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i'm curious as to how that works... it implies that the avr can maintain multiple handshakes....

well, there is still only one sink (the display) so as long as each of the HDMI sources are OK with the sink, seems like the multiple handshakes shouldn't be a problem.

of course, HDMI has a way of surprising us! tongue.gif

yea, it does... tongue.gif it'll be interesting to see how well this works...
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actually my reading is that it IS possible to achieve 6.1 with the extra 3 amps bi-amping the FR, FL, and C channels.
according to that chart, when in "Custom" free assign mode, the C, SL, and SR channels are "fixed" an non-assignable (although the "-" seems to indicate that they can be deactivated), but the other 6 amps are fully assignable to ANY channel (with the caveat that left is always left, right is always right).
that means you could leave the five main amps at their normal settings (FR, FL, C, SR, SL), reassign the front height amps to also power the FR and FL, and then use whatever SB amp you aren't using to assign to C and bi-amp the center.

You might be right! I assumed speaker assignment can be done in pairs only, and with the possibility lost to assign SB to post C (as is with the 4810) things would get complicated. But you are right, free assign means free assign.
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well, I'm just interpreting a chart wink.gif the proof will be in the pudding when someone actually tries it and verifies!
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well, I'm just interpreting a chart wink.gif the proof will be in the pudding when someone actually tries it and verifies!

I'll let you know!
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Dont know if anybody has noticed, but the 4520 is on the Canadian site. http://ca.denon.com/ca/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?CatId=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=b1c577bc-e2cb-468e-944f-f39e9f42f28b

Quick question, if i have something like my cable box connected to the 4520 through HDMI, will it pass the audio and video through the receiver even if it is off? Sometimes I dont want to turn on the receiver or speakers.

thanks
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it went live on the US site already too, as an FYI there is a 4520 official thread now that it's about to hit the streets: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1430049/the-official-denon-avr-4520ci-thread

all Denon receivers for 3-4 years now have had an HDMI standby passthrough feature. The 4520 has a really flexible system though because of its 3rd matrixed HDMI output, so you can designate any of the 3 outputs as the control monitor or just send the matrixed ouput to another TV for cable TV viewing.
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Thanks for the info batpig. I didn't realize there was a thread already. Much appreciated.
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After struggling to hook up my old Sony progressive scan DVD player via component cable to my 2313, I'm thinking I might be better off getting a new DVD player with hdmi upscaling. Was wondering if the 2313 has hdmi up scaling built in and would a DVD player with up scaling work better or be similar to my old DVD player?
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Why struggling??????????
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Picture is blurry and no sound. Ran through DVD component. Thought I might try through cable input and rename to DVD. Even if it works, I don't think there is up scaling without hdmi cable, or does the 2313 do up scaling regardless.
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After struggling to hook up my old Sony progressive scan DVD player via component cable to my 2313, I'm thinking I might be better off getting a new DVD player with hdmi upscaling. Was wondering if the 2313 has hdmi up scaling built in and would a DVD player with up scaling work better or be similar to my old DVD player?

Yes, the 2313 will upscale all of its video and audio inputs to HDMI/1080p. So will the 2113 (I have both). I believe the 1913 and 1713 do as well.
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Picture is blurry and no sound. Ran through DVD component. Thought I might try through cable input and rename to DVD. Even if it works, I don't think there is up scaling without hdmi cable, or does the 2313 do up scaling regardless.

Did you remember to connect the separate audio cabling? The three component video cables do not include audio.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if many of the newest generation of HDMI receivers and pre/pros do not support anything above 480i on their component video connections. HDMI licensing forbids new disc players from providing HD analog video, so the receiver and pre/pro manufacturers might be deciding that they don't have to support it either, despite all the older HD players still in use. frown.gif

At any rate, most HDMI-capable receivers do transcode other video signals to HDMI. The more expensive models (like the 2313) include upscaling to 1080p. The least expensive models don't have video processors, so they can only pass through whatever signals are connected.
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Got it to work, although there's a buzz or hum when a DVD isn't playing.
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You might check the grounding of your cable TV or satellite TV system. They're the usual culprits when people encounter strange hum or noise in their systems. Everything has to come to a common ground point. Somewhere nearby (like a pipe) just isn't good enough. The other common cause in the U.S. is to have different devices plugged into different power circuits. Most U.S. homes are provided two phases of power by the power company. The easiest fix is to make sure everything is plugged into the same surge-protected power strip.
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