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Originally Posted by TedSeattle View Post

Lumines was on sale for $15 on Amazon on Wednesday.
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Two days before I ordered got a Vita. I think I would have rather not even known.

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I may order this puppy:



Besides the handle grips it has a power cell to double the play time along with the built-in battery.
Edited by joeblow - 11/24/12 at 11:01am
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No, just the bundle for me right now. I figure I can play a few games at a time on the 4 gigger until the mem card prices go on sale (even if it is after Christmas). I'm good at being patient for nice deals.

Yeah this deal has so much content immediately available to play, I'm not even thinking about what other games to buy ( like you I definitely want Hot Shots Golf but I'm going to wait till I can get a physical copy for $15 or less). I plan to beat Gravity Rush and Uncharted within the 90 days ps+ trial because I'm not 100% sure if I'm upgrading to a year subscription. I 'likely' will, but just in case....

That Nyko power grip you posted looks interesting, a few of the user reviews are worth a look. I have my eye on this one:

http://www.amazon.com/CTA-Digital-Vita-Hand-Grip-playstation/dp/B0073ESZ58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353787588&sr=8-1&keywords=Vita+grip

but I may take a closer look at the nyko. Definitely could use a battery extender....
Edited by dragonyeuw - 11/24/12 at 12:40pm
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In Canada, Walmart has HSG on sale for $9... so tempting!! However, I want HSG on my Vita at all times, so the reduced price on the 27th is good enough for me. Picked up Resistance for $20 though.

Ironically, after I signed up for PS+, the HDD on my PS3 crashed just before I was about to back up all my game saves to the cloud (forced to reformat it). My latest local backup is almost 2 years old... c'est la vie.rolleyes.gif It's not really a big deal, except I was pretty close to platinuming ME3. The novelty of cloud saves ALMOST saved me a bunch of time (oh well, it'll be fun to replay the game with the Omega dlc). Luckily, I haven't really put too much time into the rest of the games I've purchased in the last while.
Edited by Mikazaru - 11/24/12 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by dragonyeuw View Post

I'm actually contemplating selling off my PS allstars code, I didnt really have much interest in the game, though I am a 'casual' fan of the super smash series from Nintendo. Can anyone who has this game say if its worth keeping? Same with ACL, from what I heard the games storyline is a mess and all things considered I'd rather just buy the ps3 version( aided by the $10 coupon from amazon).

I'm not sure if you'd get much of a resales value for Assassins Creed because it comes in a clear plastic case together with the 4 gig card unless you sell it together unopened. As for PlayStation All Stars Battle Royal, it's probably best to play it (rather it was the Beta or in Best Buy) and if you did and didn't like it than at least in the bright side, you'd be able to put that money toward a bigger memory card.

For sure it was definitely torturous for me living with the 4GB card when I first got the PS Vita. It was bad enough back then filling it up with just demos and now with Plus, it's really going to be a headache for a ton of people.
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 11/25/12 at 4:38am
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Is it possible to delete a digital download game off the vita while at the same time preserving the save files?

The need would be - if one is traveling then one probably doesn't have the CMA along on the trip, thus one wouldn't be able to delete and re-copy (from PC or PS3) as one desires to play other stuff. From what I've experienced the CMA copies the entire game install and saves back/forth.

On the other hand, if one has PS Plus (and WIFI), can it manage copying just Vita game saves to/from the cloud?

PS the new CMA version's wifi sync is really friggin cool.
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

I'm not sure if you'd get much of a resales value for Assassins Creed because it comes in a clear plastic case together with the 4 gig card unless you sell it together unopened. As for PlayStation All Stars Battle Royal, it's probably best to play it (rather it was the Beta or in Best Buy) and if you did and didn't like it than at least in the bright side, you'd be able to put that money toward a bigger memory card.
For sure it was definitely torturous for me living with the 4GB card when I first got the PS Vita. It was bad enough back then filling it up with just demos and now with Plus, it's really going to be a headache for a ton of people.

Yeah, I hate that the bundled games never have the proper case. I'm kind of a stickler for that sort of thing.

I'm hoping to flip the AC game and card unopened for $30 ( broken down $20 for the game and $10 for card), don't know how realistic that is. I'm between minds on PS allstars, If there's a demo on psn I'll check it out first. One thing I do like is the crossplay functionality, so there should be a decent amount of online players on either Vita/ps3 at any time. Don't really like the fact that its a code, I've prefer to own physical copies of Vita games, and keep the space on the card for psn,psp, and ps1 classics. For that reason alone I may flip the code, and rebuy a physical copy down the line when the price drops. That's assuming I like the game, of course.

Sony did a very smart thing giving away all that content with PS+ subscriptions. As I mentioned earlier, they're gently nudging people towards the 32gb. Since I got in on the amazon BF bundle for $179 I'm 'ok' with forking out for the largest card; that would not have been the case had I paid fullprice for the Vita, and I imagine many people feel that way. Word is that the system reached as high as #2 gaming seller on Amazon on black friday, and several posters on a few message boards reported out of stock situations for places like gamestop, target, best buy. Despite the system's slow start, I believe there is consumer interest but its at a certain price point. I'll be curious to see the November and December sales for this thing
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I received a Cyber Monday email from Sony and saw that the Call of Duty bundle is at $200. That is the price right now and that's what it'll most-likely be tomorrow or it wouldn't be in a Cyber "Monday" email. So that would be at least 4 days straight that you'd be able to get a brand new PS Vita for $200 or less (before taxes or shipping) with a game and memory card. It's funny how many days ago, Sony was saying that price was only going to be for Friday and Saturday. Still, they're only extending the Call of Duty bundle until supplies last while the Assassins Creed bundle is back to $250. For that price, you might as well pay an extra $20 to get the 3G PS Vita with an 8 gig card for $270 although that will depend on how much you want to own the game.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10151&identifier=S_PlayStationVita&langId=-1&catalogId=10551
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 11/25/12 at 6:55am
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At this stage Sony just wants to get the handheld in people hands, I'm assuming they're hoping to make money on PS+ and the large memory cards that are now becoming 'palatable' with all the content being given away. If anyone was waiting for Vita to drop to $200 before they bought in, now's the time.
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For the record, the Vita AC3 bundle was at number 1 on amazon when I checked Friday night. It's down to 11 now that it's at $250 again.
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Originally Posted by GKMad View Post

Is it possible to delete a digital download game off the vita while at the same time preserving the save files?
The need would be - if one is traveling then one probably doesn't have the CMA along on the trip, thus one wouldn't be able to delete and re-copy (from PC or PS3) as one desires to play other stuff. From what I've experienced the CMA copies the entire game install and saves back/forth.
On the other hand, if one has PS Plus (and WIFI), can it manage copying just Vita game saves to/from the cloud?
PS the new CMA version's wifi sync is really friggin cool.

Yup, you can copy the Vita game saves onto the cloud now too (1 GB PS3/1 GB Vita). It's the main reason I jumped onto the PS+ bandwagon now, even though I own most of the games in the initial Instant Game Collection offering. At first I was wondering why I couldn't upload my PSP saves too, but then I saw that they are still stored separately from the game file on the Vita memory card. I have since deleted 3/4 of my PSP games to make room for Vita games.
post #1121 of 1725
Yep, tested and verified, Plus does the game saves, skipping the game itself! Here are some numbers:
Backup of cartridge version of Uncharted to a PC over wifi CMA = 89 MB.
Backup of cartridge version of Uncharted to PS Plus's Online Storage = 3648 KB.

Backup of digital download version of WipeOut 2048 (and expansion packs) to PC over wifi CMA = 2374 MB.
Backup of digital download version of WipeOut 2048 (and expansion packs) to PS Plus's Online Storage = 800 KB.

The purpose of my questioning this was to help everyone deal with a full memory card. Knowing how to preserve save data while offloading and re-downloading games is a good thing. Really, it doesn't matter if it's 4Gig or 32Gig, it's soon going to be full eek.gif

OK here's my next question. I'm trying to research all the various stereo headsets/headphones (with microphone) that will function with the PS Vita (Skype, Party chat, etc), either bluetooth or 3.5mm cable connected. The official Vita User Guide doesn't give enough useful info: http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/index.html. Does the Sony Pulse headset's microphone work on the PS Vita?
post #1122 of 1725
I use the Pulse headset with my Vita all the time. However, I haven't really played much online yet and tend not to use voice chat anyways, so I can't tell you how well the mic works (I'm sure it's compatible though). I can tell you that the Pulse feature makes up for the lack of rumble in the Vita, and really helps to immerse you in games. One of my initial turnoffs in the Resistance demo was the weak sounding weapons. With the Pulse headset, the game actually doesn't sound too bad. On a side note, I'm enjoying the Resistance campaign a lot more than I expected. My only real complaints are how the dead enemies simply disappear (rather than dissolve like in the console versions) and the poor enemy AI (play on Hard to compensate).
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

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Two days before I ordered got a Vita. I think I would have rather not even known.
It's still 15.99 on Amazon. If the dollar makes that much of a difference to you, I'll mail you one.

Am I reading correctly that people who got Vitas are trying to sell off one of the best games on the system (AssCreed?) That is just strange to me. Why get one, then?
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Am I reading correctly that people who got Vitas are trying to sell off one of the best games on the system (AssCreed?) That is just strange to me. Why get one, then?

In my case I wanted a White Vita, not so much the ACL game( I've heard mixed reviews saying that the story isn't handled well). Amazon was selling the bundle for $179 on BF with all the extra bonuses. For all purposes had they just offered a Vita at that price minus the throw-in goodies, I'd have still bought it.
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RE: Headphones with Vita

In using your Pulse Elite Edition headphones with the Vita, do you run the 3.5mm cable direct between the Vita and the headphones? (doing so doesn't gain the Pulse bass/rumble feature, right?)

Or do you run the 3.5mm cable between the Vita and the USB Dongle (doing so gains the Pulse bass/rumble feature, right?) In this method how do you power the USB dongle, is there a USB universal charger plugged into the nearest wall outlet? Or can it be powered from the Vita or Nyko Power Grip etc?

In thinking about a headset with a built-in microphone for use on the Vita, I then ask myself why it would need a microphone on the headset. Headphone speakers only should do the trick, as the mic is already built into the Vita. The bonus would be in allowing the headphones/mic to also be used with the PS3.

In thinking blue-tooth is the ideal solution as it'd work with phones too, now I'm second guessing that desire, mainly due to the fact that blue-tooth uses compression. Let's keep the A in AVS wink.gif (Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/headphone-buying-guide/ - The most popular format for transmitting wireless music is Bluetooth, but keep in mind that you'll sacrifice sound quality to convenience in the file compression process. To combat this audio degradation, some of the newer headphones support the aptX Bluetooth codec that offers slightly improved fidelity.)
post #1126 of 1725
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Originally Posted by GKMad View Post

RE: Headphones with Vita
In using your Pulse Elite Edition headphones with the Vita, do you run the 3.5mm cable direct between the Vita and the headphones? (doing so doesn't gain the Pulse bass/rumble feature, right?)
Or do you run the 3.5mm cable between the Vita and the USB Dongle (doing so gains the Pulse bass/rumble feature, right?) In this method how do you power the USB dongle, is there a USB universal charger plugged into the nearest wall outlet? Or can it be powered from the Vita or Nyko Power Grip etc?

The Pulse feature works fine directly connected to the Vita's 3.5mm jack as long as the battery is charged and the headphones are turned on. You can connect an ipod to the USB dongle powered by a portable USB charger/wall adapter if you want wireless operation for listening to music. But with the Vita, it's doesn't work because you need to handle and see the Vita's screen to play games (ie. it would still be wired).
post #1127 of 1725
3G PS Vita for $200 and includes 8GB card and 2 free games.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333045
This will surely sell even more PS Vita's but this kind of deal will get some people pissed who just bought the ACIII bundle at Amazon and would have preferred this deal. We'll see if this deal really happens.
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Personally I dont see that as being a 'better' deal than the amazon one, but good nevertheless. Suppose it depends on how much value one places on the 3G functionality versus all the content that was thrown into the amazon deal.
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I'm not sure if you misunderstood what I said but I meant it might seam like a better deal for some people just like the Amazon deal seamed better for some people.

Thinking it over, I'm not sure if they'll have anywhere near as much stock as Amazon did for the ACIII bundle unless they made a special deal with Sony and will be getting a lot. Why call it a "clearance"?. That would make it seam like they're trying to get rid of stock and wont be getting more in. Making room for a 4G version?
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 11/27/12 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

I'm not sure if you misunderstood what I said but I meant it might seam like a better deal for some people just like the Amazon deal seamed better for some people.



Basically it's a YMMV thing, some people may prefer the amazon BF bundle and others will find more value in the 3G bundle. That's what you're getting at, yeah? That's what I was trying to say the first time, which deal is 'better' depends on what conpents in each bundle the consumer considers of greater 'value' whether it be strictly in dollars and cents or intangible value. Case in point I actually wanted a White Vita so I placed a certain 'value' on that feature( I suppose for all purposes a 'meaningless' one as the color doesn't impact functionality in any way).
Edited by dragonyeuw - 11/27/12 at 12:49pm
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I wonder if Amazon will be selling that same bundle for $250.

Click on this link:
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-3G-Wi-Fi-Bundle/dp/B0071NH8B8/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354210208&sr=8-1&keywords=ps+vita

On the right under "More Buying Choices" you see the Amazon.com price for $250. Put your mouse over it and you'll see that it's not going to be sold until December 7 which is the same date that's on the GameSpot's site for the Instant Games bundle.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/new-300-ps-vita-bundle-revealed-6400770

For sure $250 would be a much more attractive deal if that was the case since the card that it includes is only 4GB. It's true that if Amazon were to really do that, the price of the WiFi only model would have to be a bit cheaper. On the other hand, perhaps Amazon wants to get rid of the older 3G package for $250 while they sell the new package for $300.

For sure they'll be a lot of people trying to get the AT&T deal if they want a PS Vita now since it'll be only $200.
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 11/29/12 at 10:06am
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Headline from Gamespot article:

Sony sells half a million consoles last week alongside more than 160,000 PS Vita units; PS Plus subscriptions rise 259 percent.
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Originally Posted by dragonyeuw View Post

Headline from Gamespot article:
Sony sells half a million consoles last week alongside more than 160,000 PS Vita units; PS Plus subscriptions rise 259 percent.

Damn....


160,000 isn't that much in the grand scheme of things... Hopefully it has a better December.
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Damn....
160,000 isn't that much in the grand scheme of things... Hopefully it has a better December.

Yeah, 160,000 is poor compared to the other consoles, and especially considering it was outsold by the DS lite( though in fairness, we're talking two totally different pricepoints so thats not exactly apples to apples). Certainly it was a spike over their previous monthly sales, and that was chiefly off Black Friday and more specifically that $179 amazon bundle likely played a big part. We don't know cyber monday sales yet, nor do we know what the system sold overall over the month of November. My guess would be in the 225k range.

Which, again looking at the sales of other systems this time of year isnt good, but Vita hasnt been pushed at all by Sony and I think many people are apprehensive about its long term prospects so they're afraid to bite. I'm in that category too but I can justify buying one again by jumping on the $179 amazon deal, the release of Persona 4 and the *finally* availability of psone classics. There is enough content now across the Vita games, psp games, psone classics to justify ownership in my mind again, even if Sony pulled the plug tomorrow ( lets hope not, of course).

The one strategy thats actually given the system a bit of attention is the free PS+ Vita games. I personally don't see December sales outpacing November without some deals at or near the level of what we saw on BF, but surely by now Sony must see that if they're going to hold the price at $250, its going to have to be with goodies thrown in, a subscription to PS+, memory card, game, etc. Their 3G bundle mentioned above seems rather nonsensical on the surface when you consider why they would include a 4gb card alongside a ps+ sub offering free games, but clearly Sony is betting that throwing in all these digital goodies will encourage people to soften their stance on the higher priced storage cards and cave in. That's whats making them money right now.
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

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Two days before I ordered got a Vita. I think I would have rather not even known.
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I may order this puppy:

Besides the handle grips it has a power cell to double the play time along with the built-in battery.

I've been talking about that hand grip for some time now. We have one, and love it. It makes holding the Vita far more comfortable, and the battery works as advertised. If I have any complaints, it takes a long time to charge, and in very few instances it sort of gets in the way of playing games that require the back screen - it's a reach thing, it does not block it at all. These are very minor things though, and I can't imagine playing the Vita without it.
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When you have a Nexus 7, a 7", 1280x800 Android tablet costing $200 that includes a quad core processor, 1GB of RAM and 16GB of storage, I sort of wonder how much it costs Sony to make the PS Vita now unless Google is subsidizing it a little.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_16gb&feature=microsite&hl=en

That $300 bundle is getting a lot of bad comments all over the place including from people who are very pro PS Vita. This is really crazy and I'm almost speechless that it went from an 8GB card to a 4GB card. It's good that it includes 1 year of Plus but Sony is really pushing it. That bundle really needs to be no more than $250 while they should knock the Wi Fi only model back down to $200 especially if they are still making a profit at that price. They will make up for it selling far more units. If you can't knock down the price than at least be more generous on the included card capacity. A bonus would be to slash the cards at least a little bit. I can't believe the card prices have went back up in both the Sony store and even on Amazon.

Their are 2 big games coming out early next year, KillZone and Soul Sacrifice. Keep the PS Vita prices good right now and by the time those games come out, things can start to turn around. Perhaps that might convince Capcom to release a Monster Hunter game for the PS Vita but that's if Nintendo doesn't have an exclusivity deal.
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 11/30/12 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

When you have a Nexus 7, a 7", 1280x800 Android tablet costing $200 that includes a quad core processor, 1GB of RAM and 16GB of storage, I sort of wonder how much it costs Sony to make the PS Vita now unless Google is subsidizing it a little.
You kind of answered you own question. One of the big problems that portables are facing now is that mobile devices are subsidized by service providers. As a result, they can be sold for cheaper, and they can be redesigned on an annual basis.

Hopefully Sony can maintain the awesome boost they got over the past couple of weeks. Clearly pricing and games have been the big hurdles. Having a cheaper portable with a well-marketed game (AC3 Liberation) has done them very well.
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Well, in the case of the Nexus 7, it's flat out $200 without any kind of contract. It's just a WiFi unit.

The AT&T deal is live.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/sony/playstation-vita-black.html#fbid=bDgWH8047sQ
One person is saying how you'll need to sign up for at least a month of service to get that price while another person is saying that only if you buy from online you can sign up and that if you get it from the store, you don't need the service to get it at that price.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333045&page=4

That reminds me of others things that can help sell the PS Vita even if it might not be much. Release a 4G version early next year and have AT&T give you $100 off with a "1" year contract for the most expensive data plan and $50 off for the cheaper data plan. To make it even more successful, allow services from other carriers such as Verizon, etc.
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 11/30/12 at 11:07am
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I've just had mine for two days (amazon ac bundle) but so far it's an awesome system especially with the PS+ option. I hope they can drop the price permanently to $199 and get the price of memory down (using their own memory instead of microSD was a big mistake in my opinion).
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