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post #4441 of 4744
Finally setup my pc for 3d blu ray viewing and man is so awesome as the image is clean and motion is smooth which i can watch hour and hour without any eye fatigue but dont know why 2d blu ray 24p the motion is not smooth like 2d also something i do see rainbow but not on 3d, anyway overall this acer h9500bd is the best budget projector u can buy with all the feature it have that can compare with BenQ W7000.
post #4442 of 4744
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Originally Posted by squall12 View Post

Finally setup my pc for 3d blu ray viewing and man is so awesome as the image is clean and motion is smooth which i can watch hour and hour without any eye fatigue but dont know why 2d blu ray 24p the motion is not smooth like 2d also something i do see rainbow but not on 3d, anyway overall this acer h9500bd is the best budget projector u can buy with all the feature it have that can compare with BenQ W7000.
Well give me the info on the material, equipment and settings and I will try to see what is going on. Not tonight or tomorrow but the days after that are good for me. I will try to duplicate the problem and perhaps identify by comparison.
post #4443 of 4744
Hi Mikes,

Try playing any blu ray movie in pc using 23hz setting on pc (I am using ati 7750 card) which u will have duplicate the problem i have mention for 2d blu ray viewing.

Thanks
post #4444 of 4744
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Originally Posted by InCali View Post

I told you I was dense, but I'm one of the world's smartest breeds of dogs. wink.gif
Happy Holidays.

lol. Thanks guys.
post #4445 of 4744
Is there any reason why I should not think about flush mounting the H9500BD? I'd get some some poplar or similar board, cut it slightly wider than the projector, mount the projector onto the board, and then fasten the board to the ceiling. I'd probably trim the ends and paint it the same as the ceiling. I need to double check my math but I'm thinking of doing this because my desired screen size, height, and ceiling height puts the projector base right at the ceiling. The only negative I can think of is heat dissapation may suffer but that shouldn't be an issue with active cooling via the side fan should it?
post #4446 of 4744
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Originally Posted by squall12 View Post

Finally setup my pc for 3d blu ray viewing and man is so awesome as the image is clean and motion is smooth which i can watch hour and hour without any eye fatigue but dont know why 2d blu ray 24p the motion is not smooth like 2d also something i do see rainbow but not on 3d, anyway overall this acer h9500bd is the best budget projector u can buy with all the feature it have that can compare with BenQ W7000.

You may have to use ReClock (freeware) to get smooth playback of Blu-ray discs on a home theater PC. I know I did.
post #4447 of 4744
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Originally Posted by D-Train View Post

Is there any reason why I should not think about flush mounting the H9500BD? I'd get some some poplar or similar board, cut it slightly wider than the projector, mount the projector onto the board, and then fasten the board to the ceiling. I'd probably trim the ends and paint it the same as the ceiling. I need to double check my math but I'm thinking of doing this because my desired screen size, height, and ceiling height puts the projector base right at the ceiling. The only negative I can think of is heat dissapation may suffer but that shouldn't be an issue with active cooling via the side fan should it?

One more negative would be that you lose the ability of any angular adjustments (pitch, yaw) unless you mount it with laser precision..
post #4448 of 4744
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Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

One more negative would be that you lose the ability of any angular adjustments (pitch, yaw) unless you mount it with laser precision..

Thanks, it might be a PITA but I was thinking I could use the adjustable feet to tweak the angle just like you would for a table mount. In any case longer M3 size mounting screws are hard to find. I had to get them special ordered at fastenal and will have to wait until next week.
post #4449 of 4744
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Originally Posted by D-Train View Post

Thanks, it might be a PITA but I was thinking I could use the adjustable feet to tweak the angle just like you would for a table mount. In any case longer M3 size mounting screws are hard to find. I had to get them special ordered at fastenal and will have to wait until next week.

I'd look for a very short bracket and use the vertical shift to compensate. I posted sometime back about my personal technique for mounting this, but can't find it. Essentially, I use the gross movements of "pitch and yaw" (love that by the way) to eliminate any keystone effect, use the vertical/horizontal/zoom/focus adjust to get close, fine tune pitch and yaw of the mount again, readjust focus/zoom etc.

The vertical adjust should work for the up/down movement unless you're substantially below the top of the screen. I have the lens center 3 inches above the top of the viewable area of the screen and have a "lot" of leeway.

Hope that helps.
post #4450 of 4744
overall acer h9500 projector is good budget projector that have all the feature i need eventhough the 2d black is a bit lacking but damn this acer projector did have good 3d viewing pleasure, anyway might save up some cash for sony hw50 projector which i heard have great review for 2d and 3d movie viewing.
post #4451 of 4744
great deal today on acer at newer egg website...
post #4452 of 4744
Hi InCali or Mikes2Cent

Can you guys help me determine if the new firmware update is worth the trouble of sending it for me. I don't have the random shutdown issue. However, I do have the SBS tearing issue but it is not that big of a deal to me as I don't have much content with SBS.

My main motivation would be for the HDMI blurring. My current setup has the H9500 connected HDMI to a media player and a Samsung Bluray player via a Denon receiver. The image looks pretty sharp to me but maybe I missing out on it being sharper.

What is the best way for me to compare what I have today (pre-firwmare (B03) update) and what could be after the upgrade. Are there any screenshot comparisons? Is there a way I can try it out in my setup? Can I see the difference by connecting my laptop via VGA and then HDMIM? Will I see the difference with that test?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

BTW: I have already setup a case number to return the unit to the Acer repair center but wanted to verify for my own sanity if it is worth the hassle.

Thanks,
post #4453 of 4744
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Originally Posted by sega_97 View Post

Hi InCali or Mikes2Cent

Can you guys help me determine if the new firmware update is worth the trouble of sending it for me. I don't have the random shutdown issue. However, I do have the SBS tearing issue but it is not that big of a deal to me as I don't have much content with SBS.

My main motivation would be for the HDMI blurring. My current setup has the H9500 connected HDMI to a media player and a Samsung Bluray player via a Denon receiver. The image looks pretty sharp to me but maybe I missing out on it being sharper.

What is the best way for me to compare what I have today (pre-firwmare (B03) update) and what could be after the upgrade. Are there any screenshot comparisons? Is there a way I can try it out in my setup? Can I see the difference by connecting my laptop via VGA and then HDMIM? Will I see the difference with that test?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

BTW: I have already setup a case number to return the unit to the Acer repair center but wanted to verify for my own sanity if it is worth the hassle.

Thanks,

I was in the same boat as you on this. I returned it and was happy that I did. There is a subtle but real improvement in the sharpness after the firmware update. I would recommend sending it in. You can see the blurring issue by looking at test patterns like those on the hd video essentials disk. It you could download them from the avs site. Probably the easiest way would be to use a pc that has both VGA and hdmi and a/b the outputs.
post #4454 of 4744
joepaiii,

Thanks for the reply. Would you happen to have a screenshot comparison or tell me which test pattern exactly (or doesn't it matter since the difference is so stark) you used to compare? Lastly, did you have to pay for shipping it back to and they paid for shipping to you.

Thanks,
post #4455 of 4744
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Originally Posted by sega_97 View Post

joepaiii,

Thanks for the reply. Would you happen to have a screenshot comparison or tell me which test pattern exactly (or doesn't it matter since the difference is so stark) you used to compare? Lastly, did you have to pay for shipping it back to and they paid for shipping to you.

Thanks,

I would have to search through the thread but there are some screen shot comparisons here. Acer paid for shipping both ways.
post #4456 of 4744
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Originally Posted by hunter306 View Post

It's not silent by any means, but it's not a loud grinding either. It's a very noticeable mechanical/servo noise if you're listening for it but it shouldn't stand out over your content. I highly recommend following Tim's settings for the dynamic iris (which is adjusted in the service menu).
It'll tame the pumping and really make the projector a different beast in the darker scenes. After watching the entire season of firefly (alot of dramtic lighting changes) the difference was night and day.
Can you provide a link to Tim's settings?

Found it. Thanks!
post #4457 of 4744
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Originally Posted by sega_97 View Post

Hi InCali or Mikes2Cent
Can you guys help me determine if the new firmware update is worth the trouble of sending it for me. I don't have the random shutdown issue. However, I do have the SBS tearing issue but it is not that big of a deal to me as I don't have much content with SBS.
My main motivation would be for the HDMI blurring. My current setup has the H9500 connected HDMI to a media player and a Samsung Bluray player via a Denon receiver. The image looks pretty sharp to me but maybe I missing out on it being sharper.
What is the best way for me to compare what I have today (pre-firwmare (B03) update) and what could be after the upgrade. Are there any screenshot comparisons? Is there a way I can try it out in my setup? Can I see the difference by connecting my laptop via VGA and then HDMIM? Will I see the difference with that test?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
BTW: I have already setup a case number to return the unit to the Acer repair center but wanted to verify for my own sanity if it is worth the hassle.
Thanks,

I'd send it in. I could tell just by looking at the picture, that it was clearer. I think (somewhat) subtle, but, (definitely) noticeable describes it.. I think I posted something on this thread in mid-late July that said, essentially "it just looks clearer". The darblet makes it even more so. I had one hooked up and am buying one soon. I'm just hoping the price drops in the near future and am going to wait.
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Hi guys and Happy new Year !
I'm about to send my projector to be fixed for the 4th time and would highly appreciate your help before I do this smile.gif
Please check your units under the service menu /power left left menu/ if the numbers are the same as shown on these photos. That's the only way to find out how screwed/or not/ I am after the last firmware update frown.gif The brightness is very poor , makes watching dark scenes almost miserable for me especially in 3D mode:( My other projector Acer H7531D has more than twice higher contrast/as you can see/. Both are using the same lamp/lumens and they are set to high power mode. If anyone know how to change the numbers under "analog settings" I'll be grateful. Is it possible if I buy let say "Datacolor Spyder4Elite S4EL100 to be able to adjust these color numbers ? They are completely different from the last time before the update. Why would they screw this great projector ?
Thank you in advance and excuse my English !
Edited by kfor - 1/3/13 at 8:42pm
post #4459 of 4744
Common guys frown.gif Mike2cent, inCali ? Anyone ? ;(
post #4460 of 4744
Crazy shot in the dark on this, but is 3d Mode enabled on you H9500 right now??

I noticed a discernable lack of brightness when it is enabled and I'm curious if it was inadvertantly turned on. I don't have another projector to compare my H9500 too, but I ended up turning the brightness down in Eco mode in a dark room for my viewing comfort... It was blowing my eyes out.

EDIT: I see you mention it being worse in 3d mode... Something seems off. I'll check my service menu tonite and cap the screens for you. I think the 511's are what mine shows with the firmware update (as pictured in your second capture).
Edited by hunter306 - 1/4/13 at 1:09pm
post #4461 of 4744
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Originally Posted by hunter306 View Post

Crazy shot in the dark on this, but is 3d Mode enabled on you H9500 right now??
I noticed a discernable lack of brightness when it is enabled and I'm curious if it was inadvertantly turned on. I don't have another projector to compare my H9500 too, but I ended up turning the brightness down in Eco mode in a dark room for my viewing comfort... It was blowing my eyes out.
EDIT: I see you mention it being worse in 3d mode... Something seems off. I'll check my service menu tonite and cap the screens for you. I think the 511's are what mine shows with the firmware update (as pictured in your second capture).


No , the 3D is OFF frown.gif Turning it ON is getting even worst. I just sent the unit to Acer repair depot. I hope the lamp that they replaced is defective.
I'll wait for your settings and thanks
post #4462 of 4744
Hi all.

Anyone know total how many wattage is acer h9500 projector is using when in eco mode? Thanks
post #4463 of 4744
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Originally Posted by kfor View Post

No , the 3D is OFF frown.gif Turning it ON is getting even worst. I just sent the unit to Acer repair depot. I hope the lamp that they replaced is defective.
I'll wait for your settings and thanks

Sorry, but I had a 70 hour work week ln preparation for classes starting back up on Monday, so, as you can imagine, my time has been extremely limited. Fortunately, I have today off, but have to be in at 5am tomorrow.

Did you actually check the service menu and make sure that your Acer was updated? I sent you a PM and gave you a contact. Give him your RMA, explain that you've sent this in multiple times, and I think you'll get some personalized service.
Edited by InCali - 1/5/13 at 5:04pm
post #4464 of 4744
Sorry if this isnt suitable to post here...

BenQ W1070 review is out - www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/index.php
Have anyone of you actually compared with it?

For sure H9500BD black is superior than it.. with CFI too.. other than that, anyone compared A/B?
post #4465 of 4744
Hi all, my post is mostly a cut and paste of one I just added to the Epson 8350 owners thread since I'm comparing it and the H9500BD. Long story short, my wife wants to play Call of Duty with me all the time and I hate split screen, so I want to put two projectors side by side in my home theater so we can both play 'full screen' size games on each half of the home theater screen. The Epson is good from a price, features and replacement bulb cost standpoint, but is 2D only and there may be games that come out in the future that I actually want to play in 3D, so perhaps the two year old Epson is not such a great choice for long term, and that got me looking at the 9500.

The questions I've come up with related to this:
  • My theater screen is 120" horizontal. If we want to play two 'full screen' games side by side, this means at most, I need a projector that can project a 60" horizontal image (69" diagonal). This rules out short throw projectors since even at 5 feet they will typically be 100+ inches projected. Would the 9500 work well at whatever distance it needs to be to get the image that small?
  • Expanding on the above, brightness becomes a concern when the projector is being used for such a small image. My theater is completely black walls and ceiling, dark grey floor, zero ambient light. Could the 9500's brightness be turned down enough to not be overly bright projecting a small image in a dark room? I checked coderguy's projector calculator for the 9500; if I set the screen size to 69" diagonal it shows all the options as being undesirably bright. Oddly, it doesn't allow for repositioning the projector based on height from floor, but I was under the impression this projector has lens shift.
  • Anyone using it for FPS gaming have thoughts on it for that purpose?
  • Any other projectors you recommend I look at? \
  • Based on this thread, it sounds like firmware updates require sending it in?
post #4466 of 4744
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Originally Posted by hungary View Post

Sorry if this isnt suitable to post here...
BenQ W1070 review is out - www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/index.php

Sounds interesting and impressive for the price..
post #4467 of 4744
Has anyone noticed what might be called a “color uniformity” issue with their H9500?

On mine if I display a completely black screen I notice that there is a slight red tint to the lower left corner and a slight green tint to the upper right corner. While it’s fairly easy to see on a black screen, I don’t notice it at all when a movie it playing so it’s not a big deal.

But I am curious if there is a something I can adjust that might clear it up. It may be a hardware defect of some sort and in that case I will just live with it but if I can fix it…that’s even better.
post #4468 of 4744
Acer has brainwashed me!

Some musings regarding Accumotion (CFI) on the Acer: the H9500 comes with Accumotion enabled and set to medium by default. I left it that way for the first movie I watched on the Acer. The movie was animated (Kung Fu Panda) and I had to admit that I really like the effect.

I of course had seen CFI on TVs at the stores but only in little bits. This was the first time to watch a whole movie with it. But animation is one thing, I wasn’t sure if I would really like it for live action films. Well after watching many live action films I have come to a strange place. I actually do like the CFI look. I realize it looks like video and not film but that doesn’t really bother me.

However, what I don’t like is that the effect is inconsistent. As long as there is movement on the screen (especially camera movement) the image has the CFI look. But if things slow down like a pause on a person’s face with a mostly static expression then it looks like film again. I assume this is because without movement there is nothing for the CFI to do. The problem with this inconsistency is that it can take me out of the movie when I notice it.

So after many movies with CFI on I finally decided that it would be best to just turn it off so as not to risk and spoiling the immersion. But here is the rub...

I was only able to stand watching about two minutes of a movie with CFI off before all the stuttering motion drove me crazy. Camera pans were especially unbearable. I never really noticed the jerkiness of film before – or I didn’t care. But now Acer has brainwashed me with their Accumotion! I’ve become a CFI zombie and I can’t go back! eek.gif

Sigh….oh well, perhaps if Peter Jackson and James Cameron get their way, it will all be high-frame rate at some point.
post #4469 of 4744
yep for me acumotion on low setting are best for both movie and animation which i find the motion is very natural.
post #4470 of 4744
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Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

Sounds interesting and impressive for the price..

Interesting. I think I slightly favor the output (simply based on the review shots) better from the 9500 even though it is much less configureable. Sharpness appeared marginally better for the h9500 (granted, I have the firmware updated model). Blacks still seem better on the h9500 too, or is it just me .... Dynamic Iris benefit?

Warranty is a wash, both of them suck with only 1year.

Cost, 9500 is going for 1199 right now, seems like the 1070's going for less than a grand if you find a solid deal.

I probably wouldn't hesitate to buy the 1070 if I were buying right now for two reasons (even though I like the image better on the h9500):
Price. The 'LACK' of reliability from Acer.

EDIT: The Lamp Life on the 1070 (quoted) looks really impressive. Major points for that.
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