Modern Warfare 3 - Page 8

Originally Posted by Kess

I watch a lot of Randy's videos, but for my money, it's hard to be F1st. this guy truly annihilates people, of all skill levels, on a regular basis. His videos stack up with insane scores. Like this one, where he goes 75-2. Seventy-five and TWO people. For god's sake, I can't even do that in combat training on frickin' easy. Enjoy...

Originally Posted by JukeBox360

Best advice is make sure your starting perk is hard line. That way you rack em up easier. I have assassin as the 1st perk earned so I get off the radar right away.

Originally Posted by robertbg007

You do realize these you tube douche clowns set these games up with people they know so they can run around and look good right? I mean come on just from this video alone everyone is just standing around or running right up to him without their guns being drawn. How many games of Hardhat has anyone been in where there is this much standing around? Same with the other video, everyone running around with their guns down. But if it's on the internet it must be true. If you compare these youtube guys to actual gameplay the games are really slow compared to reality. I NEVER see games by these guys that are anything like reality.

Originally Posted by blklightning


watch a sandy ravage live stream. he tops the boards pretty much every game. so i doubt that he's a dash boarder as kess claims. or sets his games up as you claim they all do.

honestly, i don't know why i'm even chiming in on this topic because it's so stupid and pointless. but i'm bored so whatever. it's probably the same reason i've ever seen a sandy ravage live stream. lol.

Originally Posted by bd2003


That's just silly. If you used assassin instead of hardline as your red perk, you'd be off the radar with no kills.

Originally Posted by bd2003


I run scavenger, assassin, dead silence. Then Quickdraw, marksman, blind eye.

Originally Posted by JukeBox360


Yet wasting time gathering up getting all your others. Hard line is the better perk to start with. Doesn't make any sense to start with ANY other perk.

Originally Posted by JukeBox360


Id never run that set up. Blind eye as last? Marksman in there at all? Really?

Originally Posted by tkntz

I can see it both ways. The hardline perk gets you to commando by the 7th kill. But doesn't make you a more dominant soldier until then. How would you stack them?

Originally Posted by blklightning


wow, that guy is terrible. one, he camps. and two, he is ridiculously annoying.

Originally Posted by blklightning


you should also start with stalker that way you aren't thrown off by it once you get it.

Originally Posted by bd2003


I'm thinking of switching blind eye out, but marksman is underrated. Great perk.

Originally Posted by bd2003


But I'm pretty damn sure you could use Hardline as your third specialist perk, and still get all perks in 7. That way you can have your cake and eat it too.

Originally Posted by JukeBox360


You could. But my point is you want as many perks as you can as fast as you can. Running hard line as a third doesn't give you an added benefit at all.

Originally Posted by bd2003


But what benefit does it give you if your first unlock is another red perk? I don't think you've thought this all the way through.

Originally Posted by JukeBox360


Why does it matter if it's another red perk? The importance of specialist is to run the most you can as quick as you can. Using hard line 1st does exactly this. Within the 1st ten seconds of the game you'll have 4 perks. 2 points later you would have 5. Yet you'd still only be on 4. Get it?

Originally Posted by bd2003

You might have 4 perks after 1 kill, but you only have 3 useful perks - Hardline just became dead weight, since from that point on, you get another perk every two kills, just as if you didn't have it. It doesn't matter how many perks you have, it only matters how many USEFUL perks you have.

So if you run Hardline, it'll take you three kills to get 4 useful perks. Without it, you can get 4 useful perks in 2 kills.

Hardline could be helpful if you want a second blue/green perk, because theres no other way to get two blue/green perk in less than two kills otherwise. But you can get any other red perk in 0 kills...by just choosing it instead of Hardline.

Originally Posted by teckademic

so I keep hearing that having one of those gaming headsets will increase the sounds you hear from the game like footsteps, gunfire and such, but how much more could I get out of a headset than having a surround system? I should have the same benefit of a headset by having a surround system, right? I've never used a headset before so I am not sure what they sound like, but my system is great as it is with movies and video games.

Originally Posted by greeno

Lots of chat about it in the xbox mw3 thread, but I play ps3 ms3 and wanted to hear what you guys think about how the game lag is now. I find it's better after the last update. there's less out and out unplayable, running into walls, being uncontrollable, but the lag compensation is bad sometimes - really bad. In one match of KC last night, I turn a corner with two enemies right in front running away. Easy kills? Now way, I empty a clip into the first guy (SCAR-L, impact, suppressor) and he doesn't even flinch, the second guy, farther ahead, turns and kills me with one burst, before I can reload.
I'm not the greatest player, but I've been in that situation before and nail both of those guys. I think it's the lag compensation that's applied because of some other player.
I had one other real indication something was amiss in the game. I watched a killcam on me by a guy with an AK47. The repeat rate for that gun was WAY slow on playback. I watched again and same thing. the AK's repeat rate was like 2x too slow. Something was just wrong.

I also felt like my bullets just did no damage even at close range. I got full on hit markers from the first shot, and they don't die. In the kill cam, I don't even see them taking any damage and I don't get any shots off. That's just wrong...

Anyway, other thoughts from folks?
Best,
jeff

Originally Posted by JukeBox360

I don't think it's about people not understanding how it would be without the lag compensation. I think it's just a matter of it not being enough. Mw2 did not have these issues even half as bad as this one.

This game still needs plenty of fixing.

Originally Posted by greeno

I get that lag compensation is needed and it's on. what I struggle with is, as a player, is how to deal with it. I seem to be most successful with weapons that have a higher fire rate (like the SMG PP901). But on larger maps where the engagements are at greater distance, this weapon is almost useless. On those maps I'll use the SCAR-L (suppressed+impact) and this is where I run into it.

I don't know what the solution is. I've played lots of MW2 and never felt this level of frustration (and it's maybe on 10-20% of the matches) regarding lag. The match last night I refer to, just pushed me over the edge enough to post today. what should have been an easy double kill (getting behind two guys at that close of range just doesn't happen to me that ofter), ends badly for me with the guy I emptied a clip into his back, kills me! AND the killcam shows me basically standing there like a dope, not shooting and dieing by the guy dancing around me killing me with a machine pistol. During the live engagement, that is far from what I was.

Anyway on another topic. Do the players here on PS3 want to form a group for playing like the Xbox players are? I'd be up for that.
Best,
jeff

Originally Posted by bd2003


Not being enough what? Compensation?

That's the thing. It's not a dial you turn up or down. Either it's on or it's not.

Mw2 had exactly the same issues. What it didn't have is a theater mode, where people could go back and do a forensic analysis of a kill, completely misunderstand how lag compensation works and in what ways the killcam is inaccurate (it's not enough to know that it just is, you have to know how), narrate a video without actually knowing wtf you're talking about and then posting it on YouTube and confusing/enraging a few million players.

And now you've got people saying idiotic things like slowing down your connection intentionally is going to make you do better. Yes, in one very narrow scenario it will....and it will **** you up in every other case.

I'm telling you guys...don't hold your breath for an upcoming "lag fix". You're going to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by greeno

I get that lag compensation is needed and it's on. what I struggle with is, as a player, is how to deal with it. I seem to be most successful with weapons that have a higher fire rate (like the SMG PP901). But on larger maps where the engagements are at greater distance, this weapon is almost useless. On those maps I'll use the SCAR-L (suppressed+impact) and this is where I run into it.

I don't know what the solution is. I've played lots of MW2 and never felt this level of frustration (and it's maybe on 10-20% of the matches) regarding lag. The match last night I refer to, just pushed me over the edge enough to post today. what should have been an easy double kill (getting behind two guys at that close of range just doesn't happen to me that ofter), ends badly for me with the guy I emptied a clip into his back, kills me! AND the killcam shows me basically standing there like a dope, not shooting and dieing by the guy dancing around me killing me with a machine pistol. During the live engagement, that is far from what I was.

Anyway on another topic. Do the players here on PS3 want to form a group for playing like the Xbox players are? I'd be up for that.
Best,
jeff

Originally Posted by greeno

I'll keep that in mind. The pain is minimal from the enjoyment of the game.

On yet another note, I was in a lobby last night with a player who had a rank of 8! I think the gamer tag was skulls_and_bones (I can look it up at home in my elite account). From his KD (0.7-0.8 range), win/loss (50%), etc. , they don't look that impressive. But the points per game/hour, they were HUGE, I forget the number. I've never played a match with a player who had a single digit ranking... They had about 70 hours total MW3 play time.

Best,
jeff