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post #781 of 1353
6/28/12 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by Grifo View Post

do you mean the trinnov mc, don't you?

Correct
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post #782 of 1353
6/28/12 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

If you want the pro unit with 24 channels or more there is no aes ebu solution but MADI. Try finding a decent 16 channel dac like the ada-8 from prism with madi inputs, good luck!

This will not be an issue for consumer applications of the pro units, which will be 95% 12 channel or less. Also, the vast majority of consumers will use the internal Trinnov DACs. Since thay are the same DACs as in the $40K ADA reference that are probably not that shabby. The beauty of the digital outs is you can use a high grade DAC just for your 2 channel system, and seamlessly integrate with the Trinnov DACs for multi channel.
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post #783 of 1353
6/29/12 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by abone View Post

You may be pleased to know that Datasat will shortly be releasing a choice of high end power amps ( made by the same people as mark levinson) with matching facias.

Any inside info on whether these Datasat "made by ATI" amps can be tightly stacked in a rack? (Either cool running digtal, or front-to-back forced air cooled like the JBL Synthesis [made by ATI] and Classe CT-series).
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post #784 of 1353
6/29/12 at 4:44pm
Class A / B so not cool running, the same facia style as the RS20i
so rack mountable with ears.
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post #785 of 1353
7/3/12 at 3:19am
A good video on Datasat the company and their future plans:

http://www.avforums.com/tv/
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post #786 of 1353
7/3/12 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by stephenbr View Post

A good video on Datasat the company and their future plans:

http://www.avforums.com/tv/
They mentioned working with Barco and also mentioned that they will eventually implement height channels. The description of their height speaker layout sounds exactly like Auro 3D, which is owned by Barco.
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post #787 of 1353
7/3/12 at 9:05am
Thread Starter 
They are technology partners in the Auro 3D commercial application. Datasat builds the processors for Auro 3D.

What I found the most interesting was that the video was entirely people from the UK office, none from the CA office (those that were DTS Digital Cinema- as in those that designed the AP20/RS20i). Now that I've experienced the Dirac technology in a commercial space- I completely understand their use of that technology for the AP20; it does give them very consistent results from auditorium to auditorium- and that's very good for Datasat.

Until yesterday, I hadn't really understood why Datasat didn't choose to go with Trinnov for correction vs. Dirac but that's because I've been looking at this from the perspective of what gives you the best performance. When you consider that for Datasat the optimum is to have every venue that carries their name, be it commercial or consumer, to have the same or at least very consistent performance- that makes their reputation better, and serves their product better.

Dirac has suddenly been crystalized for me as an extremely useful and valuable tool for a manufacturer to have. In short, I get it now.

Dan
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post #788 of 1353
7/3/12 at 9:06am
The Cinema engine that is BARCO's AURO 3-D is the Datasat AP24. The AP24 is built upon the AP20 Cinema chassis, as is the Datasat RS20i.

AP24 ...
http://www.barco.com/en/products-solutions/3d-sound/3d-sound-technology-for-digital-cinema.aspx

AP20 ...
http://www.datasatdigital.com/cinema/products/ap20.php

RS20i ...
http://www.datasatdigital.com/consumer/products/rs20i.php/
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post #789 of 1353
7/3/12 at 9:25am
Thread Starter 
So I just read the actual thread/article over at avforms... sorry for the brain fart: when you're a UK based forum, and you go the UK offices, you interview the UK staff. duh

again, apologies.

Dan
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post #790 of 1353
7/3/12 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

.. I hadn't really understood why Datasat didn't choose to go with Trinnov for correction vs. Dirac but that's because I've been looking at this from the perspective of what gives you the best performance. When you consider that for Datasat the optimum is to have every venue that carries their name, be it commercial or consumer, to have the same or at least very consistent performance- that makes their reputation better, and serves their product better.

Yes! A consistent experience from venue to venue was always the design goal for the AP20 and now that vision has been extended into your home with the RS20i.

The owner of an RS20i will have an experience true to what the film maker intended.
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post #791 of 1353
7/3/12 at 9:41am
Thread Starter 
Sorry about that Carl, apparently I couldn't quite see the forest for the trees through this endeavor.

Your second statement was extremely evident to me when I used the RS20i in our theater.

Dan
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post #792 of 1353
7/4/12 at 1:02am
Love the Datasat trailer.....can I get that trailer as a download?
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post #793 of 1353
7/4/12 at 8:34pm
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Originally Posted by chrapladm View Post

Love the Datasat trailer.....can I get that trailer as a download?

Oh yea,

Google, "Datasat trailer". You will find it.
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post #794 of 1353
7/11/12 at 5:14am
I have just installed my Datasat RS20i. This is only a temporary instal in which I am using a Gallo SA amplifier for some 2 channel listening while I wait for my new 7 channel amp. The Datasat is replacing a Lexicon MC12 with Audyssey SEQ.

What do I think.........?

WOW

A very significant improvement - so much better clarity and detail, so much more revealed while remaining warm and beguiling!

I have yet to run Dirac and now I am so impatient to try a movie in multi channel glory.
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post #795 of 1353
7/11/12 at 2:16pm
Hmm...this is sounding more and more tempting. Let us know your impressions, Stephen, once you have it fully engaged in multi-channel.
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post #796 of 1353
7/11/12 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by stephenbr View Post

I have just installed my Datasat RS20i. This is only a temporary instal in which I am using a Gallo SA amplifier for some 2 channel listening while I wait for my new 7 channel amp. The Datasat is replacing a Lexicon MC12 with Audyssey SEQ.
What do I think.........?
WOW
A very significant improvement - so much better clarity and detail, so much more revealed while remaining warm and beguiling!
I have yet to run Dirac and now I am so impatient to try a movie in multi channel glory.

There were plenty of skeptics when I said the datasat in Carl's room was the giant killer in CES 2010. 2.5 years later...biggrin.gif
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post #797 of 1353
7/12/12 at 2:34am
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

The question is when?

I ask because of Albiorix...
375

377

The screen rolls in between the speakers....
700
Edited by CINERAMAX - 7/12/12 at 3:01am
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post #798 of 1353
7/13/12 at 11:51am
Peter,

Get up with Drew Brees from the New Orleans Saints, he just signed a 5 year 100 million dollar deal with 60 mill guaranteed!
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post #799 of 1353
7/13/12 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by mmiles View Post

Peter,
Get up with Drew Brees from the New Orleans Saints, he just signed a 5 year 100 million dollar deal with 60 mill guaranteed!

The top hedge funds managers make that in less than a month.....
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post #800 of 1353
7/14/12 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by chrapladm View Post

Love the Datasat trailer.....can I get that trailer as a download?

I was just about to ask that same question. Awesome trailer. I couldn't find it though. Lots of crap websites claiming to download it but you get led into rat holes. Anyone find a legit site to download this trailer?
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post #801 of 1353
7/14/12 at 12:52pm
http://vimeo.com/25151530
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post #802 of 1353
7/14/12 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by chrapladm View Post

http://vimeo.com/25151530

Thanks! Shame it's not multichannel.
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post #803 of 1353
7/14/12 at 1:41pm
If you google datasat uk, contact them via email and you'll be able to ask them to send you the trailer on blu ray or mpeg4.

But prepare yourself. It has some of the best mixed down surround channels and most mind blowing sub line that will get the most hardened bass fanatics all giddy.

Needless to say this is now the first thing I play to ensure my system is up to scratch and will always be on the dem loop.
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post #804 of 1353
7/14/12 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by djnickuk View Post

If you google datasat uk, contact them via email and you'll be able to ask them to send you the trailer on blu ray or mpeg4.
But prepare yourself. It has some of the best mixed down surround channels and most mind blowing sub line that will get the most hardened bass fanatics all giddy.
Needless to say this is now the first thing I play to ensure my system is up to scratch and will always be on the dem loop.

cool. I'm going to write them now. What's the US retail supposed to be on this unit? I couldn't find anything on this thread.
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post #805 of 1353
7/16/12 at 9:46am
Thread Starter 
16k is MSRP, I thought I'd posted that early-on, but apparently not.

Dan
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post #806 of 1353
7/16/12 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

16k is MSRP ... Dan

MSRP for the RS20i has recently been raised to $18,500 US. However that is a suggested price and dealers are at liberty to adjust the sale price downward.
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post #807 of 1353
7/16/12 at 10:09am
Thread Starter 
18.5k inclusive of Dirac kit?

Dan
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post #808 of 1353
7/16/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

18.5k inclusive of Dirac kit?
Dan

Nope. The Dirac Live Intallers kit is extra.
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post #809 of 1353
7/16/12 at 7:30pm
I've contacted Datasat. The are going to send me some info on local dealers. Sending me the Bluray version of the trailer as well. smile.gif

What's the retail on the Dirac kit set at?
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post #810 of 1353
7/17/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

I've contacted Datasat. The are going to send me some info on local dealers. Sending me the Bluray version of the trailer as well. smile.gif
What's the retail on the Dirac kit set at?

Last I knew the Dirac Live Installer Kit was $2,500 and came with 2 days of training in Chatsworth, CA. It was meant for dealers and professional installers.
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Edited by Carl_Huff - 7/17/12 at 8:29am
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