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post #1111 of 1237
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So they gave Belle a "bad girl" personality, she was even enjoying Gold beating up that guy...

Yeah... they basically set women-in-healthy-relationships back at least a generation with that "twist" ending.
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I can't say this episode made any sense. The queen reasons that by killing Snow, her subjects will love her. Huh? Then she kills an entire village. Even not knowing what comes next in Fairyland, there is plenty of reason to kill Regina as soon as the curse was lifted. The dwarfs, for one, would have done it.

Like Lost, they are treading water with the plot. They need an end date to give them some direction.
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It's looking more like the show will eventually end with them returning to fairytale Land. If so, I will be pretty disappointed. the big attraction to this story (for me) was the idea of the fairytale characters living in the real world.

If they end up back in Fairytale Land, it becomes just another fairytale story. Nothing original about that.

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post #1114 of 1237
Kind of hard right now coming back after Regina torched the bean field, she's the only one that has a little plant now.

It's kind of sad how many times Snow has forgiven and saved Regina and she's still at it trying to ruin her..
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Looks like we may have a little less of eye-candy Red/Ruby next season. Meghan Ory's new show Intelligence was picked up by CBS starting midseason. Based on the description given from CBS, it looks like she is basically the female lead, so she would presumeably not have a lot of extra time for OUAT.
post #1116 of 1237
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Kind of hard right now coming back after Regina torched the bean field, she's the only one that has a little plant now.

It's kind of sad how many times Snow has forgiven and saved Regina and she's still at it trying to ruin her..

Exactly...considering they are not living in fairyland anymore...they should be able to put away a person who wants you dead all the time. Where is "self defense"
post #1117 of 1237
Mmmm

They are going to Neverland, and then they do a spinoff based on Wonderland, I'm guessing some of the characters here will cross over?

But the Queen of Hearts was Regina's mom.. mmm

So, the bad looking guy on neverland pickup up kids was Peter Pan and something there takes the shadows off, that explains the shadow that took Bael there was the shadow of Peter..
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So basically the Dark One fears the Shadow entity, presumably the same being that took Wendy to Neverland. Only thing I didn't understand is that the Dark One is supposed to be immortal. Nothing can kill him except for the dagger. So what's the big deal about plants growing over the roads and town? He's still an immortal, near omnipotent being. Weird how he is supposedly doomed because of this. The other thing I also didn't get is why he didn't help Regina contain the power from the spinning diamond thingy. He is supposedly MUCH more powerful than her.

I don't know, for all his power, he seemed pretty useless and doesn't really do much on the show. You would think he would do SOMETHING with his power, but he's just impotent.
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The thing was is that ALL magical/forest people were going to die, including the Dark One, only one that will remain alive was going to be Henry because he was born here.. yeah it never occurred to Regina asking for help with the Diamond..
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How would they die? How would the Dark One die? Perhaps I missed that part of the episode but I don't get it. If the dagger wasn't the only thing which could kill the Dark One then surely someone would have tried to kill him. They keep on making such a fuss over the dagger. Since whatever Regina did was magical in nature and since the Dark One is nigh omnipotent and immortal I don't see how would die. Unless he was stabbed with his dagger.
post #1121 of 1237
Magic works differently "here" than in fairytale land... they established that early on, where Regina had to adapt and things didn't work like they used to.

Also... they did ask Rumple to help... he declined. He basically said with his son presumed dead, he had nothing left to live for so he didn't care if he died.... so that's why he was of no help with the diamond.
post #1122 of 1237
Rumple almost died with hook's poisoned hook, saved by Cora's death with the candle..

So not only the dagger can kill him.
post #1123 of 1237
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Rumple almost died with hook's poisoned hook, saved by Cora's death with the candle..

So not only the dagger can kill him.

That was because he was outside the town and had no magic ability. He was a normal human.
post #1124 of 1237
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That was because he was outside the town and had no magic ability. He was a normal human.

And the magic reset button was a MAGIC reset button... it was going to destroy the fake town and everything fake in it... I don't think it unreasonable to think it would have also killed Rumple.
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Surprised no one has posted on the new season premiere. I wasn't a fan of the show before but I thought this was a very strong season opener!

I'm very intrigued with Peter Pan being more powerful than the Dark One. Even Rumple admits he wouldn't survive a confrontation with Pan. eek.gif

That's pretty shocking. I thought the Dark One could not be killed without the special magic dagger. Pan must be a lot more ancient and powerful to be able to do that.
post #1126 of 1237
Well, for one thing, he's a coward. The ripping out of "shadows" is pretty scary. Rules of magic which apply in one fantasy world might not apply in another. Maybe his supposed indestructibility was wrong or a lie.

And maybe the writers are discarding the original rules because they want to tell a particular story. Having someone be invulnerable does tend to kill the suspense.
post #1127 of 1237
It was a good season opener. Their budget must have been raised because there were lots of special effects in this episode.
post #1128 of 1237
I guess mermaids are not cute and cuddly in this universe.

I thought the recap episode was okay for its type.

So, what's going on "back at the ranch" (Storybrook)? smile.gif
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So, what's going on "back at the ranch" (Storybrook)? smile.gif

We do not know, yet.
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Was waiting for the Mermaids to break into song. I could have used some Under The Sea.biggrin.gif

Seems everyone is afraid of Pan, even Rumple. Should be an interesting back story there.

A little too much slow motion on the ship during the storm. But a fun episode to kick off the new season nonetheless.
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I realize that they aren't being totally faithful to the source material, but I don't remember Peter Pan being that much of a jerk in the J. M. Barrie books. And definitely not as a creepy shadow ripping serial killer dude.
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Originally Posted by OllieS View Post

Surprised no one has posted on the new season premiere. I wasn't a fan of the show before but I thought this was a very strong season opener!

I'm very intrigued with Peter Pan being more powerful than the Dark One. Even Rumple admits he wouldn't survive a confrontation with Pan. eek.gif

That's pretty shocking. I thought the Dark One could not be killed without the special magic dagger. Pan must be a lot more ancient and powerful to be able to do that.

That is the problem for us, they continue to change the rules. He is all powerful, then he isn't. Then he is, now he wouldn't survive. Magic sure seems to work the same in this world per Regina and all the casting, and Rumple pulling out hearts, etc.

Sooooo inconsistent the writers need to stop it. Why didn't Regina use magic to stop the storm? Why didn't she use magic to teleport her when she jumped in the water? Why didn't she use magic to teleport them both to the boat instead of pulling them in by the rope (she teleported the mermaid from the net so it obviously could be done. Why didn't she use magic to levitate the boat (she commented her magic was strong enough to fix the boat so she could do a lot to the boat). Why didn't she use magic to just teleport them all to the island when trouble brewed? Why didn't she use magic to part the wave coming or levitate up or protect the ship. Etc. etc. etc.
post #1133 of 1237
That's really the inherent problem of bringing the magic back as they did at the end of season one... it results in too many scenarios where they have to contrive a reason NOT to use magic to solve whatever problem that comes up. Without magic, you can put them in all kinds of peril and wonder how they might survive... with magic, you scratch your head and wonder why they didn't "wish" themselves out of danger.
post #1134 of 1237
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

That is the problem for us, they continue to change the rules. He is all powerful, then he isn't. Then he is, now he wouldn't survive. Magic sure seems to work the same in this world per Regina and all the casting, and Rumple pulling out hearts, etc.

Sooooo inconsistent the writers need to stop it. Why didn't Regina use magic to stop the storm? Why didn't she use magic to teleport her when she jumped in the water? Why didn't she use magic to teleport them both to the boat instead of pulling them in by the rope (she teleported the mermaid from the net so it obviously could be done. Why didn't she use magic to levitate the boat (she commented her magic was strong enough to fix the boat so she could do a lot to the boat). Why didn't she use magic to just teleport them all to the island when trouble brewed? Why didn't she use magic to part the wave coming or levitate up or protect the ship. Etc. etc. etc.

That's basically why we pulled the plug on this show last year. Too inconsistent, and too many magical macguffins. While the first season was good fun, the second season just seemed to meander around pointlessly. We decided there wouldn't be a third season for us (or the AiW spinoff either).
post #1135 of 1237
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

That's basically why we pulled the plug on this show last year. Too inconsistent, and too many magical macguffins. While the first season was good fun, the second season just seemed to meander around pointlessly. We decided there wouldn't be a third season for us (or the AiW spinoff either).

I dropped it as well although we're in for the spinoff to at least check it out .. my wife still watches

My motivation for dropping was mainly : I could not stand the Prince .. the acting is generally terrible .. the show is inconsistent as hell .. there were too many plot lines going at once .. they seemed to want to drag every known fictional character into the mix , so much so I expected The Creature From The Black Lagoon to appear any minute ..
post #1136 of 1237
I'm still surprised Disney approved Peter Pan to be a evil guy even more evil and powerful than Rumple

The actor playing him looks creepy enough..
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FYI, the actress who played young Snow White is now starring as the daughter in Trophy Wife. She was not the daughter in the pilot. The actress was recast after it was picked up.
post #1138 of 1237
I was waiting to see Aquaman in this episode.
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I was waiting to see Aquaman in this episode.

Good one! biggrin.gif

Did he send the mermaids? tongue.gif
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I was waiting to see Aquaman in this episode.

Namor would be more likely.
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