on 3020 with the RF glasses? Iong ago I saw some in a few specific titles like IMAX mummies and Harry potter deathly hollows part1. Or more generally how many 3D titles have you watched and have you seen any telltale signs of ghosting?

None at all on Amazing Spiderman. Another owner pointed out ghosting on the Thor menu which I duplicated, but did not notice ghosting on the menu background (the swirling galaxies and what-not). I checked out the first few minutes of Drive Angry (a lot of 3D depth on that flick) and didn't see any.
I'm planning on getting the new Resident Evil movie tomorrow and watching it all the way through and will report back.
post #1878 of 1982
Watched RE: Retribution on the Epson 3020. 3D Cinema mode, medium brightness on the Samsung SSG 4100 glasses. No crosstalk to speak of. I may have caught 2-3 instances but it was so faint and fleeting that it may been nothing.
post #1879 of 1982
To me 3D on 3010 is a dilemma. At one instant i see crosstalk and on another day on same movie I dont. Also, I see crosstalk sometimes even with Monsters but with Epson nothing and vice versa. But overall i have enjoyed 3010 over the year very very very much and I think unless this unit fades out, i am gonna use it and by that time may be Epson shall come up with something special worth to buy, but at the moment i do not see to get 3020 just because it is new model or have RF glasses or have little bit more lumens. I saw ER: retribution and it was mind hlowing with no crosstalk with Epson glasses. My monter's were not charged so i saw this movie with Epson's glasses with no crosstlk.

Falafala, do you see crosstalk on RE retribution?
post #1880 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

To me 3D on 3010 is a dilemma. At one instant i see crosstalk and on another day on same movie I dont. Also, I see crosstalk sometimes even with Monsters but with Epson nothing and vice versa. But overall i have enjoyed 3010 over the year very very very much and I think unless this unit fades out, i am gonna use it and by that time may be Epson shall come up with something special worth to buy, but at the moment i do not see to get 3020 just because it is new model or have RF glasses or have little bit more lumens. I saw ER: retribution and it was mind hlowing with no crosstalk with Epson glasses. My monter's were not charged so i saw this movie with Epson's glasses with no crosstlk.
Falafala, do you see crosstalk on RE retribution?

I am waiting for price to drop on RE-Retribution, but will let you know.

I have decided to use Epson glasses going forward unless I see ghosting, which I dont so far (fingers crossed). I loved my Monsters but off late I am sick of them as internal battery died within a few months and I have to be tethered to a USB source, which is very inconvenient.
post #1881 of 1982
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

I am waiting for price to drop on RE-Retribution, but will let you know.
I have decided to use Epson glasses going forward unless I see ghosting, which I dont so far (fingers crossed). I loved my Monsters but off late I am sick of them as internal battery died within a few months and I have to be tethered to a USB source, which is very inconvenient.

Also, truly, do you see any real and worth charm in replacing your 3010 with 3020?
post #1882 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

Also, truly, do you see any real and worth charm in replacing your 3010 with 3020?

I heard of the following improvements of 3020 over 3010

  1. Cheaper RF glasses (no evidence that these eliminate ghosting)
  2. No IR interference to other remotes
  3. 2D->3D conversion
  4. IRIS enabled in 3D

of which I dont care for #3 or #4. The 1st two are useful but not worth the cost of replacement. My 3010 has over 800 hrs on bulb and its still as bright as I can remember.

I guess I will wait for a 4K 3D PJ for an upgrade smile.gif
post #1883 of 1982
I have the 3010 and never saw crosstalk.
post #1884 of 1982
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Originally Posted by kevinmscs View Post

I have the 3010 and never saw crosstalk.

Good for you smile.gif

I am seeing ghosting with my epsons still on movies like IMAX Rescue. Looks like I need to go back to my monsters.
post #1885 of 1982
I am having major ghosting issues on my 3020 so Epson is sending me a brand new one....... I am really disappointed about this.... I was hoping this problem would of been taken care of for this years model. I hope the new one is ghost free.
post #1886 of 1982
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Originally Posted by Lt.Aldo.Raine View Post

I am having major ghosting issues on my 3020 so Epson is sending me a brand new one....... I am really disappointed about this.... I was hoping this problem would of been taken care of for this years model. I hope the new one is ghost free.

The fact that you saw on unit means they did JACK to fix this.....I assumed that they would not brag about it if they indeed fix it on 3020 as it meant they were acknowledging it on 3010, but looks like RF glasses are only good for IR interference reduction and lowered prices. Anyway hope you have a better experience with the replacement.

Could you please do us a favor next time you talk yo Epson and ask them if they plan to release an RF emitter for their new RF glasses that one can use with 3010?
post #1887 of 1982
IMO if 3010 and 3020 would not show any ghosting then no body shall buy models like 5010/5020 or 6010!!!!! Epson purposely giving random ghosting on these low price units for a purpose. Stupid though. falafala, i saw rescue on my crosstalk producing Epson and luckily i dont remember that I saw any ghosting/crosstalk. My unit is strange, it gives crosstalk only in low brightness/contrast scenes. I do not get ghosting on bright scenes.
post #1888 of 1982
I have some concerns and would like some guidance and clarification if I am doing something wrong.

My concern pertains to playing 3D Blu-Ray ISO rips in total media 5 via an HTPC and epson 3010. All routed from my Denon 3311Ci AVR. My video card is an ATI 6570.

So I have all my movies ripped 1:1 using any dvd hd and I use media browser to display them. From media browser, movies play in Total media WMC plugin.

When I play a 3D movie, it plays just fine with no skips or stuttering, however, when I check the feed being sent to the projector, it shows that it is receiving a 720P signal instead of 1080P when in 3D mode.
Checking the signal my AVR receives, also shows that it is receiving a 720P signal.

However, when I check the signal within total media player itself, it shows a 1080P signal is playing.

This occurs for all 3D movies, latest that I tested was finding nemo in 3D.

I have attached pictures.

Isn't the projector supposed to show a 1080p signal like it does in non 3D mode?

Thanks for any help or suggestions.


post #1889 of 1982
Which version of TMT5 you are using. My setup is similar to yours in a way i.e., HTPC but with nVidia GT 520 attached to Denon AVR 991 (which is same like 3311) further attached to 3010. If i use 87 build of TMT 5 then at 3D mode it switches to 3D 720p and so projector/avr will show 720 but if i use latest build TMT5.3.146 or 172 then it gives proper 3D 1080p signals. Anyways to me TMT is not fine as compare to functionalities of PDVD12 so i use PDVD12 without any issue. TMT for 2D playback.
post #1890 of 1982
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Originally Posted by mankhan View Post

Which version of TMT5 you are using. My setup is similar to yours in a way i.e., HTPC but with nVidia GT 520 attached to Denon AVR 991 (which is same like 3311) further attached to 3010. If i use 87 build of TMT 5 then at 3D mode it switches to 3D 720p and so projector/avr will show 720 but if i use latest build TMT5.3.146 or 172 then it gives proper 3D 1080p signals. Anyways to me TMT is not fine as compare to functionalities of PDVD12 so i use PDVD12 without any issue. TMT for 2D playback.

Thank you mankhan for your comments.


I am using version 5.3.1.146 to TMT5. I believe the last version before cinavia was implemented. That is weird that for you 5.3.1.146 allows you to play 3D in 1080P and not me.

Now my only concern would be if my HDMI are not high speed.

Now my understanding was that if an HDMI cable can play 3D then it can play 3D at any resolution.

Am I wrong in that assumption? So that would mean that an HDMI cable can play 3D in 720p but not have the bandwidth to play 1080p.

I will look into PDVD12. Would you happen to know the last version before cinavia was implemented?

Thanks again for your help

Update:

I tried to use Powerdvd 12 version 12.0.1905.56 and I have the same issue as TMT5. It only plays 3D ISO rips in 720p.

When I go into settings for 3D to manually change it to 1080p, I get an error. I attached a picture of the error message.

Edited by khalid7412002 - 12/31/12 at 7:51pm
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