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Firmware updates for the VPL-series seem very rare or is it that we have an already excellent piece of software for this machine?
post #3212 of 3559
Looking for a quick answer please!

I am looking at using this projector at almost max throw, on a 133" 2.4 da lite 16x9 High Power screen.

I currently have the HW30 at the same spot, and it seems plenty bright for me. But i've read in 2 reviews that there is a much larger light output drop using max throw with the VW95 (apparently the 30 only drops just over 10% brightness and the 95 drops 26%!).

If i am using my screen (my gain is roughly 1.8 with the projector in its current location, 4 feet above my head), will this be a lot dimmer than the HW30? will 3d be useless? I could see losing a little light wouldn't hurt me right now...
post #3213 of 3559
Hey, can anyone help me out? I have a 133" 16x9 dalite high power screen. I have my current projector ceiling mounted about 4 feet above my head. This gives me an approximate gain of 1.8. So...

With a gain of 1.8, and a 133" screen, what would be optimal for great contrast and acceptable 3d brightness?
post #3214 of 3559
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Originally Posted by whitetrash66 View Post

Hey, can anyone help me out? I have a 133" 16x9 dalite high power screen. I have my current projector ceiling mounted about 4 feet above my head. This gives me an approximate gain of 1.8. So...
With a gain of 1.8, and a 133" screen, what would be optimal for great contrast and acceptable 3d brightness?

You might try using a pj calc to determine some brightness values? http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/
post #3215 of 3559
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Originally Posted by whitetrash66 View Post

Looking for a quick answer please!
I am looking at using this projector at almost max throw, on a 133" 2.4 da lite 16x9 High Power screen.
I currently have the HW30 at the same spot, and it seems plenty bright for me. But i've read in 2 reviews that there is a much larger light output drop using max throw with the VW95 (apparently the 30 only drops just over 10% brightness and the 95 drops 26%!).
If i am using my screen (my gain is roughly 1.8 with the projector in its current location, 4 feet above my head), will this be a lot dimmer than the HW30? will 3d be useless? I could see losing a little light wouldn't hurt me right now...



When I compared the 30ES with the 95ES regarding light output, the 30 in low lamp mode was about the same or maybe a very little brighter then the 95Es in high lamp mode ( but the contrast / black level where better on the 95ES ) - both was about 3,8 m from a 92" 16/9 screen ( think its about mid throw !? ).

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post #3216 of 3559
ok, thanks. That is good to know. With my current HW30 throwing a 133" diagonal image from max throw (roughly 20 feet), it seems plenty bright in low mode, and 3d is acceptably bright. I talked to Mike (av science sales 5) and he recommended a throw of around 15' (2 feet back from the closest throw possible). So i think i'll do that.

In regards to image, how much better WAS the contrast/image on the 95? My main concern is i won't notice the difference between the two, and the only reason i'm doing the upgrade is to improve the blacks
post #3217 of 3559
I changed from a HW30 to the 95.
Both PJ present (to my eye) very similar image characteristics but... demoing both PJ side by side, the 95 is way sharper, and you'll notice more details in the whole picture.
Black level is a notch or two better on the 95, and and the contrast is noticeable better.
I got more detail in darker areas with the 95, where the 30 wasn't able to.
post #3218 of 3559
thanks! The contrast/black level is what concerns me. Any dark scene doesn't appear black, but a dark grey. I know that the 95 won't make it BLACK, but better will definately be noticeable to my eye. How does the brightness compare? What throw are you using (max, mid, min)?
post #3219 of 3559
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Originally Posted by whitetrash66 View Post

thanks! The contrast/black level is what concerns me. Any dark scene doesn't appear black, but a dark grey. I know that the 95 won't make it BLACK, but better will definately be noticeable to my eye. How does the brightness compare? What throw are you using (max, mid, min)?

Before you get a vw95, projectorreviews.com has their review up for the HW50ES and have already unofficially labeled it as their Hot Product Award before some of the new projectors even come out.
Edited by xb1032 - 9/27/12 at 8:09pm
post #3220 of 3559
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Originally Posted by xb1032 View Post

Before you get a vw95, projectorreviews.com has their review up for the HW30ES and have already unofficially labeled it as their Hot Product Award before some of the new projectors even come out.

Do you mean the Sony HW50ES?
post #3221 of 3559
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Do you mean the Sony HW50ES?

Yes. I updated the typo, thanks!

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony/hw50es/index.php
post #3222 of 3559
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Originally Posted by Johnrecon View Post

I changed from a HW30 to the 95.
Both PJ present (to my eye) very similar image characteristics but... demoing both PJ side by side, the 95 is way sharper, and you'll notice more details in the whole picture.
Black level is a notch or two better on the 95, and and the contrast is noticeable better.
I got more detail in darker areas with the 95, where the 30 wasn't able to.

With the HW50 having better black levels, it should be a little closer in this area, but the VW95 still has the advantage in sharpness due to the higher grade optics.
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post #3223 of 3559
ok guys, so after looking at the pics of the HW50 with reality creation, how would the vw95 with the Darbee compare?
post #3224 of 3559
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Originally Posted by whitetrash66 View Post

ok guys, so after looking at the pics of the HW50 with reality creation, how would the vw95 with the Darbee compare?

VW95 throws a better image, but HW50 will be brighter, so it can light up a larger screen.
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post #3225 of 3559
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

VW95 throws a better image, but HW50 will be brighter, so it can light up a larger screen.

I think the word should throw a better image is appropriate unless you've seen the HW50 in person. smile.gif
post #3226 of 3559
but the native contrast is way higher on the 95... 6800:1 vs 20,000:1. I'd expect that to be noticeable...
post #3227 of 3559
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Originally Posted by xb1032 View Post

I think the word should throw a better image is appropriate unless you've seen the HW50 in person. smile.gif

I have seen the HW50 in person. smile.gif
The HW50 is a good projector, no doubt, but the VW95 has the higher grade optics and higher native contrast. What the VW95 can't do that the HW50 can is light up a larger screen.
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post #3228 of 3559
I would love to pick up a B stock Sony VW95, but given that I have a 10' wide Screen Research screen, under my circumstances the HW50ES is probably the better choice. Assuming similar pricing of B stock VW95s and new HW50ES it is hard to give up the better lens and higher native contrast of the VW95. I couldn't care less about 3D. So long as the VW95 had at least equivalent brightness to my RS1 I think I would be OK with its light output. The HW50ES has significantly higher light output than either the VW95 or RS1.
post #3229 of 3559
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Originally Posted by Scott B View Post

I would love to pick up a B stock Sony VW95, but given that I have a 10' wide Screen Research screen, under my circumstances the HW50ES is probably the better choice. Assuming similar pricing of B stock VW95s and new HW50ES it is hard to give up the better lens and higher native contrast of the VW95. I couldn't care less about 3D. So long as the VW95 had at least equivalent brightness to my RS1 I think I would be OK with its light output. The HW50ES has significantly higher light output than either the VW95 or RS1.

The VW95 has about the same light output of a JVC RS1 in best image mode.
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post #3230 of 3559
The RS1 is setup with max zoom and I use it in high lamp mode. Do you think the VW95 offers similar light output if setup the same way (max zoom, high lamp, iris open or in auto)?
post #3231 of 3559
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

I have seen the HW50 in person. smile.gif
The HW50 is a good projector, no doubt, but the VW95 has the higher grade optics and higher native contrast. What the VW95 can't do that the HW50 can is light up a larger screen.

Mike, how does the HW50 compared to your 45 ? Would you rather get the HW50 or 46 for yourself ?
post #3232 of 3559
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

I have seen the HW50 in person. smile.gif
The HW50 is a good projector, no doubt, but the VW95 has the higher grade optics and higher native contrast. What the VW95 can't do that the HW50 can is light up a larger screen.
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Mike, how does the HW50 compared to your 45 ? Would you rather get the HW50 or 46 for yourself ?

Well the question is if you've seen it then please share some insight Mike! biggrin.gif
post #3233 of 3559
I have seen it too. Lighting up a SI black diamond screen in a brightly lit room where one had to stand with people walking all around. Simply not possible to form comparative PQ observations. One must use ones detailed viewing of an HW30 coupled with the specs abd stated new features of the 50 to formulate conclusions at this point. The lens of the 95 is much better. Contrast? Impossible to judge under the show viewing conditions. Clearly though a better machine than the 30. Based on the lens in the 95 and the specs of both machines I would opt for a b stock 95 over a 50 unless I needed the extra lumens of the 50.

The 50 vs the 46? Once again there are many factors and both machines have strengths and weaknesses. pricing with glasses and emitter not included in the JVC but included with the Sony are about the same, MSRP or street. If one doesn't care about 3D and would have enough brightness with either, the JVC wins on price, either at MSRP or street.
post #3234 of 3559
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Well the question is if you've seen it then please share some insight Mike! biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

I have seen it too. Lighting up a SI black diamond screen in a brightly lit room where one had to stand with people walking all around. Simply not possible to form comparative PQ observations. One must use ones detailed viewing of an HW30 coupled with the specs abd stated new features of the 50 to formulate conclusions at this point. The lens of the 95 is much better. Contrast? Impossible to judge under the show viewing conditions. Clearly though a better machine than the 30. Based on the lens in the 95 and the specs of both machines I would opt for a b stock 95 over a 50 unless I needed the extra lumens of the 50.
The 50 vs the 46? Once again there are many factors and both machines have strengths and weaknesses. pricing with glasses and emitter not included in the JVC but included with the Sony are about the same, MSRP or street. If one doesn't care about 3D and would have enough brightness with either, the JVC wins on price, either at MSRP or street.

Thanks Mark. smile.gif

Hard to answer the question regarding which I would rather have, would need to see both in my own room. The 3D performance of the Sony means next to nothing to me since I am not a 3D guy.
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post #3235 of 3559
I use my VW 95 on a 3m wide screen gain 1.2
The brightness would also be enough if you run it in low lamp mode. I use the high lamp mode because of the extra punch and i never have the impression it is too dark...
post #3236 of 3559
Hi
I have a Sony vpl-vw90es projector and anthem statement d2v 3d video processor and oppo bdp 95 in my setup.
I have problem to get the sony proj working then i set my anthem d2v in passthru to allow 3d play. I tried the setup against my samsung 60" led passthru works fine for both 2d and 3d.
If i connect the oppo direct to my sony both 2d 3d work ok but not with the anthem in the chain.
What can i change in the sony proj to grt this working? May there be firmware so i can upgrade? Cant find any on sonys support page.?
Please ny advise?
Br
Micael
post #3237 of 3559
Does anyone know why Sony only released HW50 this year and no successor to the VW95?
post #3238 of 3559
Just a quick line to say that I watched Madagascar 3 in 3D on Blu-ray on my VW95 last night, with the Darbee set at 67% HD mode and it was spectacular. Hope you guys are still enjoying the pj as much as I am. That said, I'm bummed that Sony didn't announce a replacement for it at CEDIA. Especially considering the 2D on the 95 is supposed to be very similar to that of the VW95, essentially meaning we've gone a few generations now with little or no appreciable difference in the 2D PQ. Wouldn't mind some incremental improvements each year, because eventually they add up. Well, maybe they will announce something at CES?
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Just a quick line to say that I watched Madagascar 3 in 3D on Blu-ray on my VW95 last night, with the Darbee set at 67% HD mode and it was spectacular. Hope you guys are still enjoying the pj as much as I am. That said, I'm bummed that Sony didn't announce a replacement for it at CEDIA. Especially considering the 2D on the 95 is supposed to be very similar to that of the VW95, essentially meaning we've gone a few generations now with little or no appreciable difference in the 2D PQ. Wouldn't mind some incremental improvements each year, because eventually they add up. Well, maybe they will announce something at CES?

I hope too that Sony will annouce the 95 replacement at CES.

My HW50 is great but imagine what they could do with a mix of the two... smile.gif

Or better, they could come with a cheaper version of the 4k VW1000 eek.gif
post #3240 of 3559
... I Love every minute with my VW95!!! Next update will be also a 4k pj...
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