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post #241 of 569
Watching last weeks episode from Amazon now as my DIRECTV dvr missed ...
post #242 of 569
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Originally Posted by dfergie View Post

Watching last weeks episode from Amazon now as my DIRECTV dvr missed ...

I think I would have waited, it replays Sat @ 7:45am and Sunday @ 8:00am. If it was free at Amazon, I would probably go for it, but I'd be hard pressed to pay for it. Of course that's just me.
post #243 of 569
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

I think I would have waited, it replays Sat @ 7:45am and Sunday @ 8:00am. If it was free at Amazon, I would probably go for it, but I'd be hard pressed to pay for it. Of course that's just me.

I think it's "free" if you have "Amazon Prime" ($75/yr) which also includes free shipping on all orders, but I'm not sure about that.
post #244 of 569
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I think it's "free" if you have "Amazon Prime" ($75/yr) which also includes free shipping on all orders, but I'm not sure about that.
New episodes are not free on Amazon. As a matter of fact, no episodes are offered through the Prime service for free. Netflix does stream last season though. I would have waited and dvr'd later myself.
post #245 of 569
If I waited it would be Sept 8th or so at the earliest before I would have seen "Slaughterhouse" ... first opportunity.
post #246 of 569
It was an interesting episode, nobody without some kind of "sin" in that community....
post #247 of 569
I really wish they had kept the storyline between the brothers and the Germans go more then 1 episode.

And then to feed Schmidt to the pigs. Yeah never seen that before.

I like the show but it could be so much better.
post #248 of 569
Excellent episode. Wow. This show shines so much more when the lead character can actually BE the lead and they focus on him.
post #249 of 569
Bohannon owns this show and as long as they keep the story focused around him it's a winner (to me). Elam, on the other hand, I could care less about. I can't figure out what he's supposed to be doing now, and apparently neither can Bohannon.
post #250 of 569
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Bohannon owns this show and as long as they keep the story focused around him it's a winner (to me). Elam, on the other hand, I could care less about. I can't figure out what he's supposed to be doing now, and apparently neither can Bohannon.

Elam is in charge of security (and keeping the freedmen in line). Bohannan is the railroad foreman.
post #251 of 569
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Elam is in charge of security (and keeping the freedmen in line). Bohannan is the railroad foreman.
I think the point of the post you replied to is that he doesn't seem to even be doing that if you take into account the last couple of episodes. Durant left him back at camp when he went to go get Bohannan, he hasn't been sent out to fend off the Indian attacks and he got his butt kicked by guys who have zero respect for his authority that will now have guns provided by the railroad. Even after he cheated with Eva and got her pregnant, Toole didn't even have enough respect for him to even try to beat him up, much less kill him like Elam feared.

He appears so castrated now, it's surprising he could get anyone pregnant.

Elam these last couple of episodes is starting to feel like Ben Linus in the last season of Lost. Any day now, I expect him to go from cool Mr. Ecko to getting killed by being thrown into a tree.

Even The Swede is a bit disappointing right now, considering how badass he started out. However, he still at least seems to be plotting something.

On the other hand, Lilly seems to be coming into her own and is getting more control over Durant. She might be running the railroad by the time it's finished.
post #252 of 569
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I think the point of the post you replied to is that he doesn't seem to even be doing that if you take into account the last couple of episodes. Durant left him back at camp when he went to go get Bohannan, he hasn't been sent out to fend off the Indian attacks and he got his butt kicked by guys who have zero respect for his authority that will now have guns provided by the railroad. Even after he cheated with Eva and got her pregnant, Toole didn't even have enough respect for him to even try to beat him up, much less kill him like Elam feared.
He appears so castrated now, it's surprising he could get anyone pregnant.

I'm not one of the writers, but I suspect there is method to that madness. Stay tuned for the "rehabilitation" - and re-badassiness - of Elam Ferguson. Bohannan has been knocked down a few times as well and he keeps bouncing back.
post #253 of 569
So within 5 minutes we went from Durant wouldn't survivie the ride back to Chicago and that switches to well the bleeding has stopped let's put him on the train.

What??

I don't think the pastor survives past the end of this season. Some big reckoning is coming.
post #254 of 569
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Originally Posted by jamieva View Post

So within 5 minutes we went from Durant wouldn't survivie the ride back to Chicago and that switches to well the bleeding has stopped let's put him on the train.
What??
I don't think the pastor survives past the end of this season. Some big reckoning is coming.

I think the train trip to Chicago is Durants only hope .. I don't know how long it takes to get from, what, Nebraska to Chicago by train back then, but I would sure think infection would set in ..
post #255 of 569
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I think the train trip to Chicago is Durants only hope .. I don't know how long it takes to get from, what, Nebraska to Chicago by train back then, but I would sure think infection would set in ..

Infection is a given regardless, there were no antibiotics at that time.
post #256 of 569
Perhaps the poultice of clay and whatever else was in it helped to not only stop the bleeding but also to draw out some of the infection.
post #257 of 569
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Infection is a given regardless, there were no antibiotics at that time.

Yes, that's my point .. infection / bullet next to spine / spleen shred / although it's TV and anything can happen, Durants survival if this were real life would likely be a slim chance ..
post #258 of 569
It's TV so his chances of dying are slim, I would assume it's a cliffhanger for season 3.

In real life, that guy dies.
post #259 of 569
I really enjoyed this episode. The writers threw exciting stuff at us with both hands. I think the Reverend and the Swede's weird but dangerous relationship is interesting. Once again Bohannan proved that he is the toughest man around. I had a hard time deciding whether those who accused Elam of "cowering next to a boxcar" during the holdup really did just misinterpret the facts, were influenced by racism, or some combination of the two.

I feel sorrier and sorrier for poor Lily. First the love of her life is killed by Indians, then her husband's relatives accuse Lily of having caused her husband's death. Finally, Lily has found it necessary to enter a sexual relationship with Durant in order to secure her position with the railroad. Lily, like the orphans in Annie, has "a hard knocks life."
post #260 of 569
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I feel sorrier and sorrier for poor Lily. First the love of her life is killed by Indians, then her husband's relatives accuse Lily of having caused her husband's death. Finally, Lily has found it necessary to enter a sexual relationship with Durant in order to secure her position with the railroad. Lily, like the orphans in Annie, has "a hard knocks life."

Women in general had it tough back in those days .. I don't know if she found it necessary to start a relationship with Durant or not .. she seemed to have ingrained herself into the flow of things pretty well before she hooked up with Durant .. I hope at some point she ends up with Bohannan ..
post #261 of 569
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Women in general had it tough back in those days .. I don't know if she found it necessary to start a relationship with Durant or not .. she seemed to have ingrained herself into the flow of things pretty well before she hooked up with Durant .. I hope at some point she ends up with Bohannan ..
Aw shucks, I think we all hope that happens. smile.gif
post #262 of 569
Her character is way too smart for the likes of Bohannan, and despite the attraction she should know better. Not that this ever makes any difference, but they are certainly not going to ride off into the sunset together.
post #263 of 569
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Once again Bohannan proved that he is the toughest man around. I had a hard time deciding whether those who accused Elam of "cowering next to a boxcar" during the holdup really did just misinterpret the facts, were influenced by racism, or some combination of the two.
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Women in general had it tough back in those days .. I don't know if she found it necessary to start a relationship with Durant or not .. she seemed to have ingrained herself into the flow of things pretty well before she hooked up with Durant .. I hope at some point she ends up with Bohannan ..

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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

Aw shucks, I think we all hope that happens. smile.gif

Yeah Elam has it pretty bad..no where to turn..it'll get worse because of the pregnancy..

Bohannan still can handle all situations...I wonder if he's done with the revenge plot.

It seemes like Bohannan and Lily will hook-up at some point...
post #264 of 569
Yep, I think it's obvious that Lily will end up with Cullen based on all we've seen so far. Agree that Durant surviving that shot with the doc's description of what happened was slim, but it's TV and he's the owner so he's not gonna die.
post #265 of 569
Well, the real Durant, didn't die until 1885...so unless the show is rewriting history in a big way, he should be around for a bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_C._Durant

Really liking this show so far.
post #266 of 569
Wow, I thought I was watching a Sam Peckinpah movie last night. I guess some questions were answered about the future of Lily and Durant. And did anybody other than me see the similarity of the ending of last night's show with the time on Lonesome Dove when Jake Spoon was hanged saying, "I'd damn set rather be hung by my friends than a bunch of strangers."
post #267 of 569
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

Wow, I thought I was watching a Sam Peckinpah movie last night. I guess some questions were answered about the future of Lily and Durant. And did anybody other than me see the similarity of the ending of last night's show with the time on Lonesome Dove when Jake Spoon was hanged saying, "I'd damn set rather be hung by my friends than a bunch of strangers."

Tthis episode was indeed particularly bloody. Hadn't thought about the similarity between the way Doc Whitehead met his end at the hands of Bohannan and the scene in Lonesome Dove in which Call and McCrae hang Jake Spoon but I agree that it is there. Thought the Hell on Wheels scene, although beautifully acted and directed, was toweringly preposterous, as was the preacher's end at the hands of his foster son, Joseph. What the hell, though,this is television and I'll be here until the bitter end.smile.gif
post #268 of 569

Speaking of Doc Whitehead's execution. They had stopped atop the hill within view of the troops. After the shot the scene depicted was in a hollow.

post #269 of 569
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Originally Posted by Garrett Adams View Post

Speaking of Doc Whitehead's execution. They had stopped atop the hill within view of the troops. After the shot the scene depicted was in a hollow.

Speaking further of Doc Whitehead, while listening to several long conversations Doc had with Bohannan, I realized that the southern accent of the actor who played Doc, Grainger Hines, was so authentic that he almost had to be an honest to goodness southern boy. Sure enough, a little online research revealed that Hines is a South Carolina native. Anyway, I thought his performances as Doc were wonderful, particularly in the last couple of episodes.
post #270 of 569
Poor Doc Whitehead. He had probably the clearest moral voice of any character in the show. Granted, he shouldn't have fallen in with the gang, but options for southerners, especially those who served in the Confederate Army, were severely limited at war's end. And Bohannan lost another chunk of his soul having to kill one of his few remaining friends. Thought that scene was very powerful, and the shootout in the previous episode was very "Peckinpah-ish" as Jim mentioned above. This has become such a good show on every level.

OTOH, I thought the Federal troops allowing Bohannan to execute their prisoner was a stretch. Wouldn't there have had to have been a trial, even in those days?
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