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post #391 of 1083
12/30/11 at 10:12am
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I don't know how they get away with that. This is what Amazon promises:

"Enhanced Delivery
For this TV, we offer free enhanced delivery through one of our specialty shippers. A representative of a common carrier will deliver your TV to any room suitable for testing, unpack it, ensure that it is working properly to guarantee no damage occurred during transportation, and dispose of all packaging material. Learn More"

So anyone that is getting this TV from Amazon needs to print this out. Show it to the driver and have him sign it before he takes it off the truck.
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post #392 of 1083
12/30/11 at 11:38am
This time the Pilot experience was great. They delivered on the time window scheduled. They assembled the TV and put it on the stand. No physical damage as far as I can see. I already started the slides. I won't be able to test the TV for another 4 days but it's worth the way. By the way it's a July build. They have the FBr fix, right?
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post #393 of 1083
12/30/11 at 3:27pm
Looking for some insight on banding. My 42ST30 shows (to my eye) a considerable amount of magenta hued coloring within grey gradients graphics material. And on various shades of blues there distinct coloring banding on the same type of material. I have noticed on almost all displays for years in varying degrees but this is more than I would consider reasonable, a lot more.

What, if any, settings can be used to reduce the amount with the ST30's controls? I want to keep the set, and so impressed by the color range. The color on my set the most vibrant and deep I have own to date.

Any help would be appreciated.
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post #394 of 1083
12/30/11 at 3:48pm
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post #395 of 1083
12/30/11 at 4:01pm
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Not that this should make a difference. But what states do you guys all live in. The only reason I ask is I live in NY and this would never happen here. The clientele or people who live within at least 4 out of the 5 boroughs are primarily middle to upper class. Now don't take offense to this because it's not meant personally but places like PA, AZ, FL would seem more affluent to a much lower income and a lower standard of living, so basically the people who are delivering to you are extra poor and a lot less caring. It's just a theory I have. Not saying its fact butt a theory. Lower income states with lower property value produce a poorer lower class. And let's be honest the delivery men most likely aren't pulling in that much an hour to begin with. Not to say what's going on is right. I can just see it being more prevalent in lower income states when this guy is delivering a tv that probably takes him months to make enough to afford.


Um... wow.

Not settings or issues related and your statements bare no relevance to this thread.

A persons integrity is never dictated by income....... And I would think there would be millions upon millions of Americans that would take offence to that line of thinking. No offence to you, of course. But in my mind, the poorer people you are referring to, more than likely think the same about richer, *cough* affluent people.

I do take person offence to that like of thinking. I would expect no less from people who sit behind a screen to say things they wouldn't to strangers in public face to face.

Simply amazing.
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post #396 of 1083
12/30/11 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Not that this should make a difference. But what states do you guys all live in. The only reason I ask is I live in NY and this would never happen here. The clientele or people who live within at least 4 out of the 5 boroughs are primarily middle to upper class. Now don't take offense to this because it's not meant personally but places like PA, AZ, FL would seem more affluent to a much lower income and a lower standard of living, so basically the people who are delivering to you are extra poor and a lot less caring. It's just a theory I have. Not saying its fact butt a theory. Lower income states with lower property value produce a poorer lower class. And let's be honest the delivery men most likely aren't pulling in that much an hour to begin with. Not to say what's going on is right. I can just see it being more prevalent in lower income states when this guy is delivering a tv that probably takes him months to make enough to afford.

You're kidding, right?

Mine was delivered last Tuesday. It was not Pilot, but a contractor. A man and his teen aged son brought it into the room I wanted, unpacked it, set it on the stand, put the batteries in the remote, and turned it on to make sure it was working. I live in southern new mexico, and the delivery was from El Paso, Tx. Neither area is known as high income, so that shoots your theory to hell.
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post #397 of 1083
12/30/11 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Not that this should make a difference. But what states do you guys all live in. The only reason I ask is I live in NY and this would never happen here. The clientele or people who live within at least 4 out of the 5 boroughs are primarily middle to upper class. Now don't take offense to this because it's not meant personally but places like PA, AZ, FL would seem more affluent to a much lower income and a lower standard of living, so basically the people who are delivering to you are extra poor and a lot less caring. It's just a theory I have. Not saying its fact butt a theory. Lower income states with lower property value produce a poorer lower class. And let's be honest the delivery men most likely aren't pulling in that much an hour to begin with. Not to say what's going on is right. I can just see it being more prevalent in lower income states when this guy is delivering a tv that probably takes him months to make enough to afford.

this guys post almost always sound arrogant and snobbish and with some kind of attitude...

would never happen there...BS.

i live in Pa. and have had 5 displays delivered 2 were good and 3 bad, it is a draw on who you get and how much they care and has nothing to do with income level...jeeeesus!!!

have you ever been to Az? some very high income and affluent people there..

that post should be deleted... in very poor taste and sad in this day people still think like you...

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ive re-read that post a few times just to make sure what i was seeing.... and still i am flabbergasted.. lol...just wow
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post #398 of 1083
12/30/11 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

before they left I than tipped them nicely.

glad you had a good experience, next time it may not be anywhere near as good. depends on if the delivery guys cares or not, poor, rich, black, white doesnt matter.


i like that your affluent butt made a point to say you tipped them "nicely". i tip too when deserved but i dont know if i tipped them nicely...ha.ha.ah
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post #399 of 1083
12/30/11 at 5:08pm
Guys relax. It was a theory. There's nothing wrong with trying to hypothesize of why in certain areas of the world people are less respectful or what makes them that way. It's not offensive or at least meant to be. It's meant to be an observation as to whypeople are a certain way and trust me if you think for one second people in who live in manhattan on the upper West or East side don't get preferential treatment you're crazy because they do. Solely based on their income. Do I agree with it no. I do not. And by the way the post had relevance to the convo even though I know its not settings related. You all complain about Pilot services I'm just trying to figure out why inother states theyre crap just throwing crazy ideas out there. Please do not take offense to what I said. I am far from upper class and far from snobbish. I'm middle class and understand the value of a dollar but I also understand the way the world and society works and if you try and act like life isn't unfair you're living in the dark.
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post #400 of 1083
12/30/11 at 5:11pm
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glad you had a good experience, next time it may not be anywhere near as good. depends on if the delivery guys cares or not, poor, rich, black, white doesnt matter.

i like that your affluent butt made a point to say you tipped them "nicely". i tip too when deserved but i dont know if i tipped them nicely...ha.ha.ah

What does black or white have anything to do with this convo. Do you know what race I am. Did I ever mention a race. No but clearly race is the first thing that runs through your mind, you clearly associate class with race because that's the first thing you stated. That's the definition of arrogance and ignorance. Nothing I have posted has been snobbish and I resent the fact that you posted that. Get with it. You sound foolish. The reason I said I tipped them nicely is because they deserved it and let's be honest a tip has a lot to do with how delivery men handle your belongings, and what they do with them when they deliver them. What world are you living in where you try to act like that's not true? Maybe that was your problem, did you not tip them, did you feel you deserved the service? All I was saying was that people of higher income states might be getting better treatment because of the location of which and where they live , nothing was prejudicial in any way, i clearly was stating a possible and very realistic theoretical reason for the difference in treatment from the same company. I'm sorry I offended anyone it wasn't meant that way. I'm done defending what I said, forget it was mentioned and I'll erase the post. Clearly it was taken the wrong way because of my possible lack of being able to explain myself properly through text. Mark it seems every thread you've been in someone has had either a problem with you or an argument was started by you ridiculing them about something they asked or a statement you felt was "stupid". What's your problem that in this day and age people like you still act the way you act. Grow up.
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post #401 of 1083
12/30/11 at 5:19pm
Not trying to speak for Mark, but I believe that would have been meant as a "figure of speech", not literary.
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post #402 of 1083
12/30/11 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Guys relax. It was a theory. There's nothing wrong with trying to hypothesize of why in certain areas of the world people are less respectful or what makes them that way. It's not offensive or at least meant to be. It's meant to be an observation as to whypeople are a certain way and trust me if you think for one second people in who live in manhattan on the upper West or East side don't get preferential treatment you're crazy because they do. Solely based on their income. Do I agree with it no. I do not. And by the way the post had relevance to the convo even though I know its not settings related. You all complain about Pilot services I'm just trying to figure out why inother states theyre crap just throwing crazy ideas out there. Please do not take offense to what I said. I am far from upper class and far from snobbish. I'm middle class and understand the value of a dollar but I also understand the way the world and society works and if you try and act like life isn't unfair you're living in the dark.


just dig your hole deeper...wow...
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post #403 of 1083
12/30/11 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by Stormwulf View Post

Not trying to speak for Mark, but I believe that would have been meant as a "figure of speech", not literary.

clearly semp doesnt get it... just have to laugh at him, outrageous...
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post #404 of 1083
12/30/11 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

What does black or white have anything to do with this convo. Do you know what race I am. Did I ever mention a race. No but clearly race is the first thing that runs through your mind, you clearly associate class with race because that's the first thing you stated. That's the definition of arrogance and ignorance. Nothing I have posted has been snobbish and I resent the fact that you posted that. Get with it. You sound foolish. The reason I said I tipped them nicely is because they deserved it and let's be honest a tip has a lot to do with how delivery men handle your belongings, and what they do with them when they deliver them. What world are you living in where you try to act like that's not true? Maybe that was your problem, did you not tip them, did you feel you deserved the service? All I was saying was that people of higher income states might be getting better treatment because of the location of which and where they live , nothing was prejudicial in any way, i clearly was stating a possible and very realistic theoretical reason for the difference in treatment from the same company. I'm sorry I offended anyone it wasn't meant that way. I'm done defending what I said, forget it was mentioned and I'll erase the post. Clearly it was taken the wrong way because of my possible lack of being able to explain myself properly through text. Mark it seems every thread you've been in someone has had either a problem with you or an argument was started by you ridiculing them about something they asked or a statement you felt was "stupid". What's your problem that in this day and age people like you still act the way you act. Grow up.

LMAO....in what way was your bigot post to be taken?

and it has nothing to do with race or income level, that was my point mr. semper fi


no i dont start arguments, but i have noticed your lame post and i will defend or correct incorrect post, simple as that.
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post #405 of 1083
12/30/11 at 7:19pm
since several of you recently posted your experiences with Pilot delivery here I will add mine:

my 55VT30 from amazon arrived via pilot...although amazon forced me to pay $189 for "white glove shipping" (during a price match from frys, even though the fry's site offered less expensive shipping options), the delivery guys from pilot said they didnt even offer white glove shipping. they snickered, walked it in the front door, set the box on the floor and said hasta luego.

i got on the phone with their supervisor and the spvsr said the same thing. she said they are not required to do anything other than bring it through the door.

i called amazon and complained and they asked what i wanted and i asked for a refund of the white glove shipping charge and they did it so all is good with amazon.

sneak peek out of the box picture looks extreeeeemely dark...kind of freaked me out... but ive been running the slides and hopefully after the slides and tweaking the settings the display will meet my expectations. will post my results, good or bad
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post #406 of 1083
12/30/11 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

my 55VT30 from amazon arrived via pilot...although amazon forced me to pay $189 for "white glove shipping" (during a price match from frys, even though the fry's site offered less expensive shipping options), the delivery guys from pilot said they didnt even offer white glove shipping. they snickered, walked it in the front door, set the box on the floor and said hasta luego.

I'm in OC as you and had my 55VT30 delivered by pilot from Amazon. They took it out of the box, put it on the stand and asked me where I wanted it. Then plugged it in to see if everything was ok! Oh...and I didn't have to pay Amazon $189 for that.
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post #407 of 1083
12/30/11 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

since several of you recently posted your experiences with Pilot delivery here I will add mine:

my 55VT30 from amazon arrived via pilot...although amazon forced me to pay $189 for "white glove shipping" (during a price match from frys, even though the fry's site offered less expensive shipping options), the delivery guys from pilot said they didnt even offer white glove shipping. they snickered, walked it in the front door, set the box on the floor and said hasta luego.

i got on the phone with their supervisor and the spvsr said the same thing. she said they are not required to do anything other than bring it through the door.

i called amazon and complained and they asked what i wanted and i asked for a refund of the white glove shipping charge and they did it so all is good with amazon.

sneak peek out of the box picture looks extreeeeemely dark...kind of freaked me out... but ive been running the slides and hopefully after the slides and tweaking the settings the display will meet my expectations. will post my results, good or bad

you must have gotten bad service because you live in Orange County, Ca. which is poverty stricken...lol...no really OC is very upscale and just proves it doesnt matter where you live as to if you get good delivery people or not...

ive had 5 displays delivered in the last 3 months, all by different delivery guys, 2 times they did the full white glove deal, 3 other times they just let me turn it on to see that it worked, oh and 3 times was just one guy.

to put demographics in the mix is just plain ignorant.
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post #408 of 1083
12/30/11 at 8:31pm
Well, I am in Southern California and as I said, delivery was horrible, but it did not need to be that way. One delivery guy was just arrogant and a jerk. All they had to do was what they should do. I spoke to the manager at the Los Angeles Pilot warehouse and she told me that Amazon has too restrictive of a delivery policy and that is why they could not help out a bit. When I called and told the Amazon Customer Service Manager that Pilot said they were the problem, not Pilot, he was taken back and did not know what to say. He said he will be forwarding this issue up the flag pole. Again, their is the letter of the law, and then the spirit. I agree to let them deliver two days early and all they had to do was spend a couple extra minutes assisting a customer. I am just one person and they know that even if I get upset, it really does not matter in the bigger scheme of things. All I can say is do not sign any paperwork until you are 100% satisfied. If not, do not sign until you are. Delay them until they do their job 100%. The last thing they want or need to do is waste time at your house. That may be all the leverage you need to get them to perform.
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post #409 of 1083
12/30/11 at 9:53pm
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sneak peek out of the box picture looks extreeeeemely dark...kind of freaked me out... but ive been running the slides and hopefully after the slides and tweaking the settings the display will meet my expectations. will post my results, good or bad

From memory - our set is just over 30 days old - when first fired up it asks whether it is for Demo or Home use, and when you tell it "Home" it defaults to Standard picture mode, which is VERY DARK, presumably to meet Energy Star rating....
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post #410 of 1083
12/31/11 at 3:08am
^^ I hope he is not doing the slides in standard mode.
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post #411 of 1083
12/31/11 at 8:54am
Hello, I would like to say that I'm glad I found this forum and hope to learn a lot from it. As you can tell by my name I'm very new to the Plasma TV world as I just bought myself a 50GT30 the other day. Unfortunately I started regular use of it and so far I'm happy.

I wanted to find different calibrations what will make the picture really stand out. I have a few questions after reading D-Nice's thread about using the slides for 100hrs before you start calibrating:

Before I found this site, I used the settings from the plasma tv buying guide for the GT30. I can't post the link so here it is:

Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 70
Brightness: 60
Color: 48
Sharpness: 10
Tint: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2
CATS: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
24P Direct in: 60Hz
In Pro Settings Menu (White Balance)
W/B high R +16
W/B high G 0
W/B high B +16
W/B low R +7
W/B low G 0
W/B low B +4

Used not more than an hour or two, and I'm worried if I made a mistake playing around with the custom calibration settings before 100 hrs. Did I cause any type of "damage" with those settings?


My next question is can the slides be run AFTER the tv has been used? So far it's been around 20 hrs. If not, can D-Nice's settings be used without any risks?

I apologize in advance for the noob questions but greatly appreciate any help. This is my first Plasma and really value it a lot.

Thank you.
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post #412 of 1083
12/31/11 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by Dierkdr View Post

From memory - our set is just over 30 days old - when first fired up it asks whether it is for Demo or Home use, and when you tell it "Home" it defaults to Standard picture mode, which is VERY DARK, presumably to meet Energy Star rating....

Mine is a November build and I'm pretty sure the two choices were "Store Demo" or "Store" and "Home" so naturally I chose Home. Was that the right thing to do? Havent seen any instructions here otherwise?

and yes, the default setting is standard mode, although during my sneak peek i breezed through the other stock modes (thx, etc) and they looked dark as well. im not making any judgements until i finish the slides and try the settings...
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post #413 of 1083
12/31/11 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

^^ I hope he is not doing the slides in standard mode.

i followed the instructions on page 1 and i am using the custom settings listed by d-nice to run the slides...
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post #414 of 1083
12/31/11 at 10:24am
Where can you see the build date?
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post #415 of 1083
12/31/11 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by gce View Post

I'm in OC as you and had my 55VT30 delivered by pilot from Amazon. They took it out of the box, put it on the stand and asked me where I wanted it. Then plugged it in to see if everything was ok! Oh...and I didn't have to pay Amazon $189 for that.

odd how we got such different service from the same company...
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post #416 of 1083
12/31/11 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by New2PlasmaTV View Post

Where can you see the build date?

sticker on back of tv
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post #417 of 1083
12/31/11 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

sticker on back of tv

Thank you.
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post #418 of 1083
12/31/11 at 3:08pm
Mine is March 2011, is that a bad thing?
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post #419 of 1083
12/31/11 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by New2PlasmaTV View Post

Mine is March 2011, is that a bad thing?

Could have the FBR's unless you did the A board swap. Mine is a May build and no probs since i got it 3 weeks ago.
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post #420 of 1083
12/31/11 at 4:28pm
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Could have the FBR's unless you did the A board swap. Mine is a May build and no probs since i got it 3 weeks ago.

Not sure about the FBR how would I notice it? From my understanding firmware update may have resolved it. Do you mind taking a look at my previous questions please. Thank you.
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