The "Official" Onkyo TX-NR3009 Owners Thread - Page 16

Originally Posted by joeboy 

Does anyone hear a pop out of their speakers when switching listening modes. Also I hear white noise coming out of all my speakers only when an input signal is received. The white noise gets louder on different listening modes. Is this normal? I previoulsy had an 876 and no white noise issues or popping between listening modes. Is this just par for this model or could there be something wrong with my unit. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by joerod 

Hit Set Up on te remote then te first option Monitor Out. You have resolution options right there. Also, under Set Up you can fine tune it under Source. There you can set picture adjustments as well as resolution.

Originally Posted by ocezam 

Thanks man! I did eventually figure it out. It took me about 7 hours to tear my whole system apart, run wiring for the new heights and wides and put it all back together with this new receiver. I got pretty tired and wasn't thinking straight.
The good news is I have the rest of the 3 day holiday to explore all the bells and whistles of this fine box!
Thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by coolcat4843 

Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.
But I can understand your furstrations with being stuck with a 818.
Especially, when in the back of your mind, you know that you could of had the superior 3009.
But hey, life is full of compromises.
I hope you have fun with your 818, as best you can.
Don't forget to come back and visit us, here in the 3009 owners thread.
We like to keep track of our "little brothers."

Originally Posted by freeyayo50 

Does anyone really hear a difference between Pure Audio and Direct modes? Just asking for a general consensus. I personally don't hear a difference.

Originally Posted by Mikes2cents 

I swore I would not respond to this post because it seems so pointless, but after a few beverages today I have something to get off of my chest. First of all I am not stuck with a lowly anything and that comment alone may explain why you are single and live in an apartment. I chose the 818 because my experience with the 809 in my 22x24 foot man cave was that I could listen to it at reference and even beyond that without any issues, including neighbor complaints. I bet you cannot do that in your apartment with your lofty 3009 and 4 subs. Don't bother trying to BS here as a 313 would probably suit your apartment purposes. I can crank my 818 to reference and beyond anytime I want and never hear from anyone in my hood because the man cave is in the basement. Don't even try to tell me you can do this in an apartment with neighbors.
Let me see if I can explain where I have come from. Had (still have) a Pio Elite VSX-23TXH that was a very good unit and very clean power. Could not do 3D. Tried a Yammie 867 but it clipped and shut down at reference levels and beyond. Got an 809 and it did what I needed but HDMI sub out failed and I need that for my PJ. So now I have the 818 and ditto for the power levels. I have a similar Polk setup as you and 3 Polk subs. Don't know what apartment you live in but everyone here in this house can hear/feel when I listen to my 818 so I doubt it is different in your apartment except neighbors will complain.
To summarize, yet again, I am sure the 3009 is a fine unit and you got a good deal, unfortunately you are in no position to stretch the legs of the unit being in an apartment and even an 818 would be overkill in an apartment because I gaurantee the cops would be at my door every day with my 818 and the levels I listen to it. If you want to be my big brother get a bigger house than I have. Then you can be that. That would be bigger than 2,700 square feet my "big" brother.
Now can you please stop this crap and enjoy your unit? Seems you are more disappointed than I am that I cancelled my 3009 order. Trust me if the 818 does not cut it I can move on. So far it is doing fine. BTW, you have an old unit, last year's model. How's that feel? Childish eh? Yeah well seems I am in the sandbox in the playground with you right now and that is not where either of us should be. We should be extolling the value that Onkyo provides to the consumer instead of bickering. Need I remind you I could buy a 5010 if I felt like it? I just do not need that and you ought to make note of that.
Sorry to the rest of the 3009 owners but I felt this needed to be addressed as Onkyo makes a great line of AVRs and there is a reason for that. Not everyone needs the flagship and the 3009 was not the flagship, albeit close.
BTW, the HDMI splitter I got off of Amazon did display the OSD to my projector (got one of those coolcat4843? Thought not) but it failed to pass 3D so I will readvise when I get this sorted out. I am also struggling with getting the Android app to work my 818 but I am sure it is no different for the 3009 since the ICS system seems to be problematic. Wow, that was a lot of wind but I had to get it off my chest.

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

I don't know what splitter you got off amazon (did it say it would pass 3D?), but is there any reason you didn't go with monoprice and the splitters that I linked that specifically said they would pass 3D? Plus monoprice has an excellent customer service department if you run into any troubles.

Originally Posted by Mikes2cents 

I swore I would not respond to this post because it seems so pointless, but after a few beverages today I have something to get off of my chest. First of all I am not stuck with a lowly anything and that comment alone may explain why you are single and live in an apartment. I chose the 818 because my experience with the 809 in my 22x24 foot man cave was that I could listen to it at reference and even beyond that without any issues, including neighbor complaints. I bet you cannot do that in your apartment with your lofty 3009 and 4 subs. Don't bother trying to BS here as a 313 would probably suit your apartment purposes. I can crank my 818 to reference and beyond anytime I want and never hear from anyone in my hood because the man cave is in the basement. Don't even try to tell me you can do this in an apartment with neighbors.

Let me see if I can explain where I have come from. Had (still have) a Pio Elite VSX-23TXH that was a very good unit and very clean power. Could not do 3D. Tried a Yammie 867 but it clipped and shut down at reference levels and beyond. Got an 809 and it did what I needed but HDMI sub out failed and I need that for my PJ. So now I have the 818 and ditto for the power levels. I have a similar Polk setup as you and 3 Polk subs. Don't know what apartment you live in but everyone here in this house can hear/feel when I listen to my 818 so I doubt it is different in your apartment except neighbors will complain.

To summarize, yet again, I am sure the 3009 is a fine unit and you got a good deal, unfortunately you are in no position to stretch the legs of the unit being in an apartment and even an 818 would be overkill in an apartment because I gaurantee the cops would be at my door every day with my 818 and the levels I listen to it. If you want to be my big brother get a bigger house than I have. Then you can be that. That would be bigger than 2,700 square feet my "big" brother.

Now can you please stop this crap and enjoy your unit? Seems you are more disappointed than I am that I cancelled my 3009 order. Trust me if the 818 does not cut it I can move on. So far it is doing fine. BTW, you have an old unit, last year's model. How's that feel? Childish eh? Yeah well seems I am in the sandbox in the playground with you right now and that is not where either of us should be. We should be extolling the value that Onkyo provides to the consumer instead of bickering. Need I remind you I could buy a 5010 if I felt like it? I just do not need that and you ought to make note of that.

Sorry to the rest of the 3009 owners but I felt this needed to be addressed as Onkyo makes a great line of AVRs and there is a reason for that. Not everyone needs the flagship and the 3009 was not the flagship, albeit close.

BTW, the HDMI splitter I got off of Amazon did display the OSD to my projector (got one of those coolcat4843? Thought not) but it failed to pass 3D so I will readvise when I get this sorted out. I am also struggling with getting the Android app to work my 818 but I am sure it is no different for the 3009 since the ICS system seems to be problematic. Wow, that was a lot of wind but I had to get it off my chest.

Originally Posted by Mikes2cents 

You are right. I did not go with that but I did say it failed. I also noted in a different post how it downsamples the signal to the lowest commom denominator which ended up being PCM and that is the same thing the monoprice does. I have no problem ordering from monoprice but it seems to do the same thing. Are you viewing 3D on your display because the unit I got performed perfectly until I tried to go 3D. Then it failed with error messages.

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

Anywho, I'm much more interested in speakers than these fancy electronics

Originally Posted by hifi59 

Can someone explain what happens when you put your bluray player in auto mode and at the same time you put your 3009 source select to "through" which engages the vida processor as witnessed on the S&M disc.? I ask this because I have been experimenting with different settings on my BR player and receiver. I have an Oppo 93. If I select "source direct" on the Oppo and set the Onkyo source select to "through" the Vida is doing the processing of course. I think it looks slightly better than engaging the Marvell Kyoto in the Oppo and setting the Onkyo to"direct" which bypasses the Vida processor. When I engage both, I think the picture looks best on my Umr calibrated Kuro. I'm just not sure what's happening when I do this. Anyone want to take a stab at this?

Originally Posted by hifi59 

Source direct does indeed bypass the Marvell in the Oppo. When I put in the S&M test disc with the clip of the car and the fans in the stadium,engaging "through" eliminates the moire as the car zips past the stands. With the receiver in direct, the moire appears. Same with the Oppo. If the receiver is set to "direct" and the Oppo in source direct, moire appears. Put the Oppo in auto and the moire is gone. So my assumption was that engaging "through" on the Onkyo is the equal of engaging auto on the Oppo . Both seem to engage their respective processors.So what happens if both are engaged.?

Originally Posted by coolcat4843 

So nobody knows what the THX Ultra2/Select2 Subwoofer setting does?

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

It says right in the Onkyo manual that "through" doesn't do anything to the PQ except adjust resolution. Ergo, the vida is not doing anything except adjusting the resolution to match whatever resolution settings you have activated.
Why not just try it?

Originally Posted by hifi59 

The manual does say that,but if that were true,then why would the S& M test disk clearly show that something is taking place other than resolution when through is engaged . I am sending the receiver a 1080p bluray signal from the Oppo, thus no resolution change is taking place but yet the moire pattern disappears from the test disc when through is engaged.

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

I'm not entirely sure, but it probably adjusts the low frequency and LFE signals being sent to the sub. Just some extra processing that you really don't need. My guess would be that it adjusts the low frequency/LFE so that it (supposedly) meets THX standards for Ultra or Select (whichever your receiver is certified for).

Originally Posted by coolcat4843 

Thanks fuzz for the reply.
All I know is my subs perform much better when I select the "no" option.
Played the opening of Flight of the Phoenix on blu-ray and was floored by all the extremely
deep and very powerful bass content in the plane crash landing sequence.
It's like I'am discovering all the great bass content in my blu-rays for the very first time.
They never sounded or felt this great with my Yamaha receivers.

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

Hopefully I'll be able to get rid of audyssey this Christmas with a new toy I have my eye on

Originally Posted by naamanf 

Agreed. This is the way IMHO http://www.datasatdigital.com/cinema/products/ap20.php

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

Interesting, looks pretty like a pretty awesome device. Also looks expensive, which is why I'm probably going to go with mini-dsp

Originally Posted by naamanf 

It is and it is. I have a miniDSP in a box that I've been playing with for a while and it is cool for what it is.

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

That's not surprising many people have said the THX setting (or audyssey for that matter depending on who you're talking to) say that they stifle the subs. I leave the THX off as well and then just raise the sub level after running audyssey. Hopefully I'll be able to get rid of audyssey this Christmas with a new toy I have my eye on

Originally Posted by fuzz092888 

I'm not entirely sure, but it probably adjusts the low frequency and LFE signals being sent to the sub. Just some extra processing that you really don't need. My guess would be that it adjusts the low frequency/LFE so that it (supposedly) meets THX standards for Ultra or Select (whichever your receiver is certified for).