or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › 3D Central › 3D Displays › Sony HMZ-T1 HMD Owner's dedicated thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Sony HMZ-T1 HMD Owner's dedicated thread - Page 99

post #2941 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dfan View Post

The only thing I didn't like is the pixels are very visible unlike other reviews said and it can get some time to get used to.

Can't remember it being hard for me to get used to. The micro-pixels have only been visible at times and only as a group in some patterns which can look like rough-texture; most of the time camouflaged by ever-evolving patterns that render configurations of image clarity. IMO, the displays produce a seemingly perfect 720P image with reference quality renditions of contrast, color, and an image clarity that only comes from superior quality OLED chips and is appreciated all the more after finally being able to compare it with the LCoS displays of the ST1080.

Paul
Edited by Paul H - 7/2/12 at 9:03am
post #2942 of 3364
Hi,

Apologise if this has been answered before but cannot find a real answer anywhere?

Regarding the HMZ-T1's input lag (apparently measured at around 50ms - 90ms or so), does the input lag reduce if the signal passed to the HMZ-T1 is a native 2D 720p signal e.g. less processing required by the HMZ unit?

Any idea what the input lag maybe in the above mode? I will be using this for 95% FPS gaming, so lag is somewhat an important factor biggrin.gif

Thanks,
post #2943 of 3364
The pixels are visible if you are staring at a menu screen trying to find them (as they are on pretty much all monitors or projectors) but once you play a movie or a game, all that disappears as your eye's are constantly moving, especially with 3D content.

I've got a 1080p television downstairs and, while incredibly crisp with pretty much no visible pixels, the HMZ is a completely different experience in terms of brightness, colour, contrast and lack of cross talk... You have to actually use it to understand though...
Edited by sonicoliver - 7/3/12 at 1:14am
post #2944 of 3364
Whoa Andy - that is *awesome* !!! smile.gif
post #2945 of 3364
You may be right....

But for me I noticed the clear pixel grid the very first time without even opening the menu. The screen door effect was very distracting and was visible in all scenes with no exception. It feels like IPAD2 when I was hoping to see IPAD3 resolution smile.gif

On a separate topic, does it give popouts as good as a real 3DTV ?
post #2946 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by falafala View Post

You may be right....
But for me I noticed the clear pixel grid the very first time without even opening the menu. The screen door effect was very distracting and was visible in all scenes with no exception. It feels like IPAD2 when I was hoping to see IPAD3 resolution smile.gif
Do you own one or did your distraction come from just trying one?
Quote:
Originally Posted by falafala View Post

On a separate topic, does it give popouts as good as a real 3DTV ?
Viewing 3D images Inside an HMD isolates the screens from all external objects that would be needed for the brain to determine pop-out illusions, the intensity relative to external references. i.e. For good "popouts" the eyes need to view more than the images.

Paul
Edited by Paul H - 7/3/12 at 11:26am
post #2947 of 3364
Here are some draft screenshots of the 3D-printable shell I have been working on. There is still a lot of work left to do (make sure internals will fit, eye cups, eye relief, wiring, headphone jacks etc). I am going to print it tonight, iterate tomorrow, print again, iterate again, until it is serviceable.

447

308
post #2948 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Furlan View Post

Here are some draft screenshots of the 3D-printable shell I have been working on. There is still a lot of work left to do (make sure internals will fit, eye cups, eye relief, wiring, headphone jacks etc). I am going to print it tonight, iterate tomorrow, print again, iterate again, until it is serviceable.
447
308

Thats simple and awesome, why Sony made it to look the way it is? Marketing probably

This square design is the best, allows for wide straps and no stupid emulated headphones.

Do you have any estimations how much it will cost to print one of these? The other guy said his cost 250EUR (315USD) and way to expensive, costs like half of another new set
post #2949 of 3364
Well, it costs that much cause you have to think so damn much about everything. ;-)

Every 'function' needs to be shaped with material:
- having a fixed position of the optics within the case
- having some adjustment option (the optics side movement, readjust the complete case in front of your forehead etc.)
- assemble the top and bottom case part
- proper use of the main switch (the one that is pushed when you wear the HMZ in its original case)

I'll use it as Virtual Reality device. So body/head motions are present. To keep the case in its position - otherwise you'll loose focus/sharpness - kind of 'extended' mounting device.


Also, 3D-print is not that cheap at all. Though it's the cheapest of all the work (most effort lies in the design phase) at Shapeways one gramm of material (black) costs $1.70. It looks a little better if you stick to white, then you only pay $1.40 per gramm.

Maybe when the first prototype arrives I'll redo the wall thickness. Currently for main top/bottom part it's 2mm, rest is 1.5mm.


btw, thanks for the compliment, Rod ;-)
post #2950 of 3364
Looks good that design smile.gif Getting the weight down is the key, but u should think of adding a top strap mount aswell cool.gif maybe just a slot if u need a exstra one for

The biggest challenge tho is 2 align up n down on the hmz1 lenses, just slightly of the angel the screens go blurry. Think that sweet spot may be induvidual from person 2 person aswell.

So what i did when modding my was tilting it slightly n testing it with the same movie to get it as close as possible to blurr free, then securing it into place

The nose part cant be to tall or it may conflict with the 2 lenses as they move preety close together just a tip.
post #2951 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

Thats simple and awesome, why Sony made it to look the way it is? Marketing probably
This square design is the best, allows for wide straps and no stupid emulated headphones.
Do you have any estimations how much it will cost to print one of these? The other guy said his cost 250EUR (315USD) and way to expensive, costs like half of another new set

I got a preliminary quote in the $60-$70 range which isn't too bad. If you know someone who owns a printer, they could print it for you at a negligible cost. Good 3D printers are expensive machines and printing time is worth much more than the cost of the materials. Once the design is final, we could all pool together for a large order in order to drive costs down a bit cool.gif
post #2952 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by IBlackMambaI View Post

Also, 3D-print is not that cheap at all. Though it's the cheapest of all the work (most effort lies in the design phase) at Shapeways one gramm of material (black) costs $1.70. It looks a little better if you stick to white, then you only pay $1.40 per gramm.

Their prices are per solid cubic centimeter, not grams wink.gif
post #2953 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Furlan View Post

Their prices are per solid cubic centimeter, not grams wink.gif

great job pal - you seem to be set on bringing hope to those who own HMZ and are desperate to get the HMZ perfected !smile.gif
post #2954 of 3364
hmzt1 is a virtualboy. hell no .... but if you want ?

Hi, im new to this site!

I also own a hmz-t1 and im here just to remind you (hm1-t1 Owner's ) that you can experience or reenjoy the virtualboy in full immersion 720p
so better than the original

just by using Mednafen (emulator) , but don't go crazy and burn thoses oled screen just for a virtualboy emulation. lol

I use Mednafen+ Mednafen gui .
i chose side by side
i chose resolution 1280x720
i chose full screen , aspect ration max

by default mednafen when set to side by side will display the graphics in black in white instead of red and black but if you want you can edit the cfg file and change the default color value. so now mine is red in black side by side 720p perfect match for the hmzt1.

dont blame me if you lost you eyes lol
no really i did play alot of virtualboy (teleroboxer, red alarm) and my eyes are still ok


Only 3 game was good mario clash , teleroboxer and red alarm imo. ..................mario tennis



have fun
evidee
post #2955 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Furlan View Post

Their prices are per solid cubic centimeter, not grams wink.gif

I know. But in terms of "costs per comfort" for the case I got used to calculate in gramms. wink.gif

1cm³ of polyamide = ~1 gramm
Edited by IBlackMambaI - 7/5/12 at 1:04am
post #2956 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by IBlackMambaI View Post

I know. But in terms of "costs per comfort" for the case I got used to calculate in gramms. wink.gif
1cm³ of polyamide = ~1 gramm

TIL smile.gif
post #2957 of 3364
+1 , in queue for preorder @ Rod Furlan project.
post #2958 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Furlan View Post

I got a preliminary quote in the $60-$70 range which isn't too bad. If you know someone who owns a printer, they could print it for you at a negligible cost. Good 3D printers are expensive machines and printing time is worth much more than the cost of the materials. Once the design is final, we could all pool together for a large order in order to drive costs down a bit cool.gif

Awesome, whats so special about other project that it costs so much?
post #2959 of 3364
Hi, I just bought the HMZ-T1 yesterday and I have not had time to read anything here, but I am not as impressed by the sound as by the picture.

Is there some way to get the sound out of the HDMI output to a ordinary 3.5 mm headphone jack at the same time as using the HMZ headset?

Thanks
post #2960 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

Alrighty, just took some fast pictures with my iPhone.





The top strap cushion fits around the forehead piece and then connects in the back to the hard plastic strap. It is adjustable so you can change its size. It is double padded for maximum comfort on the head.




The other 2 pads slide over the original straps easily. These are double padded to provide comfort.




Here you can see the top cushion closer, it adjust sizes by removing the flap shown which is held on with velcro. You simply move it back or forward for an easy adjustment to fit. This also gets rid of pressure on the nose and because it is well cushioned feels very comfortable during use.


I am debating on rather making another cushion strap which goes across from side to side as well. But honestly, I don't feel it is really needed. With these double cushioned pads and new head strap it feels great and gets rid of pressure upon the nose and forehead as well. I been using it this way for hours now with NO pain. I also was able to set it so I get no blurry sides.


My wife used all black fabric on mine with black thread. But to make it look even cooler for customers we can use other colors and colored thread. For instance the head strap in the middle, we can make the side thread white to match the unit. So the cushion is black with white threading on the sides just for example. Any color fabric is pretty much possible and same with thread. I saw some nice white fabric that may look good. I also am thinking of adding red stitching thread to mine.


Can you buy this thing somewhere?

Thanks!
post #2961 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindskog View Post

Hi, I just bought the HMZ-T1 yesterday and I have not had time to read anything here, but I am not as impressed by the sound as by the picture.
Is there some way to get the sound out of the HDMI output to a ordinary 3.5 mm headphone jack at the same time as using the HMZ headset?
Thanks
you can use 3.5 mm headphones while on the computer.. just set default audio output to your sound card and not hdmi.

i'd suggest playing with hmz-t1 for a week or two, the sound quality will improve a lot.
post #2962 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by kixpress View Post

you can use 3.5 mm headphones while on the computer.. just set default audio output to your sound card and not hdmi.
i'd suggest playing with hmz-t1 for a week or two, the sound quality will improve a lot.

On the PS3 you can also choose the sound between hdmi or optic, it works great with the creative recon3d omega wireless headset.
post #2963 of 3364
post #2964 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDrWatson View Post

On the PS3 you can also choose the sound between hdmi or optic, it works great with the creative recon3d omega wireless headset.

Or composite, and then run the RCA to headphones... so many options, except the one I want: minijack IN on the HMZ control box smile.gif
post #2965 of 3364
Yep, www.blazin3d.com is my site
post #2966 of 3364
I have ordered... Please do hurry up, my nose hurts ;-)
post #2967 of 3364
Might take some time as we have so many orders but wife and I are working on them daily now:)
post #2968 of 3364
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

Awesome, whats so special about other project that it costs so much?

Hmmm, always having a sharp image ;-)

Nah, like I said, this is the first print. As soon as it has arrived maybe I'll modify the case again.
Also, the costs already include tax (= 19% VAT) and shipping.
post #2969 of 3364
just make it perfect, i'll buy it biggrin.gif
post #2970 of 3364
I am really having a hard time deciding what HMD to go to - HMZ or st1080 (any comments would be appreciated)! I was a previous owner of the Sony, therefore I totally understand what is required to mod it for comfort (I ended up with the welders mod). I had sold the Sony to replace it with the ST1080 (and the fact that I made a profit on the Sony due to demand). I am on the fence, off the fence with the ST1080 due to the issues with the tech, however the portability and 1080p is what is really pushing me! On the other hand, the Sony has an outstanding picture (once fitted correctly) however only 720p. I have a chance to grab a slightly used Sony and remod it again at a fairly good price.... hmmmmm what to do lol!

On a side note, I am patiently waiting the Oculus kickstarter kit for a full immersive HMD - what should my everyday and movies HMD be - st or HMZ???
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: 3D Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › 3D Central › 3D Displays › Sony HMZ-T1 HMD Owner's dedicated thread