Originally Posted by mbuck
My use is HT and Gaming, not a music guy myself.
I had been looking at a cheaper receiver, $350 range, but the first Denon I bought was DOA, then found a Pioneer Elite SC61 for $600 and grabbed it. Suppose I could return that for a different $350 receiver and put that towards a nicer projector but sounds like the SC61 is a very nice receiver for both sound and display.
BTW, what's SPL...couldn't figure that one out.
What do you think of the B&W subwoofer compared to the Klipsch RW12? The RW12 is on sale at Newegg right now for $299 so considering between that, the B&W or the SVS. I'm not a big rattle the house or even room, but do want good range and for movies that low end is important.
I don't have experience with Pioneer Elite, but do like the Class D amplification as it runs cooler. The SC61 is even more powerful than my Yamaha and it drives my inefficient speakers with ease. The only thing I wish it had (hindsight is always 20/20) is dual HDMI output for the TV & projector. However a $15 HDMI switch has no problems handling this role.
SPL = Sound Pressure Level. I use a Radio Shack meter which looks like this one:
They aren't 100% accurate, but there are correction files on the forum if you want to do a search. The most important part is setting the level properly - so accurate SPL isn't as important as just having all speakers at the same level at your listening location and modify the FR curve of all to be pretty level.
I don't know which B&W sub you're referring to, but they're all pretty highly priced (B&W isn't exactly a budget brand - even the well priced 6-series). You're much better off with going with a company that specializes in subs and/or does internet direct (SVS, HSU, etc.). I've actually owned the Klipsch RW12 for a few years now (got the same deal on them) and basically bought them due to price. I guess it depends on your setup, but in my living room they shake the whole house plenty -- too much even. Even if I did get a more powerful sub, I couldn't turn it up any higher. A friend of mine owns the BIC PL-200 (another budget sub) and that also sounds just fine in his house. Again, you'd want to level match this to the speakers at ~80Hz (or wherever you X-over). If you were into music a "tighter" sub would be more important, but for HT you'll be fine with something more budget friendly.
Lots of what I wrote can be a contentious subject on here... people get really religious about speakers, amps, subs, room acoustics, etc etc etc. I've listened to sound systems from a few hundred bucks all the way to the price of a nice car. For me, the sweet spot is towards the "bottom" of the range, though most would still consider it expensive. For example, I've compared the B&W 683 ($750/ea) to the B&W 802 ($12k each) and for my purposes, I didn't hear much difference (at normal SPL). Maybe I just don't have golden ears (most people don't with a blind fold on). No doubt it's a better speaker though, much better.
What's your budget for speakers BTW? I think as long as you're in the ~300-700 per speaker range you can do really well with a little bit of research. Again, depends on your needs though. If you want reference level sound in a large room it'll be hard to get with that type of budget. If you want them to be "pretty" add to the cost, etc. For example, the TCA Pro/Sho's were under $400 each and could move a TON of air, but not particularly pretty.Edited by ///3oris - 6/26/13 at 11:23pm