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post #781 of 902
I think the fans are multi-speed. So when the unit is not cooling fast enough or a limit is reached it kicks the fan to high speed.
post #782 of 902
Thanks for that.

I hope this is the case. It has been really hot recently so I guess the temperature of the room caused the fans to go faster.
post #783 of 902
HDMI Handshake problems??

So every time I switch from BD/DVD to cable/sat I get a "mode not supported". I never get this going from cab/sat to BD/DVD. I have my ps3 hooked up via hdmi into BD/DVD input. I have to turn off my reciever and turn it back on to make it work. Is this hdmi handshake? If so I do I fix the problem?
post #784 of 902
Thread Starter 
Fellow owners,

My 3009 has developed a few problems, but it feels like software. Seeing if anyone has at home remedy before I take it in for repair.

Problems: Net Radio function and IP remote control are no longer working. Also I cannot update the firmware via NET or USB. USB sticks do not completely initialize. NET input just results in blue screen and blank front panel display.

All IP connectivity is not broken. I can get to the web page via IP address port 80. I was using Roomie for remote control and it just stopped responding to commands. Other inputs (i.e. BD, CBL/SAT, PC) all work correctly. HDMI inputs/outputs all work correctly.

Troubleshooting steps already taken:
1. Off/on
2. Unplugged
3. Called Onkyo support and they had me do a "master reset" with VCR button plus Power Button. Although this is called a "master reset" I find it odd that the networking settings did NOT go back to default.
4. I've tried DHCP and static IP configs, also changed control port number.
5. Tried several different USB sticks of make/size.

I think there is something wedged in some internal config/flash/nvram memory somewhere. I find it hard to believe that there are different processors running the networking stack. If the unit will respond to http://:80 with a web page, but not to IP commands that sounds like a software glitch. Considering that it *was* working and then failed after some input, I think something bad latched internally.

Does anyone know any type of reset method OTHER than the "master reset" using the VCR+PWR buttons? Any other ideas?

Thanks!!!
post #785 of 902
RIP to tx-nr 3009 thread!
post #786 of 902
I have 2 Onkyo receivers in the same room. One (a 707) goes to the TV/speakers in the family room BEHIND it. The (a 3009) other goes to the TV/speakers in the living room.

I want to be able to have each Onkyo remote control ONLY its associated receiver. I know that I can go into each receiver under Hardware setup......then Remote ID....and can set the number as 1, 2 or 3....but when I change the number to 2 or 3, the remote no longer works. I panicked until I realized I could use the controls on the front of the receiver to change it back to #1.

I read somewhere that if you change the RECEIVER's remote ID, then you also have to change the Remote control's Remote ID so they can "talk" to each other. But, I can't figure out how to change the Remote ID for the Remote control.

Can anyone help me with this??

Thanks.
post #787 of 902
As mentioned in my previous post, I have 2 Onkyo receivers in the same room. My cable DVR and Roku 2 XS are connected to the Onkyo 707 at one end of the room.

I want to send the signals from THAT receiver to the Onkyo 3009 at the other end of the room, and have that receiver output audio and video to the tv and speakers in the main room.

I purchased a 1 x 2 splitter and a 50' HDMI cable from Sewell direct with the intention of using the HDMI OUT from the Onkyo 707 to go into the splitter, then one cable out from the splitter would go out to the TV in the family room, and the other cable out from the splitter would go to the Onkyo 3009.

The audio/video goes to the TV in the family room just fine, but doesn't work correctly coming out of the Onkyo 3009 in the Main room. It HAS to be some setting I have wrong in the 3009, because to test the splitter, I have connected the DVR and cable box directly to the splitter, and audio and video gets sent to both TVs correctly.

The cable that comes from the splitter into the 3009 is plugged into the VCR/DVR input. AN OPPO 93 is connected to the DVD input. HDMI out goes to the TV. I get both picture and sound correctly for a minute or so, then both go away.

This is driving me batty and I KNOW someone on here will have the answer I need.

Thanks so much.
post #788 of 902
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeinVegas View Post

I have 2 Onkyo receivers in the same room. One (a 707) goes to the TV/speakers in the family room BEHIND it. The (a 3009) other goes to the TV/speakers in the living room.

I want to be able to have each Onkyo remote control ONLY its associated receiver. I know that I can go into each receiver under Hardware setup......then Remote ID....and can set the number as 1, 2 or 3....but when I change the number to 2 or 3, the remote no longer works. I panicked until I realized I could use the controls on the front of the receiver to change it back to #1.

I read somewhere that if you change the RECEIVER's remote ID, then you also have to change the Remote control's Remote ID so they can "talk" to each other. But, I can't figure out how to change the Remote ID for the Remote control.

Can anyone help me with this??

Thanks.

From pg 65 of the manual (do you have the manual on CD or PDF?)

Remote ID
■Remote ID

When several Onkyo components are used in the same
room, their remote ID codes may overlap. To differentiate
the AV receiver from the other components, you can
change its remote ID from “1”, to “2” or “3”.
Note
• If you do change the AV receiver’s remote ID, be sure to change
the remote controller to the same ID (see below), otherwise, you
won’t be able to control it with the remote controller.

Changing the remote controller’s ID

1. While holding down RECEIVER, press and hold
down SETUP until RECEIVER lights (about 3
seconds) (➔ page 47).

2. Use the number buttons to enter ID 1, 2, or 3.
RECEIVER flashes twice.
post #789 of 902
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeinVegas View Post

As mentioned in my previous post, I have 2 Onkyo receivers in the same room. My cable DVR and Roku 2 XS are connected to the Onkyo 707 at one end of the room.

I want to send the signals from THAT receiver to the Onkyo 3009 at the other end of the room, and have that receiver output audio and video to the tv and speakers in the main room.

I purchased a 1 x 2 splitter and a 50' HDMI cable from Sewell direct with the intention of using the HDMI OUT from the Onkyo 707 to go into the splitter, then one cable out from the splitter would go out to the TV in the family room, and the other cable out from the splitter would go to the Onkyo 3009.

The audio/video goes to the TV in the family room just fine, but doesn't work correctly coming out of the Onkyo 3009 in the Main room. It HAS to be some setting I have wrong in the 3009, because to test the splitter, I have connected the DVR and cable box directly to the splitter, and audio and video gets sent to both TVs correctly.

The cable that comes from the splitter into the 3009 is plugged into the VCR/DVR input. AN OPPO 93 is connected to the DVD input. HDMI out goes to the TV. I get both picture and sound correctly for a minute or so, then both go away.

This is driving me batty and I KNOW someone on here will have the answer I need.

Thanks so much.

I don't have the answer straight away as I've never tried such a thing, nor do I have the HW to replicate your setup.

However, there are somethings that I would look at closely. This stuff is scattered all over the manual, so do some reading...

1. I suggest turning off the RHID and any HDMI "through" settings. Turn those to off.
2. Check the upscaling settings on the 3009 relative your VCR/DVR input. Try some different things, like straight, 1080p, etc.
3. See pt #1.
4. Turn off the ARC (Audio Return Channel) settings. You are connecting 2 intelligent switchers point-to-point, which is an edge case or undefined. There will be processing going on with the HDMI bit streams, and you want to reduce that as much as possible.

Maybe this leads you to think of other things.

Good luck!
post #790 of 902
I posted this before: Well, Im bumming. All of a sudden I am getting sound from my sources but no picture. Yes Ive switched cables around, and bought new cables. When I go direct from PS3 to TV, I have picture. So, after several reboots, it started working...

New information: Many times thinks work properly. But when the above happens, I have to reboot many times. One thing I noticed is that once it FINALLY does have a picture, right before the picture comes on I get an "HDMI Start" signal on face of AVR. Just posting in case that gives a clue as to my problem.
post #791 of 902
In case anyone is wondering, Chromecast works on the 3009 by just plugging in the Chromecast HDMI dongle into one of your HDMI input ports and the associated USB powered cable into the usb port on the receiver. Change to the HDMI input and BAM, you have Chromecast streaming available.
post #792 of 902
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Originally Posted by fuzz092888 View Post

I'm not surprised to hear that people are underwhelmed with Audyssey.

Not me.

I'm overwhelmed by the improvement in sound quality in my room, after running the full eight position Audyssey calibration.
Never knew my old speaker system was capable of sounding this good, especially my budget subwoofers.
Watching movies on Blu-ray is so much more impactful now, after running Audyssey, that I rarely go to commercial cinemas anymore.

Thanks Audyssey! smile.gif
post #793 of 902
Audyssey plus Dynamic EQ = amazing. Didn't expect (coming from a Pioneer with MCACC) that it could make such a difference!
post #794 of 902
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Originally Posted by Pfeffernuss View Post

Audyssey plus Dynamic EQ = amazing. Didn't expect (coming from a Pioneer with MCACC) that it could make such a difference!

I didn't like Dynamic EQ at first, because it pumped up the surround speakers to much.
But after several 8 position full Adyssey calibrations, the surround speakers are now less distracting.

Also, without Dynamic EQ engaged, your subwoofers all but disappear.
post #795 of 902
I've been playing around with Audyssey MultEQ xt32...eight positions calibrations (2 subs)...so far I like having Audyssey on with Dynamic EQ on. I have a 5.2 set up. My question is: the sub levels were adjusted by Audyssey to -1.5 and -2.0 (subs manually set at 75dB) when I use the remote "Home" setting for "Audio" ---> Subwoofer (Bass) 0dB, Subwoofer 1: -1.5dB, Subwoofer 2: -2.0dB...What is the Subwoofer (Bass) setting and what does it do??? There is no documentation in the manual that describes precisely what it does and how it should be used e.g., increase/decrease only subs levels, increase/decrease all speaker's bass levels, increase/decrease only front bass levels. Anyone? Thanks!!
post #796 of 902
Hi.
I need some help. Not sure where to ask so I'll start with all the very knowledgeable folks here. I have a 3009. My BD player is a Sony BDP S590. I have a Benq w6000 hooked up to output HDMI output 2.In order to get the sony to play through the Benq I have to set the monitor out to HDMI Sub. When I set it to both the Sony seems to have handshake issues. It just flashes every once in a while. My Apple TV and Directv both work fine when set to both. I've tried different cables and a different input.
Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Howard
post #797 of 902
Hi there,
Any 3009 owners have tv Pana ST60 with this problem? I used to have a LG LED TV and just upgraded to 60ST60 and I have a slight problem with the audio.
The Pana TV has no sound from cable box when I turn off 3009 to standby and they all connected by HDMI cables. I mean there is no sound on tv, even there was on LG tv before and I haven't changed anything on 3009 receiver..

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Edited by candoan - 9/18/13 at 11:38am
post #798 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by candoan View Post

Hi there,
Any 3009 owners have tv Pana ST60 with this problem? I used to have a LG LED TV and just upgraded to 60ST60 and I have a slight problem with the audio.
The Pana TV has no sound from cable box when I turn off 3009 to standby and they all connected by HDMI cables. I mean there is no sound on tv, even there was on LG tv before and I haven't changed anything on 3009 receiver..

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Any inputs please. May be I should contact Panasonic service.....
post #799 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by candoan View Post

Any inputs please. May be I should contact Panasonic service.....

Do you have the Viera Connect turned on I the TV? That is the HDMI CEC by Panasonic
post #800 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by btinindy View Post

Do you have the Viera Connect turned on I the TV? That is the HDMI CEC by Panasonic

Thanks for reply.
Yes I did but having no sound on TV.
post #801 of 902
Hi guys,

My 3009 has the 24p bug even after updating the firmware to the latest one. Any ideas on how to fix this?


I think the bug is similar to the 818 24p bug.

Thanks.
post #802 of 902
No 24p bug on my 3009, well at least that I'm aware of. Been playing lots of Blu-rays but no sign of that dreaded bug...
post #803 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_1335 View Post

Hi guys,

My 3009 has the 24p bug even after updating the firmware to the latest one. Any ideas on how to fix this?


I think the bug is similar to the 818 24p bug.

Thanks.

Sorry to know that happened to you. Nothing wrong to my 3009 at all.
post #804 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pfeffernuss View Post

No 24p bug on my 3009, well at least that I'm aware of. Been playing lots of Blu-rays but no sign of that dreaded bug...

Could I know what settings you are using for video?
post #805 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_1335 View Post

Hi guys,

My 3009 has the 24p bug even after updating the firmware to the latest one. Any ideas on how to fix this?


I think the bug is similar to the 818 24p bug.

Thanks.

I've replied to the Onkyo support entry you submitted. I think I maybe experiencing this as well. If you read the 818 thread not everyone has the same sensitivity to the problem, so people notice it and others don't. It was only when the 818 was hooked up to a external Video Processor that showed the Onkyo receiving a 23.976 signal but outputting at 24 which causing the dropped frame every 41 seconds.

Could you tell me what you use to test the 24p bug? Like I said I notice it from time to time but I would really like to test to confirm the 24p bug is present in our receivers.

Maybe I'll start a thread asking all owners of the 3009/5009 and 5509 along with owners of the Integra 70.3/80.3 both DTR and DHC's who have an external Video Processor to check what the receiver/pre-pro is outputting when receiving a 23.976 signal.
post #806 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

I've replied to the Onkyo support entry you submitted. I think I maybe experiencing this as well. If you read the 818 thread not everyone has the same sensitivity to the problem, so people notice it and others don't. It was only when the 818 was hooked up to a external Video Processor that showed the Onkyo receiving a 23.976 signal but outputting at 24 which causing the dropped frame every 41 seconds.

Could you tell me what you use to test the 24p bug? Like I said I notice it from time to time but I would really like to test to confirm the 24p bug is present in our receivers.

Maybe I'll start a thread asking all owners of the 3009/5009 and 5509 along with owners of the Integra 70.3/80.3 both DTR and DHC's who have an external Video Processor to check what the receiver/pre-pro is outputting when receiving a 23.976 signal.

I see the 24p bug all the time. I was watching Drive (2011) the other day. Within the first 2 minutes, it's really noticeable during slow camera pans.
post #807 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_1335 View Post

I see the 24p bug all the time. I was watching Drive (2011) the other day. Within the first 2 minutes, it's really noticeable during slow camera pans.
are you talking about the judder or the drop frame every 41 seconds? Judder is normal. Well if you want to bypass the VP on the receiver press VCR + return, then press return again till it says skip.
post #808 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

are you talking about the judder or the drop frame every 41 seconds? Judder is normal. Well if you want to bypass the VP on the receiver press VCR + return, then press return again till it says skip.

I'm referring to the dropped frame every 41 seconds.

Was the 24p bug still there after you bypassed the VP?
post #809 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_1335 View Post

I'm referring to the dropped frame every 41 seconds.

Was the 24p bug still there after you bypassed the VP?

I think I'm not as sensitive as you, so I only notice it intermittently. That's why I wanted to know what material you have been noticing it on. I have almost 500 blu-rays and I was hoping that I would have one of the movies you notice this 24p drop frame, but I don't own Drive. Do you have other BDs that make this drop frame noticable?

Bypassing the VP should eliminate the 24p bug, you can also use the sub out as the VP doesn't touch this output. Since you are able to see the drop frame more clearly than me, try bypassing the VP and watch the scenes you noticed the dropped frames. If the 3009 indeed has this 24p bug then you shouldn't see the drop frame once the VP is bypassed.

By chance do you have access to a external VP like a DVDO edge? Sending the signal from the Onkyo to one of these will confirm whether it is indeed passing 24p as 23.976 or 24.00.
post #810 of 902
Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

I think I'm not as sensitive as you, so I only notice it intermittently. That's why I wanted to know what material you have been noticing it on. I have almost 500 blu-rays and I was hoping that I would have one of the movies you notice this 24p drop frame, but I don't own Drive. Do you have other BDs that make this drop frame noticable?

Bypassing the VP should eliminate the 24p bug, you can also use the sub out as the VP doesn't touch this output. Since you are able to see the drop frame more clearly than me, try bypassing the VP and watch the scenes you noticed the dropped frames. If the 3009 indeed has this 24p bug then you shouldn't see the drop frame once the VP is bypassed.

By chance do you have access to a external VP like a DVDO edge? Sending the signal from the Onkyo to one of these will confirm whether it is indeed passing 24p as 23.976 or 24.00.

No, I don't have something like a DVDO edge. As I recall, Casino Royale has a panning scene around the time Bond arrives at the casino to start the game. I'm not sure of the exact timestamp.

Dark Knight has some panning scenes too at beginning of the movie. I guess you're lucky in the sense that you don't notice it often or it doesn't bother you that much.
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