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post #691 of 902
Chad and Mike do bring up serious points that do need answers. The 818 seems to be the only model doing this. Of course the easiest solution would be to get a Blu ray player with dual HDMI outs but that lets Onkyo off the hook. I think this question Chad should be more important to the 3010/5010 thread. Since the 3009 was before the 818's time.
post #692 of 902
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Originally Posted by fuzz092888 View Post

Are you using play, pause, etc with a DVR or with a DVD blu-ray player? Changing inputs the clicking is normal, it's also normal if the receiver starts getting too hot. Generally speaker, if I hit play or pause when using a DVR is clicks because it is switching sound modes. So, yes clicking is normal in the majority of cases.

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Originally Posted by Kamikaze13 View Post

Hey guys I just picked up a 3009 and everytime I pause or play or ff/rw a movie or change input modes the amp clicks (fairly loudly). Is this normal?

Yes the clicking is normal. What you are hearing are relays in the input/output sections. I've also noticed the clicking when playing extremely loud, deep bass tones. They are part of the amplifier switching circuitry.
post #693 of 902
whoever designed that needs a new job. It's brutally distracting.
post #694 of 902
Does anyone have a turntable hooked up to their 3009, and if so....how does it sound? I have not hooked up my 3009 yet but I'm curious about the phono stage. I have a graham slee, graham amp 2 phono stage, and it sounded pretty good on my pio elite. Kinda hoping I can sell it and just use the built in one on the 09.
post #695 of 902
RE: Phono Out

Yes, I have a B&O turntable hooked up to the phono out and it works/sounds great. But, I in my case, I needed to attach the ground wires from the turntable to the ground connectors on the back of the Onkyo...(it solved the buzz/hum coming from the speakers).
post #696 of 902
Hooking everything up right now......I'll post my thoughts when I have it all dialed in.
post #697 of 902
So far......I am FLOORED! Sounds sooooo much better then my old avr. Bass is more controlled and accurate. Still tweaking with it a little, but for now I am one happy camper!
post #698 of 902

Here is a quick shot of my system before I installed the 09. Pic takin with iPhone so sorry for the crappy quality.
post #699 of 902
Kamikaze, have you updated firmware? I don't hear a lot of relay clicks in my 3009. I heard a lot in my older Onkyo 807, but that was reduced after a firmware update. On my 3009 I have good ventilation and am only powering the center and two surrounds with it.
post #700 of 902
I also hear the clicking, even when I mute the volume. I have the latest firmware and do not use the internal amps at all, using it as a pre/pro. I hear it coming from the speakers too. When ever I change the channel, pick a new song, or switch inputs I hear a audible click/thump through my speakers. Anyone else have this problem?
post #701 of 902
Yes I did the firmware update when I picked it up this black friday. When I use my PS3 with PCM audio out it clicks almost every time I press play, pause, search, or anything, sometimes it doesn't!? I have also heard it click in the middle of a chick flick (so not driving hard) for no apparent reason (internal fans coming on?). I am using an external fan which keeps it a lot cooler.

I understand it would click when I change input modes but this just doesn't seem right.

I tried to contact Onkyo support but their site was down or something.
post #702 of 902
I guess the new has worn off for everyone's 09, either that or everyone has figured it out.
post #703 of 902
Can anyone confirm that their receiver does or does not click every time a new audio format is detected in the same source?

On any blu-ray I get a click at the start of previews then when it goes to the main menu and also when as it starts playing the main feature.
post #704 of 902
I remember hearing it click all the time, muting volume, changing tracks etc. Maybe it has broke in or maybe I've got used to it. I will watch a movie tonight and pay attention.
post #705 of 902
Mine also seemed to be worse when I first got it but it was a display model so it should have been well broke in already.
post #706 of 902
What's with all these clicking issues?
My 3009 rarely if ever clicks.

You guys must have defective units.
post #707 of 902
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Originally Posted by Kamikaze13 View Post

Mine also seemed to be worse when I first got it but it was a display model so it should have been well broke in already.

Yes the unit does click every time the format changes. It also clicks due to heat. How loud it is will depend on the noise floor of your room. The quieter the room the louder the clicks will appear to be. I know when I had the receiver in a quieter room the clicking was much more apparent, but now I have it in the living room where there is usually a fair amount of ambient noise. The higher noise floor, combined with it being inside an entertainment center makes the clicks barely noticeable in most cases. I think the only time you need to worry about the clicking is if it starts clicking when it shouldn't be.
post #708 of 902
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Originally Posted by Kamikaze13 View Post

Can anyone confirm that their receiver does or does not click every time a new audio format is detected in the same source?

I've owned two 3009s: both brand new. Both clicked at about the same level of 'loudness' during power on/off and with changing format of input audio signal.

I think that the clicking made by the switches is louder than it needs to be, but it never bothered me--mostly because I understood that it was switch noise and I figured that an Onkyo engineer spec'ed those switches 'cuz he dug the pronounced clicking sound. wink.gif
post #709 of 902
They are relays. They make noise when they switch. Get over it.
post #710 of 902
For those interested, I have made a fairly extensive addition to my post on listening notes for the 3009.

Topics covered include my current thoughts on

. Neo:X versus DSX versus PLII (versus Fosgate Model 4, even) for up-mixing 2-channel music audio sources

. MultEQ versus 'manual' speaker distance and level settings.

. Straight decode of 5.1 Dolby versus Neo:X

It's post #556 on page 19 of this thread.
post #711 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamikaze13 View Post

Can anyone confirm that their receiver does or does not click every time a new audio format is detected in the same source?

On any blu-ray I get a click at the start of previews then when it goes to the main menu and also when as it starts playing the main feature.

That's true. It's happening on my 3009 like you said.
post #712 of 902
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Originally Posted by naamanf View Post

They are relays. They make noise when they switch. Get over it.

I understand they are relays just like in the 7 other receivers I've owned and none of them clicked half as loud as this one. I guess it just doesn't bother most people like it does me.

Thanks all for your input. This is my first Onkyo so now I know it's normal-ish.

I could try to put a glass door on the front of my a/v rack I guess. frown.gif
post #713 of 902
I know this thread is pretty much dead........but was wondering if someone might have some insight. When trying to use SPOTIFY to stream music, 75% of the time it makes my 3009 crash! I have a 20 Mbps service directly plugged into the back of my unit via Ethernet. When I try to play a artist....everything freezes. The back button doesn't work and I can't back out if it. It toatally locks up the NET function, can't even go to pandora. I tried turning off the unit, tried changing inputs, and all I get is a blue screen. Any help?
post #714 of 902
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

I know this thread is pretty much dead........but was wondering if someone might have some insight. When trying to use SPOTIFY to stream music, 75% of the time it makes my 3009 crash! I have a 20 Mbps service directly plugged into the back of my unit via Ethernet. When I try to play a artist....everything freezes. The back button doesn't work and I can't back out if it. It toatally locks up the NET function, can't even go to pandora. I tried turning off the unit, tried changing inputs, and all I get is a blue screen. Any help?
Are you using the latest firmware?
post #715 of 902
Yes....I just got the 3009 a month ago. First thing I did when I hooked it up to the net, is a firmware update. Also I just downloaded spotify, so it's up to date as well. Just wondering if this is a spotify problem, or a server problem. It really pisses me off when some thing doesn't work the way I expect it to. With a high end avr, a high end streaming service, and a 20 Mbps connection.....there should be no issues. I'm going to write spotify customer service as well. I really really love my 3009. Best avr I've owned and I don't think it's at fault.
post #716 of 902
Not sure if this helps but when I use the Onkyo app on my android phone, streaming wirelessly via Net and Spotify works just fine. I do have my 3009 hard wired and haven't tried streaming directly from the NET, Spotify menu.
post #717 of 902
I do the same thing and it works awesome! Use the Onkyo app,spotify works beautifully..You can also get your music right from your itunes ect.. You can control it from your phone,you don't need the remote for much anymore. You also can use the volume buttons on your phone to control the volume on your onkyo,its really neat..
post #718 of 902
I have the same app on my iPhone 4S. That's where I think the problem started. I like the fact that you can search an artist much faster with the phones keyboard, but that is where I first noticed it freezing up. Most of the time when I search an artist, and hit play....it says "cannot play track" then it will go through the whole album trying to play all the tracks. After it does that I try to back out, and that's where it locks up! Screen goes blue and nothing works. I don't know what fixes it, I just turn it on the next day and try again.
post #719 of 902
I have had Yamaha receivers for the past 15 years and purchased my most recent about a year ago and was incredibly disappointed by their surround setup software. It looks good on paper but is nearly worthless in practice. I am used to buying reasonably good components and keeping them for a long time but after a few months my buyers remorse led me to start researching receivers again. I have researched my purchases on AVS for years and this time was no different. I have had such good luck with Yamaha in the past I assumed that purchase would be a good one and probably downplayed some of the goods things said about Audyssey because of that when I made my last decision.

Once I found myself back at the drawing board Audyssey became a must have and the list is fairly narrow once you make that distinction as well as a few others so I narrowed my list to Onkyo. I was worried about the heat issues I read about with Onkyo as well as the reliability and video issues but decided that Onkyo was the best option in my price range.

Soooooo... I was looking to purchase a 818 and bumped into a slightly used 3009 for a similar price. Done. It arrived Friday and I have now beat it up for most of the weekend. No video issues. It does get warm but nothing I cant live with and that a fan wont alleviate next week. The setup is very flexible but not so complex it cant be managed by most. Audyssey - fantastic from even a 3 sample setup.

I have paired the reciever with the following:
Klipsch
RF62(2)
RC62
RS35(2)
POLK (not sure what model but small and appear to work acceptably for front high speakers)(2)
And the icing on the cake two HSU VTF15

I use a EPSON 8350 projector and a VIZIO 23" TV for viewing.

I use a Sony BD Player and a media PC for content.

Everything was about as plug and play as could be hoped for. After running Audyssey it was probably an A- setup from the moment it calculated. The amount of headroom available on this system is silly. The receiver says 82 is THX reference but I cant comfortably listen to it above 73-75 for an actual movie. I have used the game settings as well with Battlefield on the PC and it is excellent. The NEO music setting is very enjoyable. I am very pleased with how good everything sounds changing from one source to another. My HSU subs which can be overwhelming in my current living room are perfect. Brutal when asked and well blended the rest of the time. They are now living up to their reputation.

I really dont have a complaint yet and as I live with this one a while I am guessing it will only get better as it is tweaked.

Thanks to everyone on this thread for your posts. I would have never made this purchase without your valuable input.
post #720 of 902
Hi

looking for some help, I just hooked up my brand new 3009 and I am having an issue with the analog audio. I have connected a gamecube system to the component video 3 in. The gamecube does not have digital audio so I connected the red/white analog audio cable to the analog audio game input.

I assigned the component video3 in and renamed the aux button to gamecube. When I select aux on the remote, I get the video but no audio. I am pretty sure I am missing something simple.

All the other connections that I have made work perfectly(HDMI, component video, optical audio etc)
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