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post #301 of 4285
What is the deal with the local stations are the going to stay on 24hrs or not WHO signal was off and on all day today from 7am-2pm, anyone know if they will be running 24hrs soon. I would rather see CBS 24hrs because I could watch my Young and the restless in HD.

Andrew
post #302 of 4285
WHO (NBC) going to increase their OTA time from the current primetime only ... and increase it noon --> midnight by May 2003 according to Brad Olk, Chief Engineer.
post #303 of 4285
good just in time for conan in HD
post #304 of 4285
Conan has HD cameras already like Letterman .... but Letterman isn't starting until September in HD ... do you know when Conan starts HD broadcasts?? Has their been an official announcement that I missed?
post #305 of 4285
Conan is said to be going by the end of February
post #306 of 4285
There are so many of us in the Des Moines market that are so incredibly disappointed in WOI-TV (ABC) for not making the SuperBowl deadline as previously scheduled. They've had their equipment for months and have had plenty of time to get it up on the tower. I guess unlike some markets and stations, WOI doesn't consider their HD viewers an important priority. The FCC deadline was almost a YEAR ago for commercial stations. WOI is also planning on being 480i only for awhile (no 720p HD). I am just so tired of chronic excuse-makers and people that do the bare minimum. If the FCC weren't requiring digital signals, some of these stations would NEVER switch on their own. I know there are costs, but we had to spend thousands on our TV's too.
post #307 of 4285
There is a way to put pressure on WOI if we're so inclined. They are clearly dragging their feet because they don't want the operating costs of running two transmitters at the same time. Unless we make it economic for them to get in gear, they won't.

We can compile a list of advertisers and send them letters stating we are boycotting WOI advertisers until they are broadcasting in HD. We can include a little bit of history so they'll understand why we're upset.

Anyone interested?
post #308 of 4285
I'm for putting WOI's feet to the fire. If you get a list together, let us know Dave. This is absolutely insane, between the whole digital fiasco and their refusal to come to an agreement with Dish over locals.

I wonder whether a candid letter to ABC would help anything? At least in my house, ABC loses out on my programming simply because my analog WOI is unwatchable. Why would I watch a crappy static filled mess, when I can pick up CSI and ER in HD on the digital channels. I don't even check WOI for programming unless it is Monday Night Football or similar.

Let me know who to send a letter to.
post #309 of 4285
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Originally posted by AbbeyRoad
There is a way to put pressure on WOI if we're so inclined. They are clearly dragging their feet because they don't want the operating costs of running two transmitters at the same time. Unless we make it economic for them to get in gear, they won't.

We can compile a list of advertisers and send them letters stating we are boycotting WOI advertisers until they are broadcasting in HD. We can include a little bit of history so they'll understand why we're upset.

Anyone interested?

If we combine the HDTV issue with the lack of carry on Dish Network, I think we will have a stronger case. They could consider HDTV a fringe issue right now with limited viewership. However, Dish Network said their take rate in Des Moines was higher than expected, so this means real loss of viewers. I would combine both issues in any correspondance. Yes - I will contribute. Also, send all of your comments to mporter@woitv.com, the station manager. Apparently, on advice of their attorney, he is no longer responding to emails, but he will likely read them. If you read their excuse on their website about the Dish Network issue, they think they are 100% right in this whole deal.
post #310 of 4285
Thinking about this contacting advertisers idea, I think we need to be specific to target LOCAL (Des Moines) advertisers. It is worthless to target someone like GM who is advertising on ABC. We need to target the local companies that are choosing WOI. We should also copy our letters to the advertising staff at WOI (email at their website). They work hard to pull in advertisers and if they know there are people who are trying to change that, there may be some internal dissension at WOI that could help them make a deal.
post #311 of 4285
I meant just local advertisers and I agree we should keep the WOI sales force informed. They can become our allies. Every time I attempt to contact ABC it just gets forwarded to WOI.
post #312 of 4285
If it wasn't for football, I wouldn't ever watch WOI. Thier analog signal is so poor I refuse to watch movies or anything else on it.

This may have been answered already, but has anyone heard anymore about Mediacom going HDTV yet??

I called a couple weeks ago and the person I spoke with didn't really know anything except that it is coming.

Phil
post #313 of 4285
Tonight, I noticed 3 local advertisers in about 90 minutes of programming: Bedroom Expressions Furniture (Des Moines), Redekers Furniture (Boone) and Hy-Vee (West Des Moines).
post #314 of 4285
I will certainly be on board with any pressure we could put on WOI to get their act together with DISH, DirecTV (June 2003), and HDTV. I guarantee you they will not allow retrans on DirecTV when they are asked. My advice is to continue to watch for LOCAL commercials on WOI. Then send an email that you have prewritten to the (advertising) company's email address regarding boycotting due to their tactics and practices. Keeping pressure on Marshall Porter at WOI also doesn't hurt even though he wont respond. I guarantee he reads them. JeffCarp has posted 3 local companies already. Any more?
post #315 of 4285
Here is my thoughts on an email to advertisers.
"As television viewers in Des Moines, we understand that your company advertises on WOI-TV Channel 5. We would like you to be aware, if you are not already, that there are a significant number of viewers in the Des Moines market that can no longer view WOI-TV. Thus, your target audience has been limited. In November, Dish Network began serving the Des Moines market and all major local stations with the exception of WOI have reached a carriage agreement with Dish Network. As more and more viewers switch from Mediacom to Dish Network, your WOI-TV advertising is reaching a smaller audience. We hope that you will join us in expressing your concern about this situation to WOI-TV and encourage them to reach an agreement with Dish Network."
post #316 of 4285
I think that we should somehow mention the problems with the digital station (or lack thereof) and also throw in the future potential of problems with DirecTV's local carry agreement
post #317 of 4285
I disagree that we should talk about Directv. We have no idea what will happen with the Directv. As soon as we resort to speculating we lose credibility and also open up the possibility of slandering WOI. You have to remember there are lawyers involved in this. Stick only to the facts that exist today.
post #318 of 4285
Why don't we just ask why The Iowa city affiliate that is 1/2 the market share is broadcasting In HDTV and that most DTV watchers are now watching KCRG instead of WOI

Check out there Web site on HDTV

http://www.kcrg.com/feature_list.aspx?cat_id=196

Andrew
post #319 of 4285
Jeff, you are right. Speculation will probably do little to advance the cause. My bad. I would like to see the digital channel issue highlighted a little more though. I have serious doubts that I will pick up locals when they do become available on DirecTV, so I have little passion for the carry agreement issue anyway. If they were going to broadcast the HD feeds I would, but if the digitals are running then it comes down to picture quality and the digital can pass HD, Dish and DirecTV won't.

I will try to watch some WOI tonight to expand our list a little.
post #320 of 4285
has anyone herd anything about mediacom and HDTV the fcc says mediacom would be offering HDTV signals free of charge by January 2003

http://www.ncta.com/press/press.cfm?...howArticles=ok
post #321 of 4285
Is anyone in the Des Moines area successfully picking up any distant digital signals (ie: KCRG in Iowa City)?

If so, what is your antenna arrangement and what is the signal quality? What channels are they?

My projector had to go in the shop, so no CSI tonight. Bummer. Lots of weird red ghosts around skin tones next to a dark background. At least Sanyo has a Quick Repair Program, they even paid for the overnight shipping as part of the warranty. We will see how long it actually takes them to get it fixed now. Supposedly a 24-48 hour turn around time.

kool, no idea about mediacom. Sorry.
post #322 of 4285
I just got this email from channel 11, KDIN:

KDIN, an Iowa Public Television station located in Alleman, will be testing its digital signal Friday, January 31, 2003 on channel 50 from 8:00AM to about 4:00PM. Please let me know what you think by e-mailing me at karen.schaeffer@iptv.org.

I haven't seen their HD yet; anxious for more besides CBS & NBC...
post #323 of 4285
Thread Starter 
Oookool,

I haven't heard anything about mediacom either.

Jtuck2,

Assuming that the UHF signal travels about the same distance as an FM radio signal. I listen to radio stations from cedar rapids on my way back from the Quad Cities and lose them right around Newton. Best of luck with your projector.

Clones83,

IPTV has the best programming available!!! Visually stunning outdoor scenes. It will probably be the same loop that most of the PBS stations are running. I have about 15 hours of this recorded and I look foward to recording more!!! Some of the stuff they show, you have to pay $29.95 at www.hdnet.com. I hope to get the travel show that shows Chicago!!!

Thank you for the news!!!

Mark
post #324 of 4285
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Originally posted by o00kool
has anyone heard anything about mediacom and HDTV? the fcc says mediacom would be offering HDTV signals free of charge by January 2003.

I know the deadline was this month, and have not heard anything. Mediacom NEVER updates their news on the website either. VOD is also listed as coming very soon with Mediacom. I don't know if any of you noticed, but a WHOLE BUNCH of channels were moved around today on the cable network. Maybe this is in preparation to begin HD & VOD service? I could call them and ask, but I don't feel like sitting on hold for 90 minutes only to get some putz that doesn't even know what the hell HD is.
post #325 of 4285
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Originally posted by jtuck2
Is anyone in the Des Moines area successfully picking up any distant digital signals? If so, what is your antenna arrangement and what is the signal quality? What channels are they?

I have not had any luck, and have tried. But then again, I only have a powered attic antenna. I have been waiting to spend the cash and put an ugly large rooftop antenna up until I heard from others in the Des Moines area being able to pick up OMAHA, IOWA CITY, CEDAR RAPIDS, WATERLOO, QUAD CITIES, etc. If anyone else is having luck getting these stations, let us know so I can go buy one. God knows that WOI will NEVER get their act together and get ABC on the air, let alone in High Def. They aren't even returning anyones phone calls or email messages anymore. Slackers ... and don't even get me started on KPWB.
post #326 of 4285
I saw that the channels got renumbered for Mediacom today. There is a VOD section in the menu also. I saw it yesterday, but it wasn't active then. Haven't tried yet today. I also saw a VOD commercial that said coming soon. Some HD on cable would rock since I can't get satellite due to southern view obstruction.
post #327 of 4285
I have had some luck getting the Des Moines Stations, WHO-DT, KCCI-DT and IPTV, but mostly during the summer and fall months. Not too much luck lately. I am in Cedar Rapids, two story house with an attic antenna, Channel Master double (8) bow tie type and a Radio Shack mast mount amp. If you want to try, the 2000 foot tower is midway between Waterloo and Cedar Rapids, at Walker, IA. KCRG is still installing studio equipment but has been airing all of the HDTV programing from ABC with a full power signal on channel 52-1. They are only on the air when there is HDTV material from ABC to transmitt.

Jim
post #328 of 4285
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Originally posted by j lehner
I have had some luck getting the Des Moines Stations, WHO-DT, KCCI-DT and IPTV, but mostly during the summer and fall months. Not too much luck lately. I am in Cedar Rapids, two story house with an attic antenna, Channel Master double (8) bow tie type and a Radio Shack mast mount amp. If you want to try, the 2000 foot tower is midway between Waterloo and Cedar Rapids, at Walker, IA. KCRG is still installing studio equipment but has been airing all of the HDTV programing from ABC with a full power signal on channel 52-1. They are only on the air when there is HDTV material from ABC to transmit.

Thanks for the info ... have you tried moving your UHF antenna to the rooftop to get a sronger signal from Des Moines (at least just to test the possibility)?? Maybe the stations would come in the wintertime as well?
post #329 of 4285
I have thought about moving it outside, but 2 story house roofs don't agree with me, so I would have to have someone do it. I might in the spring if the CBS station in Cedar Rapids, doesn't start passing HD when they move to the KCRG tower. Right now, they are at low power, 500 watts from what I have heard, and only 480I. Many nights I get a mid 20's signal from Des Moines on a DTC100, so it would more then likely get me a usable signal outside.
post #330 of 4285
Thanks for the info Jim, I will give it a try tonight if KCRG has some HD material on. I assume their website announces when they will be transmitting?

Clones, how did you come to receive this update from IPTV? Is this simply the mailing list for testers on their website? I sure would like to get on this list if it is publicly available.

Thanks.
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