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post #841 of 1090
3-D included?
post #842 of 1090
Sept build 55st30 here, running slides now, about 24 hours in.

Which settings should be manually recorded prior to applying DNice settings? And if different, which settings vary from tv to tv due to factory calibration?

Thanks for your time
post #843 of 1090
How many hours continuously (per session) are you supposed to use those slides for during break-in ?
Also how many hours (or sessions) per day ?
And what time interval (seconds) is used for each slide (before moving on to the next) ?

I have a new 42" GT30 plasma.
post #844 of 1090
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Originally Posted by dstew100 View Post

Which settings should be manually recorded prior to applying DNice settings? And if different, which settings vary from tv to tv due to factory calibration?

Not sure what you are asking. You don't have to record any settings before applying DNice's settings. If you want to revert back to them, just use the "reset to factory settings" option.

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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

How many hours continuously (per session) are you supposed to use those slides for during break-in ?
Also how many hours (or sessions) per day ?
And what time interval (seconds) is used for each slide (before moving on to the next) ?
I have a new 42" GT30 plasma.

I ran mine for 100 hours continuously (after asking about that on the forums) using the slowest setting (I think it was 30 seconds). I wish I hadn't bothered though, because I didn't end up using D-Nice's settings (too dark on my set), which essentially made the 100 hours of slides a waste of time (I wish I had instead spent those hours breaking in the TV normally and being able to watch it during that period!).

Cheers,

Wayne
post #845 of 1090
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

How many hours continuously (per session) are you supposed to use those slides for during break-in ?
Also how many hours (or sessions) per day ?
And what time interval (seconds) is used for each slide (before moving on to the next) ?

I have a new 42" GT30 plasma.

I'm not done with my slides, bout 44 hours in, but I believe I know the answer to this one :-)

The recommendation is to run them continuously. I was concerned that the set needed rest (maybe an hour off once or twice a day) but there are multiple references stating it is not needed. I've checked my set for heat several times and it is fine. I do have adequate space around the tv so it stays cool.

I'm not sure that d nice or one of the calibrators has explicitly stated "do not allow the slides to stop" but I believe if you had given it some short rests there would be no negative impact. The recommendation though is don't watch something else (just recommendations, some do and are still happy with their PQ)

The last concern, and many nightmares have happened, is do your best to ensure nothing stops the slides and ends up with some text or menu sitting there while you are resting, at work, away, etc... Silly stuff happens, I think I read about a cat jumping on a remote in one instance so get that thing stashed away from the pets (and prolly the fam/roomates); I believe Image Retention (IR) occurred from some text/menu that came up. There are other ways this could happen of course. Seems like slides show on a thumb drive is the least error prone approach to me.

After my slides were running for 20 minutes or so I walked away for about 10 minutes and when I came back there was a viera logo, AHHHHH. It moved on slide transitions but get that thing out of there. There was some menu setting to turn it off. I'd look it up for you, but that would add another 5 minutes to my slideshow and this is torture enough:-) You'll find it.

Some folks say the importance of the slides are overrated, they may be right but I'm not finding out. Not a big deal to me just to do it right even if it's a peace of mind thing. A Pro calibrator recommended this procedure, and he's better at this than me.

So 4 days 4 hours later you are good. Oh and be in the picture viewer or slide show mode when you set up the pre-slideshow settings. Depending on where you start they may be getting applied to one of the TV modes and not the media mode used for picture viewing.
post #846 of 1090
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post

Not sure what you are asking. You don't have to record any settings before applying DNice's settings. If you want to revert back to them, just use the "reset to factory settings" option.

Thanks Wayne, from reading I think only service menu settings are tweaked in factory calibration and cannot be retrieved once changed. So GT owners need to record but not me. was just coming back to post that :-) Appreciate the response.

This Post has some good info for what to record if you, a) d nice with with a GT, b) want to play with SM settings, C) Have a tech apply one of the two FBr fixes or D) pay for pro calibration (I'd do before and after)
post #847 of 1090
Thanks a lot for the detailed and fast replies. Still I think I will run 8-10 hours sessions and then have a 1-2 hour break, just to be on the smooth side
I get that the time between slides (from one second to 30) does not make much of a difference ?
post #848 of 1090
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

Thanks a lot for the detailed and fast replies. Still I think I will run 8-10 hours sessions and then have a 1-2 hour break, just to be on the smooth side
I get that the time between slides (from one second to 30) does not make much of a difference ?

I ran my 60ST30 straight thru the slides. The picture on mine looks great and I am very happy with it. The slideshow setting for Display Interval: SLOW.
post #849 of 1090
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

Thanks a lot for the detailed and fast replies. Still I think I will run 8-10 hours sessions and then have a 1-2 hour break, just to be on the smooth side
I get that the time between slides (from one second to 30) does not make much of a difference ?

Time between slide transitions should be 30 seconds (slow setting). It's stated in d nice instructions.
post #850 of 1090
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

Still I think I will run 8-10 hours sessions and then have a 1-2 hour break, just to be on the smooth side

Please note, I have not SEEN one of the calibrators say it was bad to rest the plasma for a short time periodically during the slides. I actually have no idea if it is bad to do so. The recommendations from them is to run it non stop. I'm not saying it's wrong to rest, I just don't really know.

I'm at about 48 hours in and thinking of your question had me double check temps back there. It is surprisingly cool all over the back and front of set, I was concerned before I started about the non stop but I am not any more. Recommend you run your hand just off the surface all over before your first break and consider the break may not be necessary.

I've also been fortunately able to stay pretty close over the weekend so that's helped with the warm and fuzzy about slides getting stopped and such.

Just my fairly amateur opinion :-)
post #851 of 1090
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

Thanks a lot for the detailed and fast replies. Still I think I will run 8-10 hours sessions and then have a 1-2 hour break, just to be on the smooth side
I get that the time between slides (from one second to 30) does not make much of a difference ?

If it makes you feel better to turn the display off after 8-10 hours, go ahead. However it is not needed.
post #852 of 1090
DNice:

I must be retarded, but I am having a hell of a time finding your initial instructions for running the break in slides....I looked for them on HDJ forums as well. I just want to follow your process to a T and use your settings. I have just bought a 55ST30.

Also, for some reason, I cannot get into the pro settings menu on my tv, as it is always grayed out!

Please help and thanks a bunch!
post #853 of 1090
Nevermind, I see that they are in the very beginning of this very thread....so sorry, I am obviously retarded.

However, what is causing my inability to get into the pro settings?

Thanks again!
post #854 of 1090
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Nevermind, I see that they are in the very beginning of this very thread....so sorry, I am obviously retarded.

However, what is causing my inability to get into the pro settings?

Thanks again!

You can only access them via "custom" mode.
post #855 of 1090
Ok, Thanks! I already screwed up and have watched some full screen content, and then had my settings at 50, rather than as described by DNICE. I have 15 hours on the TV already between full screen content and the slides, however, this was done on Cinema and not utilizing DNICE's settings for break in Hopefully I can go home and change to his numbers and still be able to utilize his settings.........
post #856 of 1090
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Ok, Thanks! I already screwed up and have watched some full screen content, and then had my settings at 50, rather than as described by DNICE. I have 15 hours on the TV already between full screen content and the slides, however, this was done on Cinema and not utilizing DNICE's settings for break in Hopefully I can go home and change to his numbers and still be able to utilize his settings.........

Finished my 100 hrs this morning. Looking forward to inputting tonight when I get home from work. Will let you know what I think. FYI my room is naturally dark as it being in the basement with no windows. Hope this is ideal condition
post #857 of 1090
Yeah, you are in an ideal environment! Let me know how it turns out. Were you able to follow DNICE's procedure exactly? I fear I already screwed up by the mixed content and not running the slides on the same picture settings......grrrrrrrr.....
post #858 of 1090
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Originally Posted by cpcat View Post

60hz for the st/gt as 48hz causes flicker.
96hz on the vt should not cause flicker but
I can't say from experience as I have a gt.

How do you 60hz to 96hz on VT30? Looks like default is set to 60 and 96 is greyed out. Wanted to try changing but don't think I can.
post #859 of 1090
I apologize if I have overlooked someone's post on this matter. I am wondering if anyone has tried DNICE's settings for ST30 without following his break in procedures to the letter. The only reason I ask is that I am only able to run the slides overnight. During the day I make sure it is full screen content only, but my kids refuse to watch colored slides

If I cannot reap the benefits of his settings because I didn't break in EXACTLY as described, I wonder if I should give up and just run the slides at night on a more subdued picture setting than what he prescribed.

Thoughts/Input anyone?
post #860 of 1090
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

I apologize if I have overlooked someone's post on this matter. I am wondering if anyone has tried DNICE's settings for ST30 without following his break in procedures to the letter. The only reason I ask is that I am only able to run the slides overnight. During the day I make sure it is full screen content only, but my kids refuse to watch colored slides

If I cannot reap the benefits of his settings because I didn't break in EXACTLY as described, I wonder if I should give up and just run the slides at night on a more subdued picture setting than what he prescribed.

Thoughts/Input anyone?

I'm in the EXACT same boat as you and would like to know the answer as well.
post #861 of 1090
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Originally Posted by TheMightyQuinn View Post

I'm in the EXACT same boat as you and would like to know the answer as well.

Well, let's hope someone has seen it and can respond. DNICE, what are your thoughts? If we only ran the slides for approx. 70% of the first 100 hours or so and full content the rest of the time, how far off the mark do you think we would be?
post #862 of 1090
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post


Well, let's hope someone has seen it and can respond. DNICE, what are your thoughts? If we only ran the slides for approx. 70% of the first 100 hours or so and full content the rest of the time, how far off the mark do you think we would be?

I don't know. You did not follow the instructions laid out so you are in unknown territory.
post #863 of 1090
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I don't know. You did not follow the instructions laid out so you are in unknown territory.

agreed, and trust me, it was not my intention to screw the pooch. I was just thinking you might have some idea.

Anyway, while I have you here, why do you have the contrast and color cranked so high when doing the break in slides? I assumed it was to age the set more rapidly. I am not questioning your wisdom, just want to learn or perhaps understand the rationale behind it.

Thanks!
post #864 of 1090
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

agreed, and trust me, it was not my intention to screw the pooch. I was just thinking you might have some idea.

Anyway, while I have you here, why do you have the contrast and color cranked so high when doing the break in slides? I assumed it was to age the set more rapidly. I am not questioning your wisdom, just want to learn or perhaps understand the rationale behind it.

Thanks!

You might find this interesting:
http://allhighdef.com/2011/01/05/gen...-in-procedure/

Edit: if you want to use D-nice's settings, you would be going with "strategy 1".
post #865 of 1090
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Yeah, you are in an ideal environment! Let me know how it turns out. Were you able to follow DNICE's procedure exactly? I fear I already screwed up by the mixed content and not running the slides on the same picture settings......grrrrrrrr.....

Looks great. I can see some of the detail I was looking for. Like skin tones, colors and blacks. Thanks d-nice. Nice to be able to calibrate set without spending more dollars. Next have to contact support to solve hockey flicker issue.
post #866 of 1090
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post

You might find this interesting:
http://allhighdef.com/2011/01/05/gen...-in-procedure/

Edit: if you want to use D-nice's settings, you would be going with "strategy 1".

Thanks Wayne! I feel really good now, because he recommended at the end that I do a combination of both, which is what I am doing.

I just hope that I can be close enough at the 150 hour mark to take advantage of D-Nice's settings.
post #867 of 1090
I purchased a new 55ST30 last week and realized last night that it is a July build and does not have the FBR fix applied. I contacted Panasonic and they are sending someone out Thursday to replace to bad part. I have to say I am fairly impressed with how quick they are taking care of this problem. My main concern though is I just finished running the 100 hr prep and I was wondering if the work they are going to do to the tv will mess this up. Will I need to run the prep again.

Thanks for any help.
post #868 of 1090
Ran the slides for 100 hours, loaded DNice settings and the picture is stunning. My source is direct TV.

My other TV is a 62 Sammy RP DLP which also has a tune from this forum and anyone who comes over and walks by either TV stops and just stares. I've sent at least a dozen people to this form to look for custom tunes and breakin rights.

Lastly, thank you DNice for all of your sharing.
post #869 of 1090
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Originally Posted by bamaboy2006 View Post

I purchased a new 55ST30 last week and realized last night that it is a July build and does not have the FBR fix applied. I contacted Panasonic and they are sending someone out Thursday to replace to bad part. I have to say I am fairly impressed with how quick they are taking care of this problem. My main concern though is I just finished running the 100 hr prep and I was wondering if the work they are going to do to the tv will mess this up. Will I need to run the prep again.

Thanks for any help.

I highly doubt it, as it is the panel that you were aging and it is a processor board that they are replacing or updating.
post #870 of 1090
Ok, I have read through many many posts and I just want to verify before I run the panel prep-slides on a 55ST30 I have coming this week:

1. Run the evangelou2's slides continuous for the first 100hrs.

2. Set Contrast at 100 (max) .... the reason I ask this is lots of threads mention keeping contrast low for the first few hundred hours.

3. Use D'Nice's reference settings and enjoy.

Is that about right?
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