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post #1 of 13
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Help. Tuner started flaking on last of my dual tuner units. Edict issued from the family, get a new one or ditch UTV. I know new ones are non-existent, but I'll pay a fair and decent price for one last go around to keep all the equipment unified RCA.

Thanks in advance,
Ed
PM or email to: andrews < at > hughes net
post #2 of 13
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I want to thank Mark M. for selling me two RCA units. I managed to cycle one into the living room with little disruption this weekend.

I also want to thank everyone who has contacted me about possible sales.

Sincerely thanks to all the support this forum provides.

Ed
post #3 of 13
Wouldn't mind hearing about your technique for cycling "one into the living room with little disruption".

I've got a couple UTVs that need Hard Drive Upgrades (One is 80GB needs a 160GB... and a 40GB that needs either the 80GB or whatever I can put on there) and I've been kind of dragging my feet I guess waiting for, I don't know, maybe a Green Light of Death or a Hard Drive failure... for fear of the disruption it'd otherwise cause.

"Where is my Records of X,Y,Z?!"

"Uh. Gone. Gone for good but hey don't you like all the extra recording space?"
post #4 of 13
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Funny you mention that, because even after a "going once, going twice" warning before the UTV swap my wife sat down to the new unit and asked where the last episode of PanAm was?

My son has pretty filled over half the old 80Gb with SpongeBob episodes. He might be getting it hooked up in his room with it over Christmas? We do have a standalone DVD recorder which is (was) hooked up to the UTV via a S-Video splitter. He archived a bunch of the Penguins of Madagascar on DVD-R and claimed no need for the other material.

Apart from that, I'm a pretty physical media guy. DVDs and Laserdiscs with no real back log of movies on the UTV to speak of. While we are on the topic, I also picked up a RCA LDR-600 autoreverse player. A-B flips take a little while but are still faster than manually. Only bummer is that unit's remote doesn't have the shuttle jog control that my LDR-500 does.

I was thinking the WD-Media Hub might also be an archive option? I was going to pick one up, but I can't get a decent internet connect where we live to use any streaming media sources. It would be nice to find a good capture device that could sit side by side to the UTV; not sure if the WD would be it since it has composite and component but no S-Video. Something hanging off a home network (wired or wireless) would seem to be ideal where you could drop and drag back to a local PC for archiving?
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by eea123 View Post

Help. Tuner started flaking on last of my dual tuner units. Edict issued from the family, get a new one or ditch UTV. I know new ones are non-existent, but I'll pay a fair and decent price for one last go around to keep all the equipment unified RCA.

Thanks in advance,
Ed
PM or email to: andrews < at > hughes net

I have a Sony. Hasn't been used in years but should work.

Alan
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by lgodave View Post

Wouldn't mind hearing about your technique for cycling "one into the living room with little disruption".

Are you just asking how he swapped the access cards and had the replacement up and running in no time?

I assume after the card swap he just logged into his DTV account online and refreshed the service to the replacement unit. That used to work like a charm. I have not done it in years though.

I also have a RCA unit with 160GB drive, both tuners and modem worked A-ok when taken out of service that I could let go to a new home for a modest price + shipping. I forget what recordings were even left on it, so it will be a surprise to someone. (mainly a concert or two and family shows I'm sure)
post #7 of 13
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Are you just asking how he swapped the access cards and had the replacement up and running in no time?

I assume after the card swap he just logged into his DTV account online and refreshed the service to the replacement unit. That used to work like a charm. I have not done it in years though.

I also have a RCA unit with 160GB drive, both tuners and modem worked A-ok when taken out of service that I could let go to a new home for a modest price + shipping. I forget what recordings were even left on it, so it will be a surprise to someone. (mainly a concert or two and family shows I'm sure)

Nope. Wanted to see how people are "Achieving" their Recordings to free up space on their UTV(s). Back in the day I did use the VCR/DVDR/PC to do that but over time I've just gotten used to regularly deleting content as needed. On my secondary UTVs/DVRs I've actually gotten in the habit of just letting nature take it's course and let the DVR delete "as needed".

Personally I'd love to maybe figure out a way of getting the UTV to control a DVD-Recorder and let it "achieve" stuff as it goes... But I'm doubtful I could devise a way of doing that. (I'm open to suggestions of course)
post #8 of 13
lgodave, I understand now. Good question to throw out. I'm looking forward to the replies too.

Just had a HR-22 HD-DVR drive go bad. Started with a jerky screen, then bang, nothing but lots of lines and fuzz. Hard re-boots do nothing. About to call DTV about a replacement. I hear that they will ship you a replacement for $20 now that all the receivers are leased. ( since I don't have the protection plan ) That's cheaper then buying and swapping out the drive.
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Originally Posted by guitars911 View Post

I also have a RCA unit with 160GB drive, both tuners and modem worked A-ok when taken out of service that I could let go to a new home for a modest price + shipping. I forget what recordings were even left on it, so it will be a surprise to someone. (mainly a concert or two and family shows I'm sure)

Let me have the holidays settle down (and associated expenses) and I'll probably take you up on it. We just put up a 35' TV tower to hang a Yagi antenna off for cellular modem service. The tower was donated, but I got to spend two weekends on painting and prep (Rustoleum Oil Based Enamel - Machine Gray). Thankfully my wife was able to track down a ham radio guy who puts them on the side. Don't think I want to go up there without a climbing harness.

It also came with a working DB4 antenna which I'm in the process of hooking up to the digital tuner on the RCA DVD-R/VCR Combo I picked up a while back. I tested the feed to the bedroom TV's digital tuner and was pretty impressed by the broadcast quality of about half of the local Peoria channels in 1080. Just added a grounding block and earth rod to the run yesterday. I'm saving threading the cable up the wall until after the presents are opened and there is some room to work behind the TV.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
lgodave,

There wasn't a cable-eye controller for the UTVs was there? I have one for an older JVC S-VHS deck I used with my old RCA D-TV tuner, but I never got the two to play nice. Opting instead to just program both and add a few minutes either side of the program on the VCR side.

Seriously, I'm looking at media recording options since we have switched ISPs that now allow for streaming. Who knows, maybe it is time to look at D-TV's offerings?

Merry Christmas,
Ed
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by eea123 View Post

lgodave,

There wasn't a cable-eye controller for the UTVs was there? I have one for an older JVC S-VHS deck I used with my old RCA D-TV tuner, but I never got the two to play nice.

Merry Christmas,
Ed

If by "cable-eye controller" you mean the IR Blaster? Then yes Factory UTVs did come with those. I'm fairly certain the IR Blaster you may have for the JVC may work with the UTV (or with an IR Remote extender if you are trying to control devices from other rooms/corners.)
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by eea123 View Post

Let me have the holidays settle down (and associated expenses) and I'll probably take you up on it. We just put up a 35' TV tower to hang a Yagi antenna off for cellular modem service.

Please keep me informed on your success with the Yagi antenna / cellular modem service.

I live in the sticks and have HughesNet satellite for internet service which blows chunks. Capped at a 425MB bandwidth limit daily and that's when the service actually works. Oversold service!

I recently bought a (b/g/n wireless router) that uses a 3G/4G usb cellular modem and it pulls a 75% to 80% signal with an additional indoor magnetic antenna. I looked at the outdoor antenna versions for $375+ an opted for the $15 indoor version just to see if it would work at all and to my surprise it increased my signal by 40% +/-. Signal strength and actual download speeds don't seem to match up though. Still pretty slow and inconsistent on down load speeds.

I've wondered if the high priced outdoor set up would actually increase the data transfer rates at my home location. The usb modem throughput is on par with others of its kind when traveling or near larger urban areas with better data service.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by guitars911 View Post

Please keep me informed on your success with the Yagi antenna / cellular modem service.

I live in the sticks and have HughesNet satellite for internet service which blows chunks. Capped at a 425MB bandwidth limit daily and that's when the service actually works. Oversold service!

I recently bought a (b/g/n wireless router) that uses a 3G/4G usb cellular modem and it pulls a 75% to 80% signal with an additional indoor magnetic antenna. I looked at the outdoor antenna versions for $375+ an opted for the $15 indoor version just to see if it would work at all and to my surprise it increased my signal by 40% +/-. Signal strength and actual download speeds don't seem to match up though. Still pretty slow and inconsistent on down load speeds.

I've wondered if the high priced outdoor set up would actually increase the data transfer rates at my home location. The usb modem throughput is on par with others of its kind when traveling or near larger urban areas with better data service.

Will do, same rural setting here as well. My new ISP supplied us with an "axcess-tel CMDA 1xEV-DO" cell modem that is sitting on the corner of my desk. It is 3G (with a 4 port hub/router and WiFi) and we're current peaking downloads at 1.8Mbs, but when the trees leaf out it can drop down to 178kBs. My cellular service believes that with a higher mount, we can see it boost up to near their max of 3Mbs. I haven't monitored the Up versus Down, but I understand it is not 1:1. Still way faster than Hughes' 20:1 ratio and no FAP limits, streaming here we come.

We just put up the TV tower and will have the ISP and tower guy back this spring to hang the Yagi (and a decent FM antenna). I have to move some things around in the basement before then as well. I had my HughesNet modem down there with a long run of RG-6 to a utility closet that I have my printer and hub in. The cellular antenna cabling is heavily sheilded and runs around $2 a foot; I need to run some more Cat5e (or 6) to reduce the antenna cable run.

On a sidenote, we used to subscribe to the HughesNet home plan beginning back in 2003. I ran a WinXP tweak that turned the "Windows background update bandwidth stream" down to zero and saw the 784kBs jump to 1.1Mbs on a DW6000 1-Watt modem. It pretty much stayed there for the 8 years we had their service except during peak evening hours. I'm a morning person and often surfed during their FAP free hours so it was my wife that complained most about it.
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