PlayStation Meeting 2013 (PS4 unveiling - conference replay in first post) - Page 3

From Gizmodo:


Original article from Eurogamer:

Why does have Sony always fall back on sales of the Ps2. Yes it did well...get over it. But your Ps3 didn't do so wel so realize that and fix it this time around. Companies that rely on their past succcess stories to justify their poor decisions in the present often fall on their face.

I suspect late 2012 -early 2013 for a new xbox. Which is already too far away in my mind. The consoles look dated now, and have for some time. Time to move on. The smart thing to do is to just add more power to the existing platforms instead of a entirely different programming language that developers will have to relearn all over again. Would also solve the backwards compatibility issues.

Wish list for ps3?
1. Better reliabilty. This gen was horrendous, and un-acceptable. Yes Xbox AND PS3. Quiet and cool running consoles are a must.
2. For the love of god get rid of the pos controller.Till this day I will buy the xbox versions of multiplatform games due to hating the ps3 controller so much.
3. Faster BD drive, with better lasers, maybe install to HD option....which I've wanted since day one on the Ps3.
4. Better multimedia support. mkc etc.
5. I don't care about cloud gaming, I don't ever want a media'less console
6. Sensible amount of video ram this time around.
7. True 1080p with at least 4xAA and 16AF across the board. That's 1920 x 1080 and not the scaling nonsense that they do now. otherwise, don't bother. When you advertise "HD" or "1080P" it @#$@ better be this time around.

And, better games. This gen was flooded with too many Multiplayer repetitive nonsense. Stop letting multiplayer games ruin single player campaigns.

Don't see that trend stopping anytime soon.

*In the US.

I haven't checked recently, but Sony was on par to outsell the Xbox worldwide and push into #2 behind the Wii this Christmas. Hardly "Not doing so wel".

They're also not replacing their FUD Phat design at their own expense, unlike MS did (props!), which is adding to profit margins.

Saying anything else is disingenuous. Releasing late put them behind MS, but they have caught up and done so without putting side a big wad of cash to pay off early adopters (which makes me mad, being one).

As for less MP, forgetaboutit. Luckily Sony still backs a wide swath of genres, but they too will be pushing to make sure even those have some sort of MP. Luckily it's not all FPS and 3rd PS's.

Knowing Sony, their probably thinking about making it 4K resolution since by the time it's released, They'll probably be consumer 4K TVs being released by around the same time. Perhaps we'll have 200GB discs right away and maybe higher for games such as Metal Gear.

lol, 4k. Most games aren't 1080 now! Many are not even 720...

1. I've had 2 phats and now have 2 slims. Not a bit of trouble with any of them. Got the first slim because I was tired of the fan noise on the old BC phat. Got the second slim because with the trade-in deal they had at GameStop at the time it was a net $0 trade.

2. I have one of these controllers and love it, I think you'd like it.
http://www.target.com/p/PS3-Pro-Elit...3/-/A-13217769
You can get them at lots of locations, not just Target. Got mine at Best Buy.

3, 5, and 6 will likely happen by default. Try to buy a crap PC video card nowadays. Can't do it, they've all been supplanted with better stuff.

4. I agree, but it's not a deal-breaker to me. I have an HTPC in my bedroom that's taken over streaming duties, and I certainly don't want anything stored on the PS3's hard drive. I would rather see the PS3 able to act as a Windows Media extender (not likely), have Amazon Prime Video on Demand support (this should be easy), and a few other home theater options rather than offering native .MKV support.

I did say "Knowing Sony" They'll for sure want to try and 1 up everybody with something drastic somehow, sort of like what they tried to do with Blu-Ray and besides, they'll want to sell their 4K TV's by that time just like they wanted Blu-Ray to succeed.

Won't happen, different people running the division now.

It's probably too early to tell anyway but since technology has been advancing quickly, you never know. I'll be a current system for years so it shouldn't be too far fetched that they could be thinking about the possibility as we speak. I'll probably depend on how cheap the technology will be to produce it.

Tough call on the tech, but you're right there'll be plenty of Japanese hubris and smug coming with it.

What do you mean?
"there'll be plenty of Japanese hubris and smug coming with it."

Just that Sony tends to talk a mean game (and their hardware tends to deliver, at least out the gate) but then their marketing and their in house software development team tends to crash and burn. Thank god SCEA and SCEJ seems to be on the ball as far as game dev and IP go.

For example, the XMB and network play has steadily gotten small additions to it over this consoles lifespan, but it's been at a snails pace. There's a lot that could be done, especially tying in social media and web 2.0; but there's nothing on the horizon. The latest update is just another reminder of Sony snoozing again; 4.0 and nothing exciting to show for it.

The last thing I want on my Playstation is a bunch of social media crap

I agree.

I want to see upgrades but at the same time don't want to see PS3 OS & interface turned into a dumbed down user friendly OS that is locked down like IOS and Itunes crap that is on Iphones & IPAD'S.

It makes sense that ND would be apprehensive about the switch from PS3 to 4. They have arguably the most optimized code for the PS3. Switching to the next gen will be more of an equalizer in the wrong direction (for them) than others.

-Suntan

Let the new XBOX come out, drop the PS3 to $99, and watch which sells better.

I know it'll never happen, but it would be pretty funny.

Not the most avid gamer these days but overall I'd love them to focus a bit more on polishing up the features that are there, instead of adding more unpolished stuff.

I'm happy with the concept of what the PS3 delivers and would buy another iteration if they just focused on polishing up existing features.

I want to be able to load a save game file right from the PS3 main menu without having to load the game and go through its menus.

Faster in game load times. Just menu screens in some of the games I do play takes way too long.

Make media streaming easier. Still using PS3 media server but that should be a bundled service.

I've held off on buying additional PS3's because of having to manually transfer data files. It should either be part of their cloud offering or done via LAN. Either way its not something I should have to do manually.

Overall I'm still pleased with what the PS3 offered and have made the most of it. I can't imagine any new upgrades from a video quality perspective that will get me to buy at release like I did with the PS3. I'd be happy if they just focused on integrating the features that are in the PS3 today and making them more seamless from a user perspective. Polish it up, make what you have easier to use, and I'll buy.

Yup.

-Home really should have been a 3D Clan support, leader board and launcher program. Instead it's sims light with advertising. Some sort of party system / clan system / gaming social media needs to be built in from the go, and pushed to the Dev's. Not only does it make sense from a marketing and advertising standpoint, gamers would love it (even casuals).

-Cross game chat, even if you need to buy a PSV to sync to a PSV, should have been implemented.

ect.

I'm pretty sure ND and Ice team shaped what the PS4 will look like. I would not be surprised to see them make UC4 as a launch title.

^^^ i hope so because i don't think they can do much more graphically on the ps3. i want a huge jump with uc4, and that just isn't going to happen on the ps3.


last i read, the ps3 is at 52 million sold and the xbox is at 55 million sold. so what is this "not so well" that you're referring to? pretty sure neither company is complaining about selling 50 plus million of anything.

Two more good examples of refining what they have. In so many ways its easier to just focus on new features rather than fight the protracted, less glamorous slog, of improving existing functionality.

The_Future

The PlayStation 4 (PS4) is not far off, and if the PS4 is a PS3 shrunk into the size of the PSP, then technology will have better caught up with demand. It seems a mobile PS4 or iPhone or iPad that can plug into a big screen via HDMI, and has capabilities of touchscreen, miniature speakers, digital camera, multi-array microphone, mobile phone, FM/AM radio, TV reception, GPS, motion sensing (accelerometer), local connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and/or IrDA), and projection glasses output, will bring in the next generation personal technical device. This device would, of course, be able to have it's own static ip to host servers for webpages and other types of next generation internet services, or web protocols.

Information about the PS4 should be easy to predict, however. The PS1 used CD format; the PS2 used DVD format; the PS3 used Blu-ray format; and the PS4 should use holographic disc (HVD or something similar). The PS1 had stereo sound; the PS2 had Dolby Digital 5.1 sound; the PS3 had lossless 7.1 channel sound; and the PS4 should have 9.1 channel (includes speakers on top of your head and below you). The PS1 had low resolution TV display; the PS2 had SDTV display; the PS3 had HDTV display; and the PS4 should have even higher definition or allow wearable projected displays. The PS1 had no harddrive; the PS2 had optional harddrive; the PS3 had mandatory harddrive; and the PS4 should have huge storage capabilities (flash, harddrive, or external). The PS1 had no internet connection; the PS2 had optional wired (10/100Base-T) internet connection; the PS3 had internet connection built-in (wired 1000BASE-T and wireless 802.11b/g); and the PS4 should have built-in 100 Gigabit Ethernet wired (or even faster optical) and 802.11n or faster wireless internet connection. The PS1 and PS2 had vibrating wired controllers; the PS3 had wireless, vibrating, motion-sensing controllers; and the PS4 should have wireless, motion-sensing, wearable controllers that detect not just hand movements, but your feet, head, or other appendages in 3D, and can not just vibrate your various appendages, but blow air in your face, flash different lights in your eyes, and even shock you in different places too.

If the PlayStation 4 interests you, visit PlayStation 4 Secrets

graphics. that all i care about every generation. but day one? i don't think anything because the launch game selection is usually garbage. actually, it might always be garbage.

sorry, but that website lost me with "late 2011" as a probable release date.

Resistance: Fall of Man is not garbage.

From: Shock PS4 Announcement 'Set for E3'


That last bit is a little contradictory, right? Maybe they mean we'll get a tease but no real details? Either way this rumor mill stuff is a kick and I can't wait to see how it shakes out.

From: Forbes.com


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