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post #871 of 1083
3/13/12 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

Ok, I have read through many many posts and I just want to verify before I run the panel prep-slides on a 55ST30 I have coming this week:

1. Run the evangelou2's slides continuous for the first 100hrs.

2. Set Contrast at 100 (max) .... the reason I ask this is lots of threads mention keeping contrast low for the first few hundred hours.

3. Use D'Nice's reference settings and enjoy.

Is that about right?

Welcome to the forums! Your presumptions are correct. You do want to read the first post and set up the tv with those settings adjusted while in the slideshow mode. Each input saves it's own settings, photo viewer too, they're not global settings. Some folks get that wrong.
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post #872 of 1083
3/13/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

Welcome to the forums! Your presumptions are correct. You do want to read the first post and set up the tv with those settings adjusted while in the slideshow mode. Each input saves it's own settings, photo viewer too, they're not global settings. Some folks get that wrong.

Good advice Whipit^^^Exactly how I screwed up.
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post #873 of 1083
3/13/12 at 12:22pm
Thank you for the quick response and the warm welcome. Now I just need to wait for my TV to make it through the postal system. Then I get to check serial numebrs and build dates to see if it has the fixed fBr issue, and hope for no green/pink blobs.

Ignorance is truly bliss ....
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post #874 of 1083
3/13/12 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

Thank you for the quick response and the warm welcome. Now I just need to wait for my TV to make it through the postal system. Then I get to check serial numebrs and build dates to see if it has the fixed fBr issue, and hope for no green/pink blobs.

Ignorance is truly bliss ....

I wouldn't worry. The FBr issue is DRASTICALLY reduced on my ST30 (I have yet to see any), compared to my S30 (saw it frequently), so I am very happy. I don't think very many have experienced the green/pink blob issue, as neither my S30 or ST30 has them (or I am not sensitive enough to it.)

Don't go looking for anything. You will eventually see the color banding no matter what, and as D-Nice reports, it exists in all 2012 models as well. No big deal to me though.
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post #875 of 1083
3/13/12 at 2:58pm
Today's the day! My Amazon order finally arrived, my TC-P65GT30 has been taken out of the box, set up and have commenced the prep 100 hour slideshow - 4:30pm CST My wife thinks i'm crazy and my kids are already complaining about 'are we there yet?', but it will be worth the wait with this beauty.

I'm planning to just let it run contiuous the 100 hours - any watch-outs / warnings against doing that???

Thanks to D-Nice for the prep steps and settings! I can't wait to get it up and running

...to be continued
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post #876 of 1083
3/13/12 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by DiscoStus View Post

I'm planning to just let it run contiuous the 100 hours - any watch-outs / warnings against doing that???

I did that and asked the same question. No problem to let it run continuously.
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post #877 of 1083
3/13/12 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post

I did that and asked the same question. No problem to let it run continuously.

Thanks Wayne! I was hoping to just let it go so that my 100 hours would go by faster, but didn't want to do it at the risk of doing harm. Good things come to those who wait I guess (tell me it was worth it )

In other random news - a fun fact is that the TV this was replacing was an 8-9 year old Rear Projection Mitz, which gave many years of good service. That TV weighed 389 lbs, whereas this one is < 100 for the same 65" size. God Bless Technology!

Stu
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post #878 of 1083
3/13/12 at 3:22pm
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My wife thinks i'm crazy and my kids are already complaining about 'are we there yet?', but it will be worth the wait with this beauty.

I'm planning to just let it run contiuous the 100 hours - any watch-outs / warnings against doing that???

Nothing wrong with running the slides - we've done so on 5 panels now (3 still in house).

OTOH, if it helps Promote Peace in the house, would also see nothing wrong with enjoying a few Full Screen (16:9, No Letterboxing) shows / movies during the break-in period.

We have done just that with every panel thus far, and none of them have blown up... (Although I do extend the slides / full-screen animation out to about 150 hours - or more - before hauling out a "calibration" disk.)
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post #879 of 1083
3/13/12 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by Dierkdr View Post

OTOH, if it helps Promote Peace in the house, would also see nothing wrong with enjoying a few Full Screen (16:9, No Letterboxing) shows / movies during the break-in period.

Just be aware that if you plan on using Dnice's settings (and trying to get as close to his results as possible), then you should not watch other content during the slides.
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post #880 of 1083
3/13/12 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by DiscoStus View Post

Good things come to those who wait I guess (tell me it was worth it )

There's nothing wrong with running the slides (if you're into masochism LOL!). If you can't watch your TV during the break-in period to ensure that nothing is buggering it up (ie static images), then assuming that running the slides adds to the break-in hours, then it makes sense to run them (because they are safer) to speed up the process.

But, I personally wouldn't run them 100 hours continuously in the hope of using and sticking with D-nice's settings. I did so on my last set, and not only was that 100 hours a bit of torture, but my set was so different, or my tastes were so different, that Dnice's settings didn't work for me and I ended up using quite different settings (from the DIY thread), and the 100 hours of continuous slides was a bit of "torture for nothing".

On my new TV, I am just breaking it in by watching actual content, which is much more enjoyable (I work from home, so I'm able to keep it going and keep an eye on it). If my new TV was a Panny, I would break it in this way (maybe also running slides if that adds to the break-in hours), and then I would try out Dnice's settings, with the understanding that I would probably end up tweaking quite a bit from there (or again find other settings from the DIY thread).
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post #881 of 1083
3/14/12 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post

There's nothing wrong with running the slides (if you're into masochism LOL!). If you can't watch your TV during the break-in period to ensure that nothing is buggering it up (ie static images), then assuming that running the slides adds to the break-in hours, then it makes sense to run them (because they are safer) to speed up the process.

But, I personally wouldn't run them 100 hours continuously in the hope of using and sticking with D-nice's settings. I did so on my last set, and not only was that 100 hours a bit of torture, but my set was so different, or my tastes were so different, that Dnice's settings didn't work for me and I ended up using quite different settings (from the DIY thread), and the 100 hours of continuous slides was a bit of "torture for nothing".

On my new TV, I am just breaking it in by watching actual content, which is much more enjoyable (I work from home, so I'm able to keep it going and keep an eye on it). If my new TV was a Panny, I would break it in this way (maybe also running slides if that adds to the break-in hours), and then I would try out Dnice's settings, with the understanding that I would probably end up tweaking quite a bit from there (or again find other settings from the DIY thread).

I don't think that any of us really expect D-Nice's settings to work perfectly for us. There are far too many variables in our environment alone, nevermind any manufacturing variances. I am watching full screen content during the day time and slides at night. For those that are able to follow his instructions exactly, they will benefit from an excellent, professional calibration job by a pro for free. That is not to say that they won't want/need to make some minor tweaks to that.

I believe that using a calibration disk to tweak Cinema settings will get me to an excellent picture that I will be thrilled with. It is just nice to see what D-Nice's settings will look like to compare to.
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post #882 of 1083
3/14/12 at 11:35am
Can anyone explain step-by-step how to choose the THX mode for a slideshow, for a GT30 series model ? I could only select other modes (Normal, Cinema etc.) for Slideshow ; THX was only available for movies. The TV is from EU if it makes a difference.
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post #883 of 1083
3/14/12 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post


I don't think that any of us really expect D-Nice's settings to work perfectly for us. There are far too many variables in our environment alone, nevermind any manufacturing variances. I am watching full screen content during the day time and slides at night. For those that are able to follow his instructions exactly, they will benefit from an excellent, professional calibration job by a pro for free. That is not to say that they won't want/need to make some minor tweaks to that.

I believe that using a calibration disk to tweak Cinema settings will get me to an excellent picture that I will be thrilled with. It is just nice to see what D-Nice's settings will look like to compare to.

I can't argue with anything you said! :-)
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post #884 of 1083
3/14/12 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

Can anyone explain step-by-step how to choose the THX mode for a slideshow, for a GT30 series model ? I could only select other modes (Normal, Cinema etc.) for Slideshow ; THX was only available for movies. The TV is from EU if it makes a difference.



It is not available in that mode as you've found out.
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post #885 of 1083
3/14/12 at 3:52pm
Hey

We got a message on the answering machine from Panasonic saying they had important information about our TV....55" GT30. We've only had the set for two months so I'm curious as to what this is...warranty extension? Anyone else get a call?
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post #886 of 1083
3/14/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

Hey

We got a message on the answering machine from Panasonic saying they had important information about our TV....55" GT30. We've only had the set for two months so I'm curious as to what this is...warranty extension? Anyone else get a call?

That's exactly what the message sounded like when they were trying to sell me a warranty, lol. I bet it is.

Uggghhh, I have seen the dreaded pink/green blobs on my tv tonight.....my ps3 background just happened to be on the color grey, revealing my pink and green blobs visible. They are faint, and I don't see them when viewing any material, so i am not worried at this point. Funny thing is that it doesn't show up on any of the slides.....

Does anyone see these blobs when the tv is in "motion" ??
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post #887 of 1083
3/14/12 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Uggghhh, I have seen the dreaded pink/green blobs on my tv tonight.....my ps3 background just happened to be on the color grey, revealing my pink and green blobs visible. They are faint, and I don't see them when viewing any material, so i am not worried at this point. Funny thing is that it doesn't show up on any of the slides.....

Strange that you don't see it on any of the slides. Anyway, mine had a uniform green tint that showed up on slides, but the problem was that it really affected skin tones which I couldn't stand. So if you are not noticing it when viewing material, I personally would be happy. I replaced the Panasonic with a Samsung. There is a bit of a pink tinge going on with the Samsung which I can only see on white surfaces if I really look for it. Otherwise I don't notice it at all, and the PQ/colors seem great. I guess my "a TV should be perfect" mantra has been beaten out of me, and my new mantra is "if it's close to perfect, be happy!".

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Does anyone see these blobs when the tv is in "motion" ??

Not sure what you mean. I had posterisation issues with mine (contouring around moving hockey/soccer players), but that's a different thing.
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post #888 of 1083
3/14/12 at 5:14pm
I guess what I meant by "in motion" is during a movie or when the tv is displaying anything that is moving. The ps3 background where I see it is a graduated grey and there is nothing moving. Definitely doesn't show up in the slides which is strange. It is very faint, so I am not at all worried unless it gets worse or more pronounced.
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post #889 of 1083
3/14/12 at 6:50pm
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I guess what I meant by "in motion" is during a movie or when the tv is displaying anything that is moving. The ps3 background where I see it is a graduated grey and there is nothing moving. Definitely doesn't show up in the slides which is strange. It is very faint, so I am not at all worried unless it gets worse or more pronounced.

Depending upon your panel settings, the material you are viewing, AND your personal sensitivity to GREEN (and/or Pink/Magenta) you may or may not see the Green during "normal" programming.

IF your Actual Green Blob (as opposed to a Nice Uniform Green Tint) is bad enough, it will undoubtedly show up during SOME material.

The GOOD news is that on the 2 60" ST30s we've aged for over 400 hours, the Green BLOBs faded in both Area & Intensity (not disappeared, mind you, but Appreciably Improved).

The BAD news is that on the first such panel, the Pink/Magenta Tinting INCREASED substantially during the aging process, and we finally returned the panel (at somewhere between 650 - 700 hours) - but Primarily for the Pink.

Our current panel, with just over 450 hours, is also showing a significant decrease in the Green Blob (again, it is still present), but it is not yet clear what is going to happen with the Pink.

Still, even with the faded BLOBS, there remained (remains) a Green Tint on the panels that shows up in certain content - primarily, but not exclusively, in Shades of Gray.

(The two 60" panels we had in home between the two mentioned above had BOTH Severe Green Blobs AND Significant Pink Tinting, and we returned both "at once.")

One other SIGNIFICANT change, is that with the latest panel - a Nov Build - the Green Tint seems to be LESS visible on FACES than with the earlier sets. No idea whether that is due to set-to-set variation (luck of the draw), or something Panasonic may have done to later builds. In either event, NOT having GREEN FACES is a distinct improvement!

Good Luck with your panel!

(IF you WANT to "look for green" try: The French Landing near the end of the newest Robin Hood movie; the near-the-beginning Fog/Battle scene in "Master and Commander"; just about any B&W Movie with interior scenes; nearly any episode of HOUSE....)

Also: Some indication that the PINK tint MAY be attributed to uneven heat distribution across the panel. Received a call today from another owner who stated he measured the panel temp at various points, and the PINK portion - on HIS panel - was Distinctly Warmer than other points on the panel.
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post #890 of 1083
3/14/12 at 6:52pm
If THX is not available for Slideshow, what other picture mode is recommended for the break-in slides - Normal, (True)Cineme, Photo etc. ?
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post #891 of 1083
3/14/12 at 6:54pm
Hey all, newbie here. Just received my 65vt30 and believe it or not I read the entire thread. I have a real basic question that I should probably know the answer to... I wont be hanging the tv for a week still and I want to run the slides with the tv sitting in the base of the original box. Can I just plug the tv in and start running the slides without hdmi or anything else hooked up? Also I assume any of the usb ports will work? Sorry if I should have caught that somewhere already.

thanks
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post #892 of 1083
3/14/12 at 7:47pm
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Can I just plug the tv in and start running the slides without hdmi or anything else hooked up? Also I assume any of the usb ports will work? Sorry if I should have caught that somewhere already.
thanks

Yes and yes!
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post #893 of 1083
3/14/12 at 9:20pm
Well, 31 hours down and 69 to go...

While I'm waiting, i've determined it's a November 2011 build based on the sticker on the back. Hoping that bodes well. Also, I've completed reading every post in this thread (i've got time with no TV content to watch - self inflicted of course).

And my one follow up question which was: 'my slides are very much alike on my TV for some colors, but appear significantly different shades on PC is that a problem?' seems to have been answered by a couple of folks along the way. No worries there as it is due to display settings intensionally set for the 100 hour exercise. Have I ferreted out that information accurately, albeit not in a technical-speak savvy fashion?

Stu
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post #894 of 1083
3/14/12 at 10:32pm
My 65" came in from Amazon and to my great disappointment, the TV is damaged.

http://imgur.com/wVcZ2

Amazon is gonna replace it, but in the mean time, is there anything I can do to fix it? What is causing the color streaking?

Thanks!
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post #895 of 1083
3/14/12 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by Von Soundcard View Post

If THX is not available for Slideshow, what other picture mode is recommended for the break-in slides - Normal, (True)Cineme, Photo etc. ?

Read the first post in this thread again - it is very clear .....
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post #896 of 1083
3/15/12 at 5:23am
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Originally Posted by Dierkdr View Post

Depending upon your panel settings, the material you are viewing, AND your personal sensitivity to GREEN (and/or Pink/Magenta) you may or may not see the Green during "normal" programming.

IF your Actual Green Blob (as opposed to a Nice Uniform Green Tint) is bad enough, it will undoubtedly show up during SOME material.

The GOOD news is that on the 2 60" ST30s we've aged for over 400 hours, the Green BLOBs faded in both Area & Intensity (not disappeared, mind you, but Appreciably Improved).

The BAD news is that on the first such panel, the Pink/Magenta Tinting INCREASED substantially during the aging process, and we finally returned the panel (at somewhere between 650 - 700 hours) - but Primarily for the Pink.

Our current panel, with just over 450 hours, is also showing a significant decrease in the Green Blob (again, it is still present), but it is not yet clear what is going to happen with the Pink.

Still, even with the faded BLOBS, there remained (remains) a Green Tint on the panels that shows up in certain content - primarily, but not exclusively, in Shades of Gray.

(The two 60" panels we had in home between the two mentioned above had BOTH Severe Green Blobs AND Significant Pink Tinting, and we returned both "at once.")

One other SIGNIFICANT change, is that with the latest panel - a Nov Build - the Green Tint seems to be LESS visible on FACES than with the earlier sets. No idea whether that is due to set-to-set variation (luck of the draw), or something Panasonic may have done to later builds. In either event, NOT having GREEN FACES is a distinct improvement!

Good Luck with your panel!

(IF you WANT to "look for green" try: The French Landing near the end of the newest Robin Hood movie; the near-the-beginning Fog/Battle scene in "Master and Commander"; just about any B&W Movie with interior scenes; nearly any episode of HOUSE....)

Also: Some indication that the PINK tint MAY be attributed to uneven heat distribution across the panel. Received a call today from another owner who stated he measured the panel temp at various points, and the PINK portion - on HIS panel - was Distinctly Warmer than other points on the panel.

Thanks Dierkdr. What was strange, was after posting this, I watched 2 hours worth of full screen programming and then returned to the PS3 screen where I had seen the blobs. They were both gone.....very strange. Perhaps my eyes were too tired at that point to see them. Again, they were very faint. I love this set and will be keeping it unless the blobs were to get significantly worse. I wonder if running the slides actually promotes this behavior, as that is what I was doing prior to them showing up and then they were gone after the tv was "in motion."
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post #897 of 1083
3/15/12 at 7:32am
thanks, Wayne
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post #898 of 1083
3/15/12 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by GUERiLLAPUNK^MOB View Post

My 65" came in from Amazon and to my great disappointment, the TV is damaged.

http://imgur.com/wVcZ2

Amazon is gonna replace it, but in the mean time, is there anything I can do to fix it? What is causing the color streaking?

Thanks!



nope...nothing can be done unless you want to open her up and check the connections on the x,y & z buffer boards which that looks like it. Sometimes it's more transparent but solid like that....don't think so.
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post #899 of 1083
3/15/12 at 7:20pm
Got my TV today 55st30. It is an October 11 build, so no fBr issue, it is not buzzing, and it has no pink/green blobs ... at least after carefully inspecting in evangelou2's slides. I am running the slides with D'Nice's settings for 100 hrs.

My question is how common is a dead or stuck pixel? I think a sub pixel is bad. I have one pixel right in the center that shows up dark during the green slides, grey slides, and white slides but not during the red or blue slides. Is this common? Will I notice it during regular content viewing and if I have none of the other issues is it worth returning the TV over?
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post #900 of 1083
3/15/12 at 8:30pm
I have a 55ST30 October build as well and have not noticed any of the problematic issues others have noted, thus it is probably the only thing stopping me from returning it. The PQ is average at best. I own a Panasonic 46S1 and the PQ difference between it and my ST30 are very slight, and to be honest I don't know if I don't favor the S1 more. I guess to be fair with all the great reviews and the passing of 2 years I was expecting the ST30 to be significantly better than the S1.
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