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post #4171 of 4285
It was WHO's issue. They acknowledged that in a Facebook posting as well.

Apparently it's related to another technology upgrade that they're putting in now, which they would not elaborate on, but seem to think we'll notice and consider it to be super neato.

I'm hoping for smell-o-vision.
post #4172 of 4285
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Originally Posted by oldtvlover View Post

I called WHO TV and was told that Antenna TV on the 13.3 channel will begin sometime in February. She wasn't able to give a specific date but said they were shooting for February.

I hope u gets get it soon. antenna tv I know is working on getting here in Omaha where I am.
post #4173 of 4285
http://www.whotv.com/entertainment/antennatv/

is the who site on antenna tv. aka channel 13.3
post #4174 of 4285
I'm watching the Super Bowl on KDSM @ 720p. Is that the best KDSM can do?
post #4175 of 4285
All Fox programming is in 720p and has been since 2004.

- Trip
post #4176 of 4285
Thanks Trip, I have a new TV that shows the resolution. My old RPTV HDTV didn't have that feature.
post #4177 of 4285
Antenna TV is up. 13-3. Rescan now so you can watch Three's Company.
post #4178 of 4285
Official notice (courtesy WHO's Facebook feed, which implies Mediacon isn't up and running just yet...):

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Good News! The long-awaited launch of Antenna TV is here! We're now transmitting on WHO-HD Channel 13.3. To receive our new channel over-the-air, go the the "Channel Set-Up" screen of your HD television and select "Scan for Channels". If you're a Mediacom digital subscriber, you'll soon see Antenna TV on channel 114. Take a fun trip down memory lane with Antenna TV.
post #4179 of 4285
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Originally Posted by tesg View Post

Official notice (courtesy WHO's Facebook feed, which implies Mediacon isn't up and running just yet...):

Mediacom 114 should be up by next week. Huxley Communications 815 should be up by next week as well.
post #4180 of 4285
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Is anyone seeing K41DD-D on the air? It's not carrying anything but home shopping, so nothing to go hunting for; I'm just curious if someone can confirm it's operating.

Yes it is. Noticed while re-scanning tonight.
post #4181 of 4285
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Originally Posted by tesg View Post

Yes it is. Noticed while re-scanning tonight.

Too lazy to look...is that one of the old LP's converted to digital? Yay.
post #4182 of 4285
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Originally Posted by grich View Post

Too lazy to look...is that one of the old LP's converted to digital? Yay.

u guys are luckier than omaha. our 2 LP tv stations left we got in omaha

koha 47.1 aka channel 48 and k61ga are dragging their feet to convert to digital.


we lost channels 24/57/53/54/67 all hear in last year or two.
post #4183 of 4285
Antenna TV is now hot on Mediacom 114 in Central Iowa.
post #4184 of 4285
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Originally Posted by djbrettb View Post

I've also noticed a huge reception improvement from KCCI here in Ames.

Would love to say KCCI has been authorized to raise power, but afraid it's the same old 28.3kw it's been since June 2009. Now the political battle has become so much about keeping the broadcast spectrum, period, that discussion of revisiting VHF-band power allocations at the FCC seems to be out the window.
post #4185 of 4285
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Originally Posted by grich View Post

Antenna TV is now hot on Mediacom 114 in Central Iowa.

We watched a little yesterday. It was kinda choppy at times. Not sure who's to blame there.

i'm a young pup but I enjoyed it.
post #4186 of 4285
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Originally Posted by nicholasmcgrew View Post

We watched a little yesterday. It was kinda choppy at times. Not sure who's to blame there.

i'm a young pup but I enjoyed it.

As a young pup you are probably shocked that your parents dressed like those people on the TV shows and thought they looked good. I always wore jeans and t-shirts back then...I'm still unfashionable today.

I've seen it choppy on a digital cable box, too, but rock-solid on a DTV with a QAM tuner.

Somebody I know wasn't getting 114 on their cable box (tuner skips from 113 to 118), and the Mediacom CSR told them they had no listing for 114 in Des Moines. I know their call center is in a far-away place, but . I told them to power-cycle their cable box.

At home, I watch it OTA, and it's fine.
post #4187 of 4285
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Originally Posted by cpwilde View Post

...Now the political battle has become so much about keeping the broadcast spectrum, period, that discussion of revisiting VHF-band power allocations at the FCC seems to be out the window.

Amazing to see how little butt-kissing power the National Association of Broadcasters has now, compared to the Consumer Electronics Association and the cell companies. Are we going to kill OTA TV and hand out broadband/sat/cable vouchers to the poor? OTA is the only way many cash-strapped people get TV.
post #4188 of 4285
I know a lot of viewers have trouble getting WOI (Ch 5), it being a lower-end VHF station, etc. I've always been lucky: except during heavy weather (thuner/snow storms) I can get it pretty well. Occasional, very minor pixelation, but mostly totally watchable.

But for the last couple weeks, the signal's been breaking up into the unwatchable. Anybody else having this who wasn't before, say, mid-January?

I'm out east toward Baxter-Newton way.
post #4189 of 4285
No problems with 5 here in Waukee (or at least 5.2). And I'm using rabbit ears.
post #4190 of 4285
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Originally Posted by cpwilde View Post

Would love to say KCCI has been authorized to raise power, but afraid it's the same old 28.3kw it's been since June 2009. Now the political battle has become so much about keeping the broadcast spectrum, period, that discussion of revisiting VHF-band power allocations at the FCC seems to be out the window.

The articles I've been reading suggest they're aware of the VHF issues and will be looking for ways to make the band more workable, especially if they're going to lop 20 channels off the top of UHF and repack. I'm not sure what you would do with a channel like 5, though.
post #4191 of 4285
Is anybody using a directtv tuner to receive 13-3?

I am using directtv hd dvr receiver and am getting all off air channels except 13-3. I have rescanned several times to no avail. I do get 13-3 with my TV's tuner but I can't dvr anything from 13-3 which is why I want to be able to get it through directtv's receiver.

Directtv tech is trying to tell me that it is a "bandwith" issue and that nobody can receive 13-3 from the Des Moines area. Is that true?

I don't understand how it could be a bandwith issue, a money issue sure but not a bandwith issue.

Thanks,
Bryan
post #4192 of 4285
Just noticed the new OTA channel, "Country Network" is up on 17.3
post #4193 of 4285
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Originally Posted by btw2003 View Post

Directtv tech is trying to tell me that it is a "bandwith" issue and that nobody can receive 13-3 from the Des Moines area. Is that true?

I don't understand how it could be a bandwith issue, a money issue sure but not a bandwith issue.

He doesn't understand what you're trying to do. He's trying to explain that DirecTV doesn't have the bandwidth to carry sub-channels in every local market, and thus DirecTV doesn't uplink sub-channels to their satellites. This is true.

This of course, has absolutely nothing to do with what you're trying to do -- which is receive WHO 13.3 over the air.

Do you have an HD-DVR? I believe there is an issue with those boxes where you can't really "scan" for anything -- you're just reliant on if and or when 13.3 is added to the guide data. I believe only the non-DVR HD boxes can actually do a scan and pick up OTA channels without them being added to the guide.

Basically, you can't do anything to get 13.3 until DirecTV's guide data supplier adds it on their end.
post #4194 of 4285
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Originally Posted by Brew View Post

He doesn't understand what you're trying to do. He's trying to explain that DirecTV doesn't have the bandwidth to carry sub-channels in every local market, and thus DirecTV doesn't uplink sub-channels to their satellites. This is true.

This of course, has absolutely nothing to do with what you're trying to do -- which is receive WHO 13.3 over the air.

Do you have an HD-DVR? I believe there is an issue with those boxes where you can't really "scan" for anything -- you're just reliant on if and or when 13.3 is added to the guide data. I believe only the non-DVR HD boxes can actually do a scan and pick up OTA channels without them being added to the guide.

Basically, you can't do anything to get 13.3 until DirecTV's guide data supplier adds it on their end.

They know I am wanting to receive the off air subchannels through the antenna and I don't expect all the subchannels from the satellite. So they understand what I want but they claim they can't deliver it because they don't have the bandwith. Yeah I know it is just an excuse to get rid of me.

The way I see it the HD dvr should pass through whatever the antenna delivers to it. I don't really care if there is no guide data I can look online to find out the schedule and just do a manual record.

How do I find out directtv's guide data supplier and request they add all the subchannels for the Des Moines area locals?

Thanks,
Bryan
post #4195 of 4285
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Originally Posted by btw2003 View Post

They know I am wanting to receive the off air subchannels through the antenna and I don't expect all the subchannels from the satellite. So they understand what I want but they claim they can't deliver it because they don't have the bandwith. Yeah I know it is just an excuse to get rid of me.

The way I see it the HD dvr should pass through whatever the antenna delivers to it. I don't really care if there is no guide data I can look online to find out the schedule and just do a manual record.

How do I find out directtv's guide data supplier and request they add all the subchannels for the Des Moines area locals?

Thanks,
Bryan

Bryan,

I'd go ask this question on DBSTalk.com. They should be able to explain this issue better than me.

As I understand it, the DirecTV HD Receivers (non-DVRs) can do a normal OTA scan, find all available channels and display them... just like a normal HDTV can, digital converter box, etc.

However, DirecTV's HD DVRs can't actually do this. There's no way to do an OTA scan on an HD DVR and have those channels added as something tuneable. Instead, you have to wait for the box to receive updated guide data that says, "Yes, there is a 13.3. It's available on RF channel 13." You can't just scan and go find it. Not sure why this limitation is still in place, as it's been an issue on HD-DVRs through DirecTV dating back a few years.

The reason I remember this to begin with was when IPTV (11) re-shuffled their sub-channels a few years back... everyone on HD-DVRs through DirecTV that got their channels OTA were screwed up until they finally got DirecTV's guide data subscriber to submit an updated sub-channel listing.
post #4196 of 4285
Thanks Brew,

I shot another email asking directv who supplies their guide data so that I can contact them to see about adding all the subchannels.
I was unaware my receiver lacked the ability to scan the off air channels.

Bryan
post #4197 of 4285
I got my directv hd dvr to tune to channel 13-3. Of course the guide data is all wrong but at least I can manually record now.

How did I do it? I searched for tv stations broadcasting on a 13-3 subchannel and entered that zipcode as the secondary market. Indianapolis in this case worked. 46202

So directv's excuse that they don't have the bandwidth is total bs.
I just need to find a zipcode that has channel 17.3 and a 13.3 to get all the subchannels.

Now I can record those great All in the Family episodes.


Bryan
post #4198 of 4285
KCCI is now advertising 4/26/11 as the date they will start HD newscasts.
post #4199 of 4285
Hey guys,

I just grabbed an AntennaDirect Micron. I can get everything but woi (5.1).I get nothing here. Any ideas on why this would be (antennaweb says short range, yellow). I notice that there were others have some issues with WOI.

Thanks,
Jim
post #4200 of 4285
WOI transmits simultaneously on VHF-5 (which the Micron probably will never receive since its designed for UHF reception) from a tower midway between Ames and Des Moines and on UHF-50 from a 600' tower (at only 3.2 kW) located at Grand and 9th in Des Moines.

You will need to try one of the following:

Locate the Micron so it can best see the UHF signal from downtown on 50. Rescan to see what you get and see where you have to place the antenna so as to get the best compromise of reception for it and the rest of the channels.

Try a simple loop and rabbit ears. Adjust the rabbit ears as long as possible since WOI's VHF-5 signal needs an REALLY BIG (wide) antenna for efficient reception.
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