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post #151 of 570
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu86 View Post

I'm sure Jack can expand on this answer, but the main thing you'd get from an ep950 and not from an ep600 is playback of 3D bluray rips.

/\\/\\/\\ This is from early in the thread /\\/\\/\\

Is this correct? Was this just the G1 EP600's? The Micca website lists 3d frame-packed capability. Can the EP600 G2 stream ripped 3D Blu-Ray .iso's and folders over a LAN?
post #152 of 570
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Originally Posted by Bobkbusch View Post

/\\/\\/\\ This is from early in the thread /\\/\\/\\

Is this correct? Was this just the G1 EP600's? The Micca website lists 3d frame-packed capability. Can the EP600 G2 stream ripped 3D Blu-Ray .iso's and folders over a LAN?

You are correct, that only applies to the G1 EP600's. I made that post before the EP600 G2 was even announced, the G2 has the same chip as the EP950, therefore it's capable of 3D playback.
post #153 of 570
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu86 View Post

You are correct, that only applies to the G1 EP600's. I made that post before the EP600 G2 was even announced, the G2 has the same chip as the EP950, therefore it's capable of 3D playback.

Thanks! This player just made my short list...
post #154 of 570
FYI, I loaded the new 1.0.3.9 software onto my HiMedia HD900A (using recovery mode) and it does not change the frame rate for any of the problematic video modes. This may or may not mean anything since it is cross-flashed onto another, albeit similar, product; but it makes me suspicious that nothing is fixed here.

1080p@59.94Hz 2D sources play back at 60.000Hz.
1080p@23.976Hz 2D sources play back at 60.000Hz when "1080p 24Hz" is off.
1080p@23.976Hz 2D sources play back at 24.000Hz when "1080p 24Hz" is on.
1080p@23.976Hz 3D sources play back at 24.000Hz.
post #155 of 570
Hmm, if your findings also apply to EP600, I'm pissed. Expecting this player from Amazon to replace my early production run HD900B.
post #156 of 570
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Hmm, if your findings also apply to EP600, I'm pissed. Expecting this player from Amazon to replace my early production run HD900B.

Yours will be a G2 so it will have the frame rate fix in it according to Jack. Please post your experience as I am considering ordering the E600 G2 also. Thanks.
post #157 of 570
I ordered my EP600 G2 yesterday from amazon after some confirmation from Jack. This gives me 30 days to make sure it works as advertised...otherwise off she goes.
post #158 of 570
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Originally Posted by Sarcoptic View Post

I ordered my EP600 G2 yesterday from amazon after some confirmation from Jack. This gives me 30 days to make sure it works as advertised...otherwise off she goes.

Let us know how it goes.

Jack quick question:

Does the EP600 G2 / 950 have a jukebox? Or is it possible to use a 3rd party jukebox?
post #159 of 570
May be able crossflash to OllyP's custom HiMedia HD900B firmware with YAMJ. But, it only supports locally connected media, so not media on a home server. On top of this, setting up YAMJ via OllyP's custom firmware is no easy task.

Believe EP950 and EP600 G2 support basic folder.jpg or moviename.jpg cover art with their stock firmware, but there too only for locally connected media.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
post #160 of 570
I would really like to buy a EP600 G2 but live in the UK - would I be able to order from the Micca store or are there any distributors in the UK?
post #161 of 570
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Originally Posted by HokeySmoke View Post

FYI, I loaded the new 1.0.3.9 software onto my HiMedia HD900A (using recovery mode) and it does not change the frame rate for any of the problematic video modes. This may or may not mean anything since it is cross-flashed onto another, albeit similar, product; but it makes me suspicious that nothing is fixed here.

1080p@59.94Hz 2D sources play back at 60.000Hz.
1080p@23.976Hz 2D sources play back at 60.000Hz when "1080p 24Hz" is off.
1080p@23.976Hz 2D sources play back at 24.000Hz when "1080p 24Hz" is on.
1080p@23.976Hz 3D sources play back at 24.000Hz.

How are you checking the playback frame rate? Just curious.
post #162 of 570
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Originally Posted by Jack@Micca View Post

How are you checking the playback frame rate? Just curious.

I can't speak for anybody else, but the way I check it is by using a TV that will display the current actual input frame rate. This is usually invoked by "info" or some like key-press while playing. Not every TV will display info about the actual input frame rate, many will not. Maybe most will not.

It does seem that if a previous 9xx series firmware swapped the actual output from 24 to 23.976, that such ability does not have to be etched in the silicon.

What probably needs to be done is to add some sort of logic to set the mode based on the input file. For blu-ray, the spec is clear - it should be easy. For other containers (like mp4) there are multiple locations were that metadata can be stored, and sometimes it is a bit confusing because different muxers can mess this data up. I don't really understand how it all works, especially with variable frame rate settings.
post #163 of 570
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Originally Posted by Jack@Micca View Post
How are you checking the playback frame rate? Just curious.
I did it two ways. The first was simply looking at it with known content and noticing the frame skips. The second, in order to help convince the skeptics, was to use an HDMI analyzer (which I just completed). I've attached the generated reports.

I also noticed simple things like the fact that the signal did not re-lock when going from the menu to video content. This tells me that the frame rate did not change.

 

Quantum Data - Timing Report-MenuHD900A_Micca1.0.3.9.pdf 109.185546875k . file

 

Quantum Data - Timing Report-1080p59.94HD900A_Micca1.0.3.9.pdf 109.234375k . file

 

Quantum Data - Timing Report-1080p23.9761080p24On3D_HD900A_Micca1.0.3.9.pdf 109.4423828125k . file

 

Quantum Data - Timing Report-1080p23.9761080p24On_HD900A_Micca1.0.3.9.pdf 109.7353515625k . file

 

Quantum Data - Timing Report-1080p23.976HD900A_Micca1.0.3.9.pdf 109.35546875k . file
post #164 of 570
Well for what its worth...my W600+ 3D projector played 2D files at the 23.976 with 24hz on in the menus...the projector reported the image displayed as 23hz...this was a brand new EP600 G2 that came from amazon today and immediately updated to 1.0.3.9. During 3D playback the projector only outputs 720p so the files ran at 119hz via what the projector reported with 24hz on displaying the 3D image. From my naked eye I could not see any sort of stutter. Perhaps I am immune or perhaps the issue has really been resolved. Now wasn't there a way to select a playlist off the iso in order to play back the right movie? Thanks!
post #165 of 570
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Originally Posted by Jack@Micca View Post

Hi,

It will not support >2TB drives over USB, or USB 3.0 drives. The large drive support is limited to SATA connection, either external in the case of the EP600, or internal in case of the EP950.

Jack,
The EP600 G1's USB 2.0 ports do support >2.2TB external USB 3.0 drives. I can confirm this with a Seagate GoFlex 4TB external USB 3.0 drive and a WD My Book Essential 3TB external USB 3.0 drive. I'm wondering why was this feature taken out in the EP600 G2 and EP950?
Was it overlooked or is it by intentional design?
Is there any plan to fix this in future firmware or is this a case of that's the way it's designed and that's the way it is -- do not expect any fix via future firmware?
post #166 of 570
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Originally Posted by blimey View Post

Yes, I has confirm that 3tb is no-go on the 600 G1 via usb, but a-ok via sata. I'm not sure why this is the case as any linux distro I see with the support has it by all mount methods including usb.

So, I change the weird enclosure-style sata connector on the ep600 G1 to an esata-p connector, aka as power-over-esata or esata+usb.

I make sure to use dual voltage esata-p connector, so that it support 12v 3.5 drive, and now the ep600 stop power on shutdown. This work well with external 3tb, but I also setup the enclosure to take 12v off the esata connector.

Blimey,
Specifically, is your 3TB drive an external USB 2.0, an external USB 3.0, or bare drive? I can confirm that a 3TB and a 4TB, both USB 3.0 external drives, work with the USB 2.0 ports of the EP600 G1. I can also confirm that a 3TB bare drive hooked up to a USB 3.0 SATA bridge adapter also work with the EP600 G1's USB 2.0 ports.

Also, what adapter did you use to convert the EP600 SATA port into ESATAp? Where can one buy it?
post #167 of 570
Hi,

We'll have to re-test this. To my knowledge, it was not supported. But we'll test again with USB 3.0 drives that are > 2TB.

There are a few USB 2.0 drives that are > 2TB as well, but different drives accomplish this in a different manner.

Again we'll test with the latest firmware and update our knowledge base regarding this.
post #168 of 570
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

May be able crossflash to OllyP's custom HiMedia HD900B firmware with YAMJ. But, it only supports locally connected media, so not media on a home server. On top of this, setting up YAMJ via OllyP's custom firmware is no easy task.

Believe EP950 and EP600 G2 support basic folder.jpg or moviename.jpg cover art with their stock firmware, but there too only for locally connected media.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Can anyone confirm whether the 600 G2 only supports thumbnails on local media versus a NAS? What does the user interface look like for this?
post #169 of 570
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Originally Posted by LVS View Post

Can anyone confirm whether the 600 G2 only supports thumbnails on local media versus a NAS? What does the user interface look like for this?

I would like to know this as well. Also, what color space does the EP600/950 output? YUV 422, 444, RGB 16-235, 0-255? Is color space able to be selected? I ask because I am thinking of switching from a Boxee Box, but for some reason videos don't look good when I had Boxee outputting RGB 16-235, when I switched it to YUV 422 it was much better.
post #170 of 570
Setup my 600G2 with the latest firmware last week and gave it a workout over the weekend. 3D works flawlessly and everything worked great at first, but then I started noticing that my unit seems to glitch out a bit after about 2 hrs of use. Issues I experienced included:

- audio cutout over HDMI - video continues to play just fine but audio seems to mute out for about 2 seconds. This would reoccur every 15 minutes or so thereafter. I disconnected the unit from my Onkyo receiver and connected it directly to the Mitsubishi TV but the problem persists. Moved the unit upstairs and connected it my Sony TV with a different HDMI cable but the problem still showed up. So I'm pretty sure it's the 600G2 that's the culprit.

- video cutout over HDMI - much like the issue above, but much much less frequent. Only occurred twice over the week while watching about 6 movies.

The 600G2 is located in an open stand in my basement where the ambient temp is around 65F. It's been around the 50s outside, 70 in the main house, but nice and cool downstairs. And this was happening on all my videos (mostly 2D MKVs and two 3D M2TS ). They'd play fine at the beginning, but then would start glitching out after a few hours. It also didn't seem to matter whether the video file was directly attached via USB or streamed over the network.

Anyone else experience this or should I return my unit to Amazon for another one?
post #171 of 570
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Originally Posted by Shanndogg View Post

I would like to know this as well. Also, what color space does the EP600/950 output? YUV 422, 444, RGB 16-235, 0-255? Is color space able to be selected? I ask because I am thinking of switching from a Boxee Box, but for some reason videos don't look good when I had Boxee outputting RGB 16-235, when I switched it to YUV 422 it was much better.

Thumbnail only works for local drives when viewed through the media library feature.

The color space is RGB. You can turn on Deep Color if your display supports it.
post #172 of 570
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Originally Posted by gumbico View Post

Setup my 600G2 with the latest firmware last week and gave it a workout over the weekend. 3D works flawlessly and everything worked great at first, but then I started noticing that my unit seems to glitch out a bit after about 2 hrs of use. Issues I experienced included:

- audio cutout over HDMI - video continues to play just fine but audio seems to mute out for about 2 seconds. This would reoccur every 15 minutes or so thereafter. I disconnected the unit from my Onkyo receiver and connected it directly to the Mitsubishi TV but the problem persists. Moved the unit upstairs and connected it my Sony TV with a different HDMI cable but the problem still showed up. So I'm pretty sure it's the 600G2 that's the culprit.

- video cutout over HDMI - much like the issue above, but much much less frequent. Only occurred twice over the week while watching about 6 movies.

The 600G2 is located in an open stand in my basement where the ambient temp is around 65F. It's been around the 50s outside, 70 in the main house, but nice and cool downstairs. And this was happening on all my videos (mostly 2D MKVs and two 3D M2TS ). They'd play fine at the beginning, but then would start glitching out after a few hours. It also didn't seem to matter whether the video file was directly attached via USB or streamed over the network.

Anyone else experience this or should I return my unit to Amazon for another one?

Try a different HDMI cable? If the problem persists with another HDMI cable, then I recommend getting an exchange through Amazon.
post #173 of 570
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Originally Posted by Jack@Micca View Post

Try a different HDMI cable? If the problem persists with another HDMI cable, then I recommend getting an exchange through Amazon.

I'm experiencing similar issues.

After watching about 2 hours of movies, the unit will simply freeze up. The picture pauses and the unit becomes unresponsive. The only fix is to power down and power back up.

I'm running v1.0.3.7 and the unit is in a well ventilated area.
post #174 of 570
I purchased a new EP600 G2 from Amazon. When it arrived, the outer box was in perfect condition; however, the blue Micca box was badly crushed from the bottom and two of the sides.

I was expecting the Micca unit to be crushed or significantly damaged, but to my surprise, it was unscathed! It is a solid little box.

I hooked it up, updated the firmware, and it has performed flawlessly!

Because of the two similar posts that reported issues after continuously running for a couple of hours, I decided to run it extensively to test it.

I streamed many different types of media (including FLAC, 3D SBS mkv, and 3D iso's) from my NAS for eight hours without a noticeable glitch.

So far, very happy with my purchase!
post #175 of 570
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Originally Posted by child of wonder View Post

I'm experiencing similar issues.

After watching about 2 hours of movies, the unit will simply freeze up. The picture pauses and the unit becomes unresponsive. The only fix is to power down and power back up.

I'm running v1.0.3.7 and the unit is in a well ventilated area.

Hi,

Did you do the firmware update using the recovery mode? If not try doing this.

Based on your description, it seems to be slightly different from gumbico's issue. If gumbico continues to have the same issue with a different HDMI cable, his player may have a bad HDMI connector.
post #176 of 570
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Originally Posted by Jack@Micca View Post

Try a different HDMI cable? If the problem persists with another HDMI cable, then I recommend getting an exchange through Amazon.

Jack, yes I was already testing against a different HDMI cable on a different TV set.

- audio cutout over HDMI - video continues to play just fine but audio seems to mute out for about 2 seconds. This would reoccur every 15 minutes or so thereafter. I disconnected the unit from my Onkyo receiver and connected it directly to the Mitsubishi TV but the problem persists.

Moved the unit upstairs and connected it my Sony TV with a different HDMI cable but the problem still showed up. So I'm pretty sure it's the 600G2 that's the culprit.
post #177 of 570
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Originally Posted by gumbico View Post

Jack, yes I was already testing against a different HDMI cable on a different TV set.

- audio cutout over HDMI - video continues to play just fine but audio seems to mute out for about 2 seconds. This would reoccur every 15 minutes or so thereafter. I disconnected the unit from my Onkyo receiver and connected it directly to the Mitsubishi TV but the problem persists.

Moved the unit upstairs and connected it my Sony TV with a different HDMI cable but the problem still showed up. So I'm pretty sure it's the 600G2 that's the culprit.

Send an email to support@miccastore.com and they will get it exchanged. Otherwise you can also return it to Amazon and repurchase a new one. Which ever method is more convenient for you.
post #178 of 570
So reviews have been mixed. What your experience Brajesh?
post #179 of 570
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Originally Posted by Jack@Micca View Post


Thumbnail only works for local drives when viewed through the media library feature.

The color space is RGB. You can turn on Deep Color if your display supports it.

Just got the EP600 G2 and it's good- does what boxee couldn't by playing hd audio without drop outs. Some questions:

1) Is the only method for accessing your files from a NAS by going through all the folders until you get to the file you want or is there a way to have "Movies" go directly to a specific folder? Right now I have to select network - workgroup - NAS - movies. Is there a way to have the Micca just jump directly to the movie folder when you select movies or files from the main menu?

2) When I get to my movie folder I can change the view to thumbnails, but it seems to only take whatever image is listed first in my folder, not the folder.jpg. is this normal or is there a way to change this?

3) In the manual it says a wizard will come up to help set up my media library, but it doesn't. I am thinking this might only happen on the 950 with a hard drive?

4) Is lpcm possible when it's in a mkv container? My mkv's of video that have lossless lpcm hd audio that were ripped using makemkv don't produce any sound. Anyone else able to have this work? I read on the makemkv forums that lpcm should be converted to flac? It worked on the boxee.

Other than what I mentioned I am impressed and this should take the place of my boxee.
post #180 of 570
One other thing, when i pulled up a 3d mvc mkv it played in 2d. If I selected 3d simulation, side by side, or over under from the menu it would then play in 3d. Normal, or should it be automatic?
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