$1500 subwoofer request - 19x17x18ft high.

Epik Empires is hard to beat especially the price of a pair. I think you'd be hard press to find another sub that is within budget that you could get pairs of.

You said in another thread you had SVS's and upgraded to something else so the PB12NSD is the only one in your price range for a pair.

Axiom EP350 under performs for its price.

Elemental Designs has an on going amp and customer service problem. Wouldn't recommend them.

Rythmik fv15hp. Piano black.

Dual subs sounds like a good idea. From what I hear it makes a substantial improvement, especially if you have the space.

If i were looking with your budget, that's what I would get. Oh wait. I did.

That or a svs pb12-plus

+1 on both of those suggestions.



Well that sucks. eD always has some kind of problem with their subs, but their customer service was impeccable. Now even that's become problematic? Sigh...

You buy from Rythmik directly or through Ascend Acoustics.

Have you noticed how many Rythmik subs are listed as "back order" lately? Some even say "back order until further notice". Literally half of them have one of those designations. Wonder if they're having some problems.

There are no problems. They ran out of amps. I got the last one they had in stock.

The "problem" is probably staying up with demand. Nice problem to have. Doubt its with the quality of their product.

Dual empires would probably sound nice. You have an amp? You could get an unpowered Captivator, a pair of the soon to be released CHT vented subs, a few eD pairs, etc. Amp would be another $300 I guess.

I want to hear the empires at some point, they get solid reviews.

That's a nice looking room! -

Dual Epiks are my vote of the subwoofers I have heard where you could go dual for about $1500 ( a smidge more) and still keep a real nice professional look. They won't feel as low as the SVS you've owned before, but they'll be cleaner for music, and I think they are pretty much incapable of making a bad sound on real world program material. They preformed admirably in the KC subwoofer meet, not the best, but still very good considering their price. You didn't state you are looking to knock the house down with output, and you stated you thought the SVS lacked a bit in accuracy --- so I think the Empires are a great choice both functionally and cosmetically.

My room is a 16 x 16 x 18 open to kitchen and open to the rest of the home especially at the ceilings level. Even though I have a small ported sub I get significant bass response (down-firing, front slot ported, wooden floors).

You did not mention the clearance between the floor and your window ledge/sill. I presume that's where your subs will seat possibly for best response (based on corner recommendations!).

I think it really depends on the room acoustics. You should probably consider bringing home a sub or two from your local stores (request demo units) to try before you buy something.

If you're looking to get ported kind, look at the Outlaw LFM-1 EX likely to go on sale this Monday - you could get two based on the sale price of $550 delivered! Very WAF friendly!

http://www.facebook.com/notes/outlaw...50343602058702

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post14751457 (scroll back for EX pictures!)

For sealed, I would suggest you look at the HSU ULS-15, it is one incredible sub!

Good luck with whatever you end up with

Agreed....i have a feeling we may have a new "King of the hill" in subwoofers once Rythmk gets big enough and can keep up with demand. I have seen a lot of other posts on different boards dumping thier current SVS/HSU/Epik subs for Rythmik.

Right now they are a sleeping giant!
And guess what?.. Im a Hsu sub owner!

I gotta call it the way i see it!
"Oh no...am i being seduced by the Rythmik DARKSIDE?" ;-0

Pete suggested the uls over the vtf15 for a room that size?

If you had a conquest in that large room before and you go with a single ULS-15 now you'll be disappointed with it's output. It's clean and digs very deep but it's not an output monster.
You'll need at least 2 (more like 4) to get anywhere close to the Conquest's output below 25 hz

The ULS-15 won't have as much output as the VTF15h, and in a room like that you will need as much output as you can get. I would go with the VTF15h in that situation.

My room is very similar to yours - 22x21x18 and open to the upstairs hallway, kitchen, and dining room. I looked hard at a pair of empires, pair of VTF-15H's, pair of FV15HPs, the CHT 18.T duo, and the captivator.

I was 99% set on a pair of VTF's until a pair of the CHT subs popped up locally. I gave them a shot and was very impressed with how they filled my room with powerful bass. I have them left corner loaded now and running off a bridged EP4000.

In your situation I would definitely go with a pair of subs of some sort. With such a hard room it will be hard to fill evenly - the few exceptions probably being a cap or submersive.