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post #3061 of 3370
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Originally Posted by johnsmith808 View Post

I removed the headphones and the sides that wrap by your ear. Just mounted the hmz to a baseball cap, hanging by the lid. The headphones that it comes with are absolute garbage and distort badly.
Use the HMZ-T1 daily and have never noticed any kind of distortion from the headphones. IMO, good quality for the HMD, and very convenient considereing the price. No setup hassle required, which is necessary when using the ST1080's. For reference quality sound, I'll choose to use the system in my dedicated theater room.

Paul
post #3062 of 3370
I am wondering if there is any kinda battery pack that would allow me to run the HMZ off of it?

Since I shoot much 3D videos, I need something I can use in real time to view the video I am taking. The ST1080 was portable but way to crappy and horrible picture quality. The HMZ is perfect though not ideal to carry around but I can manage it.

I need something plug and go.. A battery I can just plug the HMZ into and use it a few hours just as I would by plugging it into the wall socket... Not something where I have to take things apart to make it work. Is there anything like that? Not so large that I can't carry it though.

My goal is to use the HMZ outside as I film 3D video with my light blocker so I can get perfect quality in real time. My 3D cam has a glasses free screen, but it's not always perfect and the suns relfection makes it worse. Even using a cover it don't look that great.
post #3063 of 3370
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Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

I am wondering if there is any kinda battery pack that would allow me to run the HMZ off of it?
Since I shoot much 3D videos, I need something I can use in real time to view the video I am taking. The ST1080 was portable but way to crappy and horrible picture quality. The HMZ is perfect though not ideal to carry around but I can manage it.
I need something plug and go.. A battery I can just plug the HMZ into and use it a few hours just as I would by plugging it into the wall socket... Not something where I have to take things apart to make it work. Is there anything like that? Not so large that I can't carry it though.
My goal is to use the HMZ outside as I film 3D video with my light blocker so I can get perfect quality in real time. My 3D cam has a glasses free screen, but it's not always perfect and the suns relfection makes it worse. Even using a cover it don't look that great.

Any battery solution is going to be weighty and bulky. To run the unit (not including whatever source you're using) for any reasonable length of time is going to be backpack sized and have considerable weight. Until the new advances in battery manufacturing technologies become mainstream, it's not a particuarly practical solution.
What would be more practical is to have a car inverter that you could use to power it. At least that way you're still semi-mobile but without the limitations of remaining truely mobile.
post #3064 of 3370
Yea, checking around on net I found a few. They weigh much, 24 pounds up to 54 pounds or even more.

I could throw it in a small suitcase and wheel it around, would be much trouble but viewing what I shoot in 3D on the HMZ would be a bonus so I can adjust things on the fly and make sure I get a nice picture.
post #3065 of 3370
Just reading some of the ifa news about the HMZ-T2, looks pretty similar, slightly improved ergonomics and possibly better optics. Still looks to be 720P panels though. Earbuds instead of headphones looks the biggest change.
post #3066 of 3370
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Originally Posted by meva View Post

Just reading some of the ifa news about the HMZ-T2, looks pretty similar, slightly improved ergonomics and possibly better optics. Still looks to be 720P panels though. Earbuds instead of headphones looks the biggest change.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/sony-quietly-drops-new-hmz-t2-personal-3d-viewer-at-ifa/

20% lighter and some changes. Sounds good. But not good enough.
post #3067 of 3370
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Originally Posted by alex76 View Post

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/sony-quietly-drops-new-hmz-t2-personal-3d-viewer-at-ifa/
20% lighter and some changes. Sounds good. But not good enough.

Yep. Thanks but I'll stick with my originals. Even more happy with them after the add-ons from Blazin3D - thanks Bravia3D!
post #3068 of 3370
I've decided to postpone my purchase until more became clear of a successor on the IFA, and at this moment I cannot find any definitive resolution information other than phrases like "Sharper display" and "Immersive Full HD 2D and 3D" in the press release, which does suggest a bump to 1080p.
If so, it will be instant pre-order material for me with the lighter design as a nice bonus... it would probably outright beat the ST1080 in image quality anyway with the OLED panels.
post #3069 of 3370
I found a french blog that says its only 720P with better lens, so its a smaller refresh.

if its going to be full HD ill sell my HMXZ-t1 which i never used yet, just got it last week and im SOOOO disappointed, even if the new model wont be full HD its disappointing to get so expensive device and only a week later they announce a new one.
The best part is they no longer using big ugly headphones so now you can use your own..

http://www.pcinpact.com/news/73408-ifa-2012-hmz-t2-sony-renouvelle-son-visiocasque-3d-720p.htm















The old model for comparison:
post #3070 of 3370
Hi Bravia3D!

I will take a 14 hours plane next December and I want to take my HMZ with me, so I was digging in a little bit and I found this guy that made a gaming setup for his HMZ. https://sites.google.com/site/vrsetup/Hardware-Requirement/hardware-set
I already bought the Energizer battery and the Belkin adaptor. I guess you can give it a try too! BTW I am also thinking to buy the pitch black and forehead pad but I guess the people will be totally scared if I wear it on the airplane :S lol

Cheers
post #3071 of 3370
There are 2 IPD sliders now, I wonder if they've just made each eye independent or if one controls depth.
post #3072 of 3370
I just made a dedicated HMZ-t2 thread so if anyone has some info to add please let me know

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1426822/sony-hmz-t2-personal-3d-viewer-hmd-dedicated-thread
post #3073 of 3370
Very welcome cloaked!

And thanks Doctor for the link, I am looking into numerous battery packs. I found one that is small and solar that may work but quite expensive.
post #3074 of 3370
Please Sony T1 owners - update on this for features below - are these 'NEW' features added to T2 or these existed on T1 ? please !
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3) "Clear mode to reduce motion-blur - If you’re a gamer, you’ll love the clear mode setting, optimises and enhances lost frames for great clarity of high-speed action"

4) "24p True Cinema for an authentic experience - With the 24p True Cinema feature you can watch films at 24 frames per second – the authentic frame rate for big screen movies"

5) "Enjoy long hours of play with less eye fatigue - Auto Colour Temperature adjustment gradually lowers image tone intensity from blue to red hues for hours of smooth viewing
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please HMZ-T1 owners reply - am really so curious
post #3075 of 3370
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5) "Enjoy long hours of play with less eye fatigue - Auto Colour Temperature adjustment gradually lowers image tone intensity from blue to red hues for hours of smooth viewing

Can anyone point me to an URL which backs Sony's claim for a need for this, based on science? Or are they simply making stuff up as they go along?

Hmm, I wonder if it went down a little like this:

Sony marketer A, "Hey B, what did the survey show were the top complaints of HMZT1 owners?"

Sony marketer B, "Besides visible pixel structure and motion judder, the top complaint is physical fatigue and eye strain when using it for anything long, like a movie."

Sony marketer A, "Well, since there's no real way to address that without a complete redesign costing millions in R&D, lets 'fix it' on T2 with a strawman solution. Ideas?"

Sony marketer B, "Having some sort of an 'Auto Color Correction Gizmo' has always sold well over the years. Why not now?"

Sony marketer A, "Sounds good to me; make it so! Be sure you mention 'For hours of smooth, happy viewing' in the bullet point."
Edited by m. zillch - 8/30/12 at 8:43am
post #3076 of 3370
I've always found the best feature of an auto color correction system to be an off switch.
post #3077 of 3370
Sony always does this...
post #3078 of 3370
Yeah, the news of the HMZ-T2 hit me in a positive and negative way, yeah, I am pissed that they now release another one but at the same time I am happy because the new one doesn't seem to be much better so I wont be changing it. The only thing that would piss me off would be if it were 1080p but honestly, I don't see the need for 1080p. I saw the Avengers 3D bluray a few days ago on my HMZ-T1 and it was so good... better than the theater experience in 3D, in fact, I thought the 3D was pretty mediocre when I saw this movie in the cinema but on the HMZ-T1 It was so good, I noticed things I didn't notice in the theaters and I saw it twice at the theaters (one in 3D, one 2D) so yeah, 1080p would be good to have but definetly not that big of a deal.

I'll just wait for the HMZ-T3 I guess.
post #3079 of 3370
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Originally Posted by kuhne View Post

Yeah, the news of the HMZ-T2 hit me in a positive and negative way, yeah, I am pissed that they now release another one but at the same time I am happy because the new one doesn't seem to be much better so I wont be changing it. The only thing that would piss me off would be if it were 1080p but honestly, I don't see the need for 1080p. I saw the Avengers 3D bluray a few days ago on my HMZ-T1 and it was so good... better than the theater experience in 3D, in fact, I thought the 3D was pretty mediocre when I saw this movie in the cinema but on the HMZ-T1 It was so good, I noticed things I didn't notice in the theaters and I saw it twice at the theaters (one in 3D, one 2D) so yeah, 1080p would be good to have but definetly not that big of a deal.
I'll just wait for the HMZ-T3 I guess.

1080p - T3 forget it - Sony does not manufacture 1080p oleds and ps3 does not output 1080p hdmi 1.4 frame packed and if they were to outsource it then it'd be cost prohibitive for sure......................mad.gif
post #3080 of 3370
Just checking if anyone is interested I am selling a new HMZ-T1 in the trading forum here http://www.avsforum.com/t/1427088/sony-personal-3d-viewer-hmz-t1.

Thanks
post #3081 of 3370
They don't make (microdisplay) 1080p OLED, currently, but that's bound to change within a few years.
post #3082 of 3370
I'd say 1080p will come around the same time as the PS4... PS4 will certainly have the horse power to drive it, and the HMZ series could actually be seen as an indicator to the direction sony is heading...
post #3083 of 3370
Someone asked about how to remove the headphones. You just need small Phillips head screw drivers. It all cones apart rather cleanly. Go to youtube and search for a video on how to take this apart. It was very helpful.

Imo the included headphones are far below the quality if the image this thing puts out. Until you've watched the hmz with either good headphones with simulated surround sound or used actual speakers, you haven't SEEN the level of immersion this thing is capable of.
post #3084 of 3370
Selling my sony hmz-1project had a buyer earlyer that wanted it but skimped out... Se the new hmz-2 is comming to bad its still just 720p but its lighter and now the lenses are seperatly adjusteble left n right (sony must read our gear removal lol) The front head pad is wider and can now be adjusted up n down (not bad for more easy focus). Dont think im getting the new one for the 720p is a lill to low on 72" the hmz-1 gives:cool:
post #3085 of 3370
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Originally Posted by Doctor Tocino View Post

Hi Bravia3D!
I will take a 14 hours plane next December and I want to take my HMZ with me, so I was digging in a little bit and I found this guy that made a gaming setup for his HMZ. https://sites.google.com/site/vrsetup/Hardware-Requirement/hardware-set
I already bought the Energizer battery and the Belkin adaptor. I guess you can give it a try too! BTW I am also thinking to buy the pitch black and forehead pad but I guess the people will be totally scared if I wear it on the airplane :S lol
Cheers

Hi, that setup is actually outdated. The new setup is easier and lighter for travelling as I no longer use the inverter. Just take out the AC transformer and drop in a DC-DC dropdown regulator. Check this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1371946/sony-hmz-t1-hmd-owners-dedicated-thread/3000#post_22288200
post #3086 of 3370
Sorry if this has already been mention in the thread (too much to read the whole thing) but is it possible to use the headset and TV display at the same time? I have my unit and it seems I can only choose either one but not both, it would be nice if I can use the headset while my friend is using the TV to play games.
post #3087 of 3370
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Originally Posted by ctnguye3 View Post

Sorry if this has already been mention in the thread (too much to read the whole thing) but is it possible to use the headset and TV display at the same time? I have my unit and it seems I can only choose either one but not both, it would be nice if I can use the headset while my friend is using the TV to play games.

I dont understand the question, do you want to connect both to same device and see different pictures? Like playing 2 different games?

The HMZ has pass-through mode, you can connect your xbox (for example) to HMZ and the HMZ to your TV
and then both will show the same picture.
post #3088 of 3370
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Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

I dont understand the question, do you want to connect both to same device and see different pictures? Like playing 2 different games?
The HMZ has pass-through mode, you can connect your xbox (for example) to HMZ and the HMZ to your TV
and then both will show the same picture.

Yes I'm talking about the pass-through mode, I have the same set up as what you describe in your example except I'm using a PS3, but for some reason, if I turn the headset on, I can't view it on my TV, however if I turn the headset off, it automatically displays on my TV. Would it be possible to have the same source display in both the TV and headset at the same time?
post #3089 of 3370
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Originally Posted by ctnguye3 View Post

Yes I'm talking about the pass-through mode, I have the same set up as what you describe in your example except I'm using a PS3, but for some reason, if I turn the headset on, I can't view it on my TV, however if I turn the headset off, it automatically displays on my TV. Would it be possible to have the same source display in both the TV and headset at the same time?

Try to put the HMD on your head, the forehead support works like an on off button which you can disable in the options, so I think what happens is that when you turn everything ON but dont put the HMD on your head, it still in the off position, so just test it using your hand.
Press the forehead support and see what happens, its a button, or just disable this button in the option menu like I did.

and set the PS3 resolution to 720P

P.S. also check the menus if there is an option to enable/disable the pass-though mode.
post #3090 of 3370
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Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

Try to put the HMD on your head, the forehead support works like an on off button which you can disable in the options, so I think what happens is that when you turn everything ON but dont put the HMD on your head, it still in the off position, so just test it using your hand.
Press the forehead support and see what happens, its a button, or just disable this button in the option menu like I did.
and set the PS3 resolution to 720P
P.S. also check the menus if there is an option to enable/disable the pass-though mode.

Ahh that might be the reason why, I will try that tonight when I go home, thanks for the tip!
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