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post #2401 of 3315
4/16/12 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by stumlad View Post

If you plan to watch 3D blu-rays, you're going to need a 1.4 receiver. For Side by Side or Top/Bottom content you won't (Cable/ or PC ).

As far as gaming, If it's side by side or top/bottom you're fine, but I'm pretty sure you'll need 1.4 to do 3D if it's frame packed.

I'd get a new receiver....


I have directv, do you know what kind of 3D they are using? I know they are not supposed to be as good as a blu-ray, as far as I know they use side by side but I recall reading somewhere that directv didn't work on recievers that didn't support
3D.

And what about my computer? I have a HTPC with a gtx nvidia card that works perfectly with 3D. Lets say I download a 3D side by side file. Will I be able to play this file with my HMZ?
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post #2402 of 3315
4/16/12 at 9:47pm
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Originally Posted by kuhne View Post

I have directv, do you know what kind of 3D they are using? I know they are not supposed to be as good as a blu-ray, as far as I know they use side by side but I recall reading somewhere that directv didn't work on recievers that didn't support 3D.

I think DirecTV uses side-by-side 3D. If you need to have the 3D video+audio signal go via HDMI from the DirecTV satellite receiver to the AVR, and then from the AVR on to the TV, naturally the AVR has to know how to process a 3D signal. However, you can send the 3D video signal directly from the DirecTV box to the 3D TV -- then the AVR doesn't have to process any 3D video, because it doesn't even see it. However, then you'll have to use the optical output from the DirecTV box to the AVR to get sound. The optical connection can carry Dolby 5.1 sound, which is the best you can get from the DirecTV box anyway, but this arrangement will not give you a way to play 7.1 sound from a blu-ray and 3D video, too, because the optical connection to the AVR cannot handle 7.1 sound.
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post #2403 of 3315
4/16/12 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by kuhne View Post

Crap, I feared that. Don't really Want to buy a new receiver just for the hmz so I guess I'll just connect it directly when I need to. Would it work through the receiver when I use directv?

I'm not 100 percent sure, but I think it should work because DirectTV is just doing side by side (or top/bottom).. They are simply sending a single image which is split in two, and this puts the work on the HMZ to take the picture and split it to each eye.
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post #2404 of 3315
4/17/12 at 11:26am
Thanks for your help guys. One thing I don't understand very well is how the whole nvidia vision is going to work with the HMZ. when you run the nvidia vision for the first time it asks you to configure your 3d glasses, I am stuck at that point as I don't use any,
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post #2405 of 3315
4/17/12 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by kuhne View Post

Thanks for your help guys. One thing I don't understand very well is how the whole nvidia vision is going to work with the HMZ. when you run the nvidia vision for the first time it asks you to configure your 3d glasses, I am stuck at that point as I don't use any,

Hy
You dont have nvidia 3d glasses but you have nvidia 3d vision? Strange...
Anyway,connect the 3d vision usb dongle to your pc, Connect the hmz to your pc,open The nvidia control panel and then select "setup stereoscopic 3d" and there you can see the 3dtvplay logo,everything will be fine ;-)
I think the process to configure the nvidia 3d glasses can be skipped. Hope i could help you with my english,cause i'm from germany..
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post #2406 of 3315
4/17/12 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by kuhne View Post

Thanks for your help guys. One thing I don't understand very well is how the whole nvidia vision is going to work with the HMZ. when you run the nvidia vision for the first time it asks you to configure your 3d glasses, I am stuck at that point as I don't use any,

The HMZ counts as glasses.. Just follow the setup.
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post #2407 of 3315
4/17/12 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by DaBruce View Post

Hy
You dont have nvidia 3d glasses but you have nvidia 3d vision? Strange...
Anyway,connect the 3d vision usb dongle to your pc, Connect the hmz to your pc,open The nvidia control panel and then select "setup stereoscopic 3d" and there you can see the 3dtvplay logo,everything will be fine ;-)
I think the process to configure the nvidia 3d glasses can be skipped. Hope i could help you with my english,cause i'm from germany..

For those (like me) who dont have an Nvidia 3D vision dongle from a previous setup, you can buy a 3DTV Play license from Nvidia. No physical accessories needed.
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post #2408 of 3315
4/17/12 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by DaBruce View Post

Hy
You dont have nvidia 3d glasses but you have nvidia 3d vision? Strange...
Anyway,connect the 3d vision usb dongle to your pc, Connect the hmz to your pc,open The nvidia control panel and then select "setup stereoscopic 3d" and there you can see the 3dtvplay logo,everything will be fine ;-)
I think the process to configure the nvidia 3d glasses can be skipped. Hope i could help you with my english,cause i'm from germany..


Yeah, thanks The thing is, I have a capable PC but I don't have any 3D display except for the HMZ (which is in the mail by the way, still dont have it) and you can purchase the 3dtv play software from nvidia. Which is what I did but that software, when you activate the 3d features, sends you to a 3d vision set up asking you to configure the glasses and gives you 4 options, wired glasses, wireless glasses, old type red and blue glasses and something else I forgot. I was trying all of this in my regular lcd tv because I dont have my HMZ yet, maybe when my computer recognizes the hmz the software will behave differently, who knows?

Thanks
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post #2409 of 3315
4/17/12 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by Glitchedbit View Post

For those (like me) who dont have an Nvidia 3D vision dongle from a previous setup, you can buy a 3DTV Play license from Nvidia. No physical accessories needed.

This is exactly what I did, my HMZ still hasnt arrived yet but i should have it in a week or so, so I read up online about the nvidia software supporting the HMZ with the latest update or something, so I bought it but I still cant test it out.

I also purchased the latest powerdvd software (12 i think) which is supposed to be great for playing 3Dblurays. the computer doesn't have a bluray drive, I would use a PS3 for that but I bought for those full iso 3D downloads... or backups, should I say? Not sure if saying things like that in here are illegal, I am sorry if it is.

my desktop does have a bluray drive but thats in another room completly. One workaround would be to burn those isos to a dual layer rewritable bluray disc and watch them on the ps3 but that sounds like a big pain in the ass, each time I want to see a movie I need to burn it. So the powerdvd idea sounded like the way to go for ISOS.
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post #2410 of 3315
4/17/12 at 9:56pm
When will we see version 2 (HMZ-T2) version that fixes the issues?

I'm looking for:

1) half the weight

2) half the size (so you don't have that idiot looking visor prong sticking 6 inches off your face)

Improved screen size perception (200" ?) and advanced motion tracking for more VR applications would not hurt either.

Oh - I am willing to pay $5,000.00 NOW for a set of glasses that is indistinguishable from thick sunglasses but performs like the HMZ-T1.

Anyone care to speculate why Sony and competitors do not offer a HIGH END of this product line? I'm ready to buy no matter the cost when they bring the quality.

Price is no object for VR-glasses that look like this:



But perform like this:



WHERE is the high end???

I know there are a lot of people just DROOLING to shell out $10k for the above described product tomorrow. Why is the 1080ST and HMZ-T1 marketed to the low end Wal-Mart?

If I will spend $2k on a receiver and $5k on projector - and many more people will spend up to say $30k on a projector and $10k on audio components -

Why is no one stepping up to bring the future to us NOW?

Where is the HIGH END FOR THIS PRODUCT LINE? Ironically, Google is the only one stepping in the right direction with the possibilities...
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post #2411 of 3315
4/17/12 at 10:10pm
I hear ya, to be honest sony is one of the few companies that have tried to push the envelope with technology in the past, they have been doing it for way longer than google and apple, the thing is, they miss the mark a lot, even when they get it right, it's usualy either too "out there" for people or just not the right time. A good example is the mini disc. Better than the cd in every possible way, it didn't skip, you could store mp3's there easily, the stereos kicked ass but sony released it in a time where the world was on its way to digital music.

What you say about the glasses would be awesome... just awesome, wish something like that came out but I doubt it, we'll be having mainstream 3d tv's without the need of glasses first before something that kick ass happens.
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post #2412 of 3315
4/18/12 at 12:57am
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Originally Posted by kuhne View Post

Yeah, thanks The thing is, I have a capable PC but I don't have any 3D display except for the HMZ (which is in the mail by the way, still dont have it) and you can purchase the 3dtv play software from nvidia. Which is what I did but that software, when you activate the 3d features, sends you to a 3d vision set up asking you to configure the glasses and gives you 4 options, wired glasses, wireless glasses, old type red and blue glasses and something else I forgot. I was trying all of this in my regular lcd tv because I dont have my HMZ yet, maybe when my computer recognizes the hmz the software will behave differently, who knows?

Thanks

Your PC recognizes the HMZ as a 3DTV, which changes the 3D vision setup accordingly =) You simply have to wait until you get your HMZ ^^
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post #2413 of 3315
4/18/12 at 1:30am
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Originally Posted by krinkle View Post

When will we see version 2 (HMZ-T2) version that fixes

Oh - I am willing to pay $5,000.00 NOW for a set of glasses that is indistinguishable from thick sunglasses but performs like the HMZ-T1.



Why is no one stepping up to bring the future to us NOW?

Where is the HIGH END FOR THIS PRODUCT LINE? Ironically, Google is the only one stepping in the right direction with the possibilities...


c'mon - get real! it would cost you your arm and leg. You can buy it right now.
don't look at the price if you have heart problem!

http://www.vrealities.com/hmd.html...
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post #2414 of 3315
4/18/12 at 2:15am
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Originally Posted by borland View Post

c'mon - get real! it would cost you your arm and leg. You can buy it right now.
don't look at the price if you have heart problem!

http://www.vrealities.com/hmd.html...

All of those are outdated and none are even close to the HMZ...

http://www.vrealities.com/hi-res800.html - Just look at this one for example. Heavy, ugly, "providing the user with an high quality image (800x600 SVGA) at an affordable price." - low res and silly price..($3095)
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post #2415 of 3315
4/18/12 at 2:25am
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Originally Posted by Glitchedbit View Post

All of those are outdated and none are even close to the HMZ...

http://www.vrealities.com/hi-res800.html - Just look at this one for example. Heavy, ugly, "providing the user with an high quality image (800x600 SVGA) at an affordable price." - low res and silly price..($3095)

All of them??? What about this one
http://www.vrealities.com/pisight.html
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post #2416 of 3315
4/18/12 at 4:05am
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Originally Posted by borland View Post

All of them??? What about this one
http://www.vrealities.com/pisight.html

Also heavy, also ugly, and it also has a low resolution (800x600). Only difference is, it has several displays mounted together to provide larger FOV and "higher" resolution (much like the nvidia 3D surround) but that hardly more hi-tech than an HMZ in my opinion.

or do you mean to tell me its conventional and hi-tech to have, "Twelve computers each with dual-output VGA"?
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post #2417 of 3315
4/18/12 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by Glitchedbit View Post

Also heavy, also ugly, and it also has a low resolution (800x600). Only difference is, it has several displays mounted together to provide larger FOV and "higher" resolution (much like the nvidia 3D surround) but that hardly more hi-tech than an HMZ in my opinion.

or do you mean to tell me its conventional and hi-tech to have, "Twelve computers each with dual-output VGA"?

Try this one. Good specs if you don't mind the appearance. And only 40k.
http://sensics.com/products/head-mou...anoramic-hmds/
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post #2418 of 3315
4/18/12 at 9:04am
Ok I need you to help me out, I have a friend in facebook who's not really a friend and I rarely talk to but for years she had that picture of the girl with the glasses as her profile pic and I allways thought it was her, now you post the same pic here and my mind kind of broke down.

Where did you get that pic and is my friend in facebook really a 40 year old man?






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Originally Posted by krinkle View Post

When will we see version 2 (HMZ-T2) version that fixes the issues?

I'm looking for:

1) half the weight

2) half the size (so you don't have that idiot looking visor prong sticking 6 inches off your face)

Improved screen size perception (200" ?) and advanced motion tracking for more VR applications would not hurt either.

Oh - I am willing to pay $5,000.00 NOW for a set of glasses that is indistinguishable from thick sunglasses but performs like the HMZ-T1.

Anyone care to speculate why Sony and competitors do not offer a HIGH END of this product line? I'm ready to buy no matter the cost when they bring the quality.

Price is no object for VR-glasses that look like this:



But perform like this:



WHERE is the high end???

I know there are a lot of people just DROOLING to shell out $10k for the above described product tomorrow. Why is the 1080ST and HMZ-T1 marketed to the low end Wal-Mart?

If I will spend $2k on a receiver and $5k on projector - and many more people will spend up to say $30k on a projector and $10k on audio components -

Why is no one stepping up to bring the future to us NOW?

Where is the HIGH END FOR THIS PRODUCT LINE? Ironically, Google is the only one stepping in the right direction with the possibilities...
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post #2419 of 3315
4/18/12 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by Glitchedbit View Post

Your PC recognizes the HMZ as a 3DTV, which changes the 3D vision setup accordingly =) You simply have to wait until you get your HMZ ^^


Excelent, just what I needed to hear I really cant wait.
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post #2420 of 3315
4/18/12 at 11:36am
Still no available locally in my country here in Europe, and still sold out all the places i checked.
Utterly amazing. I'm leaning towards just waiting for a HMZ-T2 and just pre-order it blindly.
It's just mind boggling how they can't produce enough, or just are holding out for some odd reason.
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post #2421 of 3315
4/18/12 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by dvdmonster View Post

Still no available locally in my country here in Europe, and still sold out all the places i checked.
Utterly amazing. I'm leaning towards just waiting for a HMZ-T2 and just pre-order it blindly.
It's just mind boggling how they can't produce enough, or just are holding out for some odd reason.

Do you really think Sony will come up with a new version when the current one is sold out and they can't satisfy the demand? Why they should spend millions on rd and changing production process??? Just do some search on Sony glasstron and have a look at the production gap between glasstron and Hmz
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post #2422 of 3315
4/18/12 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by dvdmonster View Post

Still no available locally in my country here in Europe, and still sold out all the places i checked.
Utterly amazing. I'm leaning towards just waiting for a HMZ-T2 and just pre-order it blindly.
It's just mind boggling how they can't produce enough, or just are holding out for some odd reason.

amazon, ebay, etc. arent an option?
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post #2423 of 3315
4/18/12 at 8:38pm
Hi everyone...

Using my HMZ T1 for the first time yesterday.
The best 3D I ever seen, so bright, natural... WOW!

But there is one problem, how to remove forehead pad? ^^
Could someone help me, maybe using illustration / pic?

Thx before - Nobi
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post #2424 of 3315
4/19/12 at 10:58am
Just pull it, it won't break, don't worry!
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post #2425 of 3315
4/19/12 at 4:39pm
I'm really curious what my Metro 2033 3D screenshots look like on the HMZ. I normally use a 46" 3DTV viewing just under a meter away. I noticed the HMZ has a slightly smaller, but similar field of view. However the optics on the HMZ have a fairly powerful effect if i remember correctly. If you have Nvidia software and care to look I'd be interested in knowing how the world looks at these settings on the HMZ, which for me are realistic looking.

http://www.mediafire.com/#uzyynnngqqqzu
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post #2426 of 3315
4/19/12 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by uanemabell View Post

Just pull it, it won't break, don't worry!

@uanemabell:



Pulling it up and away (red) or diagonally (blue)?

Regards - Nobi
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post #2427 of 3315
4/19/12 at 7:04pm
Blue
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post #2428 of 3315
4/19/12 at 7:24pm
The pad, or the whole section? The pad just peels off. The one i demo'd did anyway.
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post #2429 of 3315
4/19/12 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by tory40 View Post

The pad, or the whole section? The pad just peels off. The one i demo'd did anyway.

The whole section

@3dnyc: Ok, I'll try it later, thanks
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post #2430 of 3315
4/19/12 at 8:26pm
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