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post #241 of 1725
It's gonna get pretty expensive buying memory cards for those who decide to download all their games....especially as the size of the games increase over the next 5 years. Personally, I'll put up with the 'inconvenience' of swapping games for being able to sell or trade off games I no longer want..... which more often than not goes towards new games.
post #242 of 1725
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Originally Posted by tgable View Post

Swapping games seems like such a hassle with small memory cards. I also found myself avoiding UMD games on the PSP for the same reason. It is really nice to turn it on and pick a game from the internal memory card.



So use a bigger memory card? You're not restricted to a 4GB card if you use the physical version of games.

If you prefer to have all your games available in one place, I understand that preference, but not how the hassle of changing games is affected by memory card size. In either case you could just get the largest memory card, and you could likely fit more game saves on a memory card than you could full games and saves.
post #243 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dragonyeuw View Post

It's gonna get pretty expensive buying memory cards for those who decide to download all their games....especially as the size of the games increase over the next 5 years. Personally, I'll put up with the 'inconvenience' of swapping games for being able to sell or trade off games I no longer want..... which more often than not goes towards new games.

The cost of memory will go down over the next 5 years too. I'm not doubting that it'll be (more) expensive to download all games, especially if the digital versions don't really go on sale like physical copies will (b2g1free, $10 off, etc).
post #244 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dragonyeuw View Post

It's gonna get pretty expensive buying memory cards for those who decide to download all their games

Don't forget you can store Vita games on a PC or PS3, then sync & load them to the Vita.
post #245 of 1725
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Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post

The cost of memory will go down over the next 5 years too. I'm not doubting that it'll be (more) expensive to download all games, especially if the digital versions don't really go on sale like physical copies will (b2g1free, $10 off, etc).

Not only that, but the situation of carrying around i.e 4-5 games which is touted as an inconvenience for some, is going to be replaced with carrying around i.e 3-4 memory cards, depending on the number of games one downloads and the size of the cards they own. And of course, who's going to remember what games are saved on what card? Say for example one is carrying around three 8gb cards....

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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Don't forget you can store Vita games on a PC or PS3, then sync & load them to the Vita.

Fair point, that....again that takes away some of the 'convenience' factor if one has to keep swapping their games in and out, doesn't it? I always thought the argument was that people would be able to 'carry ALL my games around on a memory card'.....
post #246 of 1725
My hope/wish is that, similar to RemotePlay, we will someday be able to wirelessly connect to a PS3/4 from a Vita and browse our library of Vita games purchased. Then select and transfer the desired game (w/ saved games status) to the Vita. This way the PS3 acts as a cloud for our Vita.

This seems technically possible, right?
post #247 of 1725
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Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post



So use a bigger memory card? You're not restricted to a 4GB card if you use the physical version of games.

If you prefer to have all your games available in one place, I understand that preference, but not how the hassle of changing games is affected by memory card size. In either case you could just get the largest memory card, and you could likely fit more game saves on a memory card than you could full games and saves.

I'm pretty sure tgable is referring to the physical size of the game cartridges (though not as tiny as the memory cards, they are still pretty small and the slot cover seems kind of fiddly).

My initial plan was to download all my games, but I'm now reconsidering. Although, I don't trade in games, I do lend them out to my nephews. On my ps3, I generally only play one game at a time, with some casual gaming (tetris, superstardust) intermixed. It might be better to buy the physical versions of the bigger, console-like titles and download the bite-sized casual games. I like the idea of having most of my games on one memory card, but it might not be that practical.

Here's an early build of MK vita.

post #248 of 1725
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

My hope/wish is that, similar to RemotePlay, we will someday be able to wirelessly connect to a PS3/4 from a Vita and browse our library of Vita games purchased. Then select and transfer the desired game (w/ saved games status) to the Vita. This way the PS3 acts as a cloud for our Vita.

This seems technically possible, right?

Hopefully the game save content is separate from the actual game. That way, you could just redownload the game from PSN and (if you did not delete it) your game save will still be on the memory card. If not, there is always PSN+'s cloud saving feature.
post #249 of 1725
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

My hope/wish is that, similar to RemotePlay, we will someday be able to wirelessly connect to a PS3/4 from a Vita and browse our library of Vita games purchased. Then select and transfer the desired game (w/ saved games status) to the Vita. This way the PS3 acts as a cloud for our Vita.

This seems technically possible, right?

It is indeed "technically possible," and there are multiple videos showing it in action already through hacked PS3 firmware and a Japanese Vita. The big question is whether or not Sony will do it officially, and whether or not they can get third party publishers to agree to let them. Cloud saves, of course, won't work with a hacked PS3. But as a proof of concept, those videos are very promising.

And even if Sony doesn't do this, both Apple and Nintendo definitely will. It'd be stupid for Sony to leave this on the table for those other companies.
post #250 of 1725
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Originally Posted by Mikazaru View Post

I'm pretty sure tgable is referring to the physical size of the game cartridges (though not as tiny as the memory cards, they are still pretty small and the slot cover seems kind of fiddly).

My initial plan was to download all my games, but I'm now reconsidering. Although, I don't trade in games, I do lend them out to my nephews. On my ps3, I generally only play one game at a time, with some casual gaming (tetris, superstardust) intermixed. It might be better to buy the physical versions of the bigger, console-like titles and download the bite-sized casual games. I like the idea of having most of my games on one memory card, but it might not be that practical.

Here's an early build of MK vita.


Well that makes more sense, and I apologize for misreading it.
post #251 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dragonyeuw View Post

Not only that, but the situation of carrying around i.e 4-5 games which is touted as an inconvenience for some, is going to be replaced with carrying around i.e 3-4 memory cards, depending on the number of games one downloads and the size of the cards they own. And of course, who's going to remember what games are saved on what card? Say for example one is carrying around three 8gb cards....

Fair point, that....again that takes away some of the 'convenience' factor if one has to keep swapping their games in and out, doesn't it? I always thought the argument was that people would be able to 'carry ALL my games around on a memory card'.....

I carry ALL my PSP games on my single 16gb card. I just counted, 53 games, and still 4.8gb free for more. Certainly PSV games will be larger, but I doubt to the point only 3 or 4 games will fit on an 8gb card. By the time it is a concern, hopefully card prices will come down (part of the reason I still complain SD cards were not used) and you'll be able to upgrade to a single larger card when you want.

I specifically went the route of one 16gb card to eliminate the whole "What game is on what card" issue.
post #252 of 1725
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Originally Posted by TornadoTJ View Post

Certainly PSV games will be larger, but I doubt to the point only 3 or 4 games will fit on an 8gb card.

Here's the sizes of some of the full retail Vita games:
  • Army Corps of Hell – 598 MB
  • Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention – 1.6 GB
  • Dynasty Warriors Next – 1.5 GB
  • Hot Shots Gold: World Invitational – 1.1 GB
  • Little Deviants – 869 MB
  • Touch My Katamari – 744 MB
  • Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 – 1.4 GB
  • Uncharted: Golden Abyss – 2.8 GB
post #253 of 1725
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Originally Posted by TornadoTJ View Post

I carry ALL my PSP games on my single 16gb card. I just counted, 53 games, and still 4.8gb free for more. Certainly PSV games will be larger, but I doubt to the point only 3 or 4 games will fit on an 8gb card.

Most PSV games are likely going to be a few gigs in size. Uncharted, as shown above, is 2.8 and that's a launch game. How big will they be in 3-5 years time? Pushing 5gb in some cases, particularly if you wind up buying DLC content for certain games. For those who are planning on going all DD, an 8gb card is going to be insufficient VERY quickly. There is no way you're going to be able to have 53 full PSV games on even the 32gb card. Let's assume the average PSV game is 1 gig, that means at most you'll be able to fit 32 games on a 32GB card.

Now, that may not be an issue for many people, but for power buyers( I'm using that term to mean people who buy huge quantities of games), the money spent and quantity of cards will stack up after a while. So even as memory cheapens, if you wind up buying a lot of PSV games that are 1/2/3 gigs and more, you'll still wind up purchasing a few cards.
post #254 of 1725
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Here's the sizes of some of the full retail Vita games:
  • Army Corps of Hell - 598 MB
  • Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention - 1.6 GB
  • Dynasty Warriors Next - 1.5 GB
  • Hot Shots Gold: World Invitational - 1.1 GB
  • Little Deviants - 869 MB
  • Touch My Katamari - 744 MB
  • Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 - 1.4 GB
  • Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 2.8 GB


That's one 8gb card used up, right there.....
post #255 of 1725
Yea, I'm most likely either getting a 16gb or 32gb card to start with, but I don't plan on getting many digital versions of full retail titles (at least not right away).
post #256 of 1725
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

I actually did not pre-order and that new bundle deal is temping me but the big problem is that I have around an equivalent of $150 in Sony rewards credit and If I put that toward the $300 unit, I might be just paying $150 out of pocket for the unit but the Vita isn't on the Rewards site yet. Sony obviously wants to sell as much as possible so you'd think it would be available to pre-order on the rewards site.

Their is a chance that I might get it early without it but if they allow me to pre-order it through Sony Rewards, I'll order it right away without hesitation. Hey, getting the 3G Vita with a 8 gig card for $150 is a remarkable deal. Now if Sony becomes successful with getting Adobe to make an exception for the Vita, that would be even better.

You just piqued my curiosity. I have a Sony Syle gift card with at least $300 on it that I never remember to use. Will the Sony Style stores be carrying the Vita? Would love to use up that card on a Vita and be done with it.
post #257 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dbburns View Post

You just piqued my curiosity. I have a Sony Syle gift card with at least $300 on it that I never remember to use. Will the Sony Style stores be carrying the Vita? Would love to use up that card on a Vita and be done with it.

I would imagine they would, they carried PS3's didn't they?
post #258 of 1725
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Originally Posted by dbburns View Post

You just piqued my curiosity. I have a Sony Syle gift card with at least $300 on it that I never remember to use. Will the Sony Style stores be carrying the Vita? Would love to use up that card on a Vita and be done with it.

I guess without even knowing it, you were saving that for when the PSVITA comes out.

In my case, I might get the PSVITA without the rewards and hope it doesn't take too long for the accessories and games to be on that site. Then I'll use it up on a 32GB memory card and game.
post #259 of 1725
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

In my case, I might get the PSVITA without the rewards and hope it doesn't take too long for the accessories and games to be on that site. Then I'll use it up on a 32GB memory card and game.

You know you don't have to wait for stuff to appear on the Rewards site, right? You can spend your reward points on games/peripherals you purchase elsewhere; click on "Purchase Credit Form" on the "My Account" page.
post #260 of 1725
I think I might get a slightly worse value that way. On the site it says it'll deduct 115 points for every $1 of credit. It would be much better if it was for 100 points per $1 like it seams to be in a lot of their products. For example the Uncharted bundle costs 29999 points and on Sony Style, it's $299.99.

Still, at the moment, the only Sony related products I intend on buying anytime soon are the PSVITA or anything to go with it such as a card or game so I'll need to spend those points one way or another. I guess I'll buy the system first and then wait and see how I'll get everything else.

I do wonder if Sony will ever upgrade the 4GB card to 8GB for the people who pre-ordered the early bundle just to be fair to them.

I also wonder if Parrot will make the PSVITA compatible with their new helicopter which has a couple of HD cameras. It'll be controllable with either an Apple or Android based portable device but with the PSVITA having 2 anolog sticks, it would really be interesting.
http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1391651
post #261 of 1725
Gamestop now have the Vita in their stores to try out, or according to some of the Engadget comments, look at behind glass.

Also, RadioShack has the First Edition wifi-only bundle for $299+tax w/ in-store pickup for pre-order in the US. This is the week-early bundle with a wifi-only Vita, Little Deviants game, 4Gb memory card and a nice, exclusive case -- previously only available in Canada. It remains to be seen if this is a mistake, so I'm not confident it will actually be sold in the US. RadioShack could cancel or switch to the US $350 3G bundle, which also includes a free month of 3G + free still unannounced PSN $10-$15 PSN game.

EDIT: It looks like Radio Shack has indeed removed this deal.
post #262 of 1725
One-and-done games like Uncharted I will purchase the physical copy, as well as the yearly sports games, so that I can trade/resell. Games like Katamari, Lumines, etc. I will probably download on a 16gb card.

Carrying around small cards will be no problem as opposed to the more awkward UMD disks.
post #263 of 1725
They do. We went to GS yesterday to do some game trading, and got to play around with it. It is an impressive piece of hardware. The interface is very intuitive. As stated before, the build quality is much higher than the PSP. Still too expensive to be able to justify one, but it is a quality piece of hardware.
post #264 of 1725
Thread Starter 
More Vita System software news from Playstation Lifestyle:

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Next PlayStation Vita Update To Add Map App, Video Recording and Mac Support
02/06/2012 Written by Sebastian Moss


The next PlayStation Vita update, version 1.6, will add a Map application and video recording, along with Mac support for the Vita Content Management Assistant program.



The Map program obviously requires a 3G capable Vita to work out-and-about, but it's not known whether Wi-Fi only Vita's will receive the app for use with hotspots. The app, which uses Google Maps has both Standard and Satellite view, has walking and driving directions and can give you details about your current location, according the Andriasang.



The system's photo app will be updated to also record videos, which up until now the handheld was unable to do - something we criticized when we tested out the camera.



Another minor change will mean that the Home button will flash blue when you have the Vita hooked up to power.

Sony is also set to release a Mac version of the Content Management program, with the update including support for the new software. The program allows you to transfer data between your handheld and your computer.

The update is set to release on February 8th, and will also change PlayStation Network Accounts to Sony Entertainment Network Accounts, like on PS3.

I'm personally not planning on activating the 3G on mine (I have an iPhone so I'll stick with it for maps), but it is good to see they are trying to add additional functionality. I also have a Macbook Pro, so a Mac version of the Content Manager is actually something I'll probably use. Good on you, Sony.
post #265 of 1725
I kinda forgot about this, but oh well... it looks like no PSP-UMD to Vita transfer program for us.
post #266 of 1725
Anyone think that the 3G service will sell so horribly within the first year that Sony and ATT make a deal to offer free 3G for SEN browsing/purchasing kinda like how Kindle operates, then if you want the 3G for navigation etc, you can pay?

If you have bought a cellphone withing the last couple years, I can think of no benefits the 3g on Vita brings that you dont already have on your phone.

I dont play games on my phone, other than Words With Friends, cause it kills my battery real fast. But it would be nice to have free 3G if your at the airport or something and just download a small app game like angry birds or something on your vita while waiting for your delayed flight.

Im kind of leaning towards the 3G model, because its only an extra $20 with the bundle deal.
post #267 of 1725
I'm trading in some games, my PSP GO and an Ipod Touch and I think I'll get a 3g version, I may not always use it but it will be nice to turn on during the summer months for vacations etc
post #268 of 1725
Some info on the AR games:

post #269 of 1725
Thread Starter 
It looks like the initial shipment of Vita games have arrived at GameStop. I got a call from GS saying that my preorder for UC: Golden Abyss has arrived. I just called to verify & was told that my preorder was ready to sell. My local GS just has 1 copy of Hotshots Golf (the other game I'm interested in) because no one preordered it.

The associate said that they are ONLY selling the games & accessories. The Vitas still aren't being sold at GS until the First Edition on 2/15.

My fav expression applies--YMMV. I live in small to mid-size city (less than 500,000 population), so if we have them here, chances are your GS stores have them too.
post #270 of 1725
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Originally Posted by shadowlock View Post

It looks like the initial shipment of Vita games have arrived at GameStop. I got a call from GS saying that my preorder for UC: Golden Abyss has arrived. I just called to verify & was told that my preorder was ready to sell. My local GS just has 1 copy of Hotshots Golf (the other game I'm interested in) because no one preordered it.

The associate said that they are ONLY selling the games & accessories. The Vitas still aren't being sold at GS until the First Edition on 2/15.

My fav expression applies--YMMV. I live in small to mid-size city (less than 500,000 population), so if we have them here, chances are your GS stores have them too.

500,000 is a small to mid-size city?

My city only has around 10,000 people I think.
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