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post #3091 of 3370
Hello guys. I've been shopping for those in Canada since the last 3 months. I found a second hand pair on ebay for 600$

without having been able to try them, i tought it would be nice to find some review on the net...

I've read all of the 103 pages of this thread and was disturbed by all the bad comments on this thread. It made me kind of unsure about the hmz-t1. I've been a vuzix user and myvu user but sony hmz-t1 sure blows my mind.

first thing i did was to set the display at 10 inches and try out wipeout hd... my got it's nice.

i tried call of duty, and first person shooter if more difficult. your eye have to move a good distance to look at the corner map and while you do that, you loose eye contact with the middle of game.

I've yet to try a 3D movie, i'll rent one tonight and go buy imax under the sea tomorrow.

I've created an account here to try to make clear some points :

- Pixel visible only on white writing like at the beginning of games... in game, no pixel visible at all and i have perfect sight.

- Comfort issue. Nothing on my side. i played with the straps and pads a big 10 minutes and i'm pretty confident it's perfectly adjusted now.

- Images are sharp and vivid. content is clear and i see no lag or ghosting at all.

- the people complaining about lot of lights reflecting on the lenses, it wasn't my case. i played at noon with my blinds open and i couldn't see any kind of flare on the optics without even using the lights blocker. If you were to play with a light source coming from behind you, i guess yes, it could show flare / glare.

the only downside for me, it's difficult to find the sweetspot. it even seem impossible right now. i think i will have to do the mod for the lens adjustment to work independently. i've tried lots of different options, but one eye will always be with blurry edges. to have it direct on my face without any pads didn't help.

playing with the lens adjustment slider, or my right eye would have blurry edges, or my left eye. i can't get both eye to show perfectly clear picture.

I definately give the hmz-t1 a 8.5 out of 10.

Anyway, i was so depressed after reading the reviews / comments on this thread, now that i'm a owner myself, don't worry i'm confident you will be impressed with them.

CHEERS !
post #3092 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfgadoury View Post

Hello guys. I've been shopping for those in Canada since the last 3 months. I found a second hand pair on ebay for 600$
without having been able to try them, i tought it would be nice to find some review on the net...
I've read all of the 103 pages of this thread and was disturbed by all the bad comments on this thread. It made me kind of unsure about the hmz-t1. I've been a vuzix user and myvu user but sony hmz-t1 sure blows my mind.
first thing i did was to set the display at 10 inches and try out wipeout hd... my got it's nice.
i tried call of duty, and first person shooter if more difficult. your eye have to move a good distance to look at the corner map and while you do that, you loose eye contact with the middle of game.
I've yet to try a 3D movie, i'll rent one tonight and go buy imax under the sea tomorrow.
I've created an account here to try to make clear some points :
- Pixel visible only on white writing like at the beginning of games... in game, no pixel visible at all and i have perfect sight.
- Comfort issue. Nothing on my side. i played with the straps and pads a big 10 minutes and i'm pretty confident it's perfectly adjusted now.
- Images are sharp and vivid. content is clear and i see no lag or ghosting at all.
- the people complaining about lot of lights reflecting on the lenses, it wasn't my case. i played at noon with my blinds open and i couldn't see any kind of flare on the optics without even using the lights blocker. If you were to play with a light source coming from behind you, i guess yes, it could show flare / glare.
the only downside for me, it's difficult to find the sweetspot. it even seem impossible right now. i think i will have to do the mod for the lens adjustment to work independently. i've tried lots of different options, but one eye will always be with blurry edges. to have it direct on my face without any pads didn't help.
playing with the lens adjustment slider, or my right eye would have blurry edges, or my left eye. i can't get both eye to show perfectly clear picture.
I definately give the hmz-t1 a 8.5 out of 10.
Anyway, i was so depressed after reading the reviews / comments on this thread, now that i'm a owner myself, don't worry i'm confident you will be impressed with them.
CHEERS !

Great that you enjoy it, i love mine too, the only unfixable downside is low resolution, everything else is easily fixable.
Dissemble the unit remove the headphones and the side plastic that holds them, makes it lighter and allows you to use your own real 5.1 headset. (IMO its the most important mod)

if you have issues with focusing then also remove the synchronization wheel and it will allow you to adjust each lens separately

The comfortably is not very serious issue and can be solved by making or buying some pads or even searching on YouTube for many cheap/easy solution, even if you use some clear tape to create a strap from the forehead support to the upper head strap it makes it much comfortable to wear


You could order a new set on ebay USA for 680$ (3 weeks ago) so may be lower now.


Anyway, I dont know where you found lots of bad comments, because I ordered mine based on this threads comments.tongue.gif

Most of really bad comments are not from owners, if you pay attention its from 'tested in a store or my friend/relative has one'
people that see reflections usually wear glasses or use the unit in bright light, its not affects me personally because I never play games or watch movies in bright light, or any light artificial or sun.
Im not sure this will ever be solved, because glass against glass will always reflect light, so the solution is to turn off the light and play in the dark.

Welcome to the club mate
post #3093 of 3370
MEN, i found the perfect setting for me. ALL IS CLEAR edge to edge!!! very happy, in fact i was so happy, went directly buy imax movie as well as GT5 !!!

picked up last of us game as well !

Men this thing is impressive. my master bed room is 15 foot by 20 foot. i can tell you the hmz t-1 screen is wider then my celling ! ( 15 foot ! )

For me the sound is perfect. i'm happy with the 5.1 fake surrond. the bass is impressive too.

First pages of this thread, most have lots to complaint about. when u buy a product you never try, you hope those negative won't affect you.

I also agree on your resolution comments.

I bought my ps3 just for those glasses. I got the ps3 a week before the glasses and call of duty was better on my lcd screen because of the resolution. now, i guess i have to re-adapt to the glasses resolution, but it should be fine after a while.

Can you imagine 1080 on those.

GET the hmz-t1 before the t2 !!!! t2 more expensive for same device !!! ?!?!

thanks guys ! im so overwelmed.... !

i can't comment on GT5 yet as i'm downloading the game to my ps3 from the disc right now ( 15 mins left !!! )

CHEERS !
Edited by jfgadoury - 9/12/12 at 12:11pm
post #3094 of 3370
Sony is working on a prototype HMZ-T2 with head tracking and a camera for augmented reality video pass-through. They'll be showing it off at the end of September at the Tokyo Game Show. I don't want to take this thread off topic so there's one here for discussion:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1429066/sony-to-show-off-hmz-t2-prototype-with-head-tracking-and-pass-through-ar
post #3095 of 3370
Only ONE camera so it doesn't give you stereoscopy?! DOH!

edit to add:Ooops, I meant to post this in your new thread. I now will.
post #3096 of 3370
I haven't been using my T1 lately and have decided to either modify it completely or risk breaking it. I know there are some people here with heavily modified versions and I hope someone can help me. I might've broken it already but I'm not sure.

I only removed plastic so far and when I turn the T1 on I get the welcome/setup screen but I can't press any buttons (no response) and the screen goes black after 5 secs. The screen doesn't switch back but the T1 just stays black and 'on'. Anyone know what this problem could be?
post #3097 of 3370
I think you are fine. It's been a while since I have had mine open, but there is a button that gets pushed down on the top middle of the unit when your forehead pushed on the pad. You probably took this piece of plastic out (I did). Just tape it down and you should be all set.
post #3098 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyohan View Post

I think you are fine. It's been a while since I have had mine open, but there is a button that gets pushed down on the top middle of the unit when your forehead pushed on the pad. You probably took this piece of plastic out (I did). Just tape it down and you should be all set.

You can permanently disable this button from the settings menu. smile.gif
post #3099 of 3370
Haven't modified mine, so everything I'm suggesting is just speculation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcclane_ View Post

when I turn the T1 on I get the welcome/setup screen but I can't press any buttons (no response)
This happened to me once. Check the HMDs cord & HDMI plugs to make sure they are All seated all the way in the input and output sockets - securely.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcclane_ View Post

the screen goes black after 5 secs. The screen doesn't switch back but the T1 just stays black and 'on'. Anyone know what this problem could be?
You are describing what similarly happens when the plastic forehead supporter switch is inactivated when continuous pressure is removed.
Per the manual: "the screens will go off automatically 10 seconds after you remove the head mounted unit."

Paul
Edited by Paul H - 9/16/12 at 2:35pm
post #3100 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

You can permanently disable this button from the settings menu. smile.gif
Interesting. The manual states the the screens will go off automatically 10 seconds after you remove the head mounted unit "Regardless of this setting"
- Unless of course you apply something to keep it activated.
Edited by Paul H - 9/16/12 at 2:31pm
post #3101 of 3370
Thanks for all the replies. It was indeed the trigger/button that was the issue. I'm pretty much a novice/amateur when it comes to modding this stuff but I am happy I have the result I wanted smile.gif

I didn't know I could turn the button off in the menu so I put a little plastic string on top of it holding it down. I completely stripped the thing, removing the headphones, right/left side and the annoying wheel that makes it impossible to adjust one of the screens without the other. And it still works so I'm happy.

Now I just gotta find a good/better way for a headband and some cushioning but that shouldn't be a problem, gotta get a little creative. I tried the padding like the ones bravia3d sells (made my own) and it made the T1 wearable but the forehead cushion was always annoying. Never used it anymore, too much trouble for to little gain, so hopefully I can change that soon enough smile.gif
post #3102 of 3370
These oled screens are pretty reliable so warranty isn't that important. I just told myself to forget about the warranty and just have fun modding it exactly the way i wanted. Still a work in progress but enjoying it a lot.
post #3103 of 3370
when using hmz-t1 to playing first person or third person shooter it really give u the feeling that u are in the action and this experience i cant feel it on my samsung led tv.
post #3104 of 3370
The hmz-t1 goes for about 680 shipped on eBay now Brand new. If anyone was looking to get rid of their used one, I would bite for 600 Shipped. Anytakers? I really want one and I can PayPal today.
post #3105 of 3370


Edited by sonicoliver - 9/21/12 at 9:32am
post #3106 of 3370
people still complaining about hmz-t2.. its heavy and uncomfortable for longtime use.
post #3107 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by mohd2000 View Post

people still complaining about hmz-t2.. its heavy and uncomfortable for longtime use.

guys! it's just that they removed the gearwheel for independent IPD and headphones [added earbuds], forehead-pad enlarged , Rest everything is the SAME........so please do not have over expectations mad.gif

whatever it's lighter then the T1 behemoth by about 110 grams ! hehehe

For long time usage the entire design has to be discarded , something that will seldom happen as the AR version also has the same design as T2 so no over expectations please !

T1/T2 is just NOT meant for long time usage at all !
post #3108 of 3370
max i can use mine is around 3 hour before my eyes starting to get tired.
post #3109 of 3370
Guys please help me

1) Has anybody imported the unit [hmz-T1] from Japan ?

2) Does the Unit have english language menu system to operate ?

3) I Know US version works with 220-240V , 50/60 Hz Wall outlet - what about Japanese import version of T1 ? Has anybody tried the Japanese version to work on 220/240V AC ,50/60Hz ?

Please reply guys and help me - please!
post #3110 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancjob View Post

Guys please help me
1) Has anybody imported the unit [hmz-T1] from Japan ?
2) Does the Unit have english language menu system to operate ?
3) I Know US version works with 220-240V , 50/60 Hz Wall outlet - what about Japanese import version of T1 ? Has anybody tried the Japanese version to work on 220/240V AC ,50/60Hz ?
Please reply guys and help me - please!

It should work on 220V, the US version is not advertised as 220V but I have one and it works fine.
So it looks like that all units are the same, they dont have any localization or different parts, just different boxes and stickers


If you have nt got one then i recommend checking ebay, you can buy a new one from USA for 680$ or even less, its not worth paying more for Japanese unit
post #3111 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

It should work on 220V, the US version is not advertised as 220V but I have one and it works fine.
So it looks like that all units are the same, they dont have any localization or different parts, just different boxes and stickers
If you have nt got one then i recommend checking ebay, you can buy a new one from USA for 680$ or even less, its not worth paying more for Japanese unit

thanks for your jelp
check this out sony HMZ-T1 [japan version] - usd$599 free shipping worldwide - price negotiable [now that's cheap]
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sony-HMZ-T1-Personal-3D-Viewer-Headset-Video-Glasses-Virtual-5-1-Sound-HMZT1-/261105444640?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item3ccb18e720

the seller confirmed that unit 'd work on 220-240v , 50/60Hz wall outlet

but then if the seller means it or just pushing thru with sale - dunno !

Question 1 - does the Japanese version have english menu system at all ?

well i guess someone who owns the Japanese vesion will be able to clarify the above !
Edited by ancjob - 9/28/12 at 7:34pm
post #3112 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancjob View Post

thanks for your jelp
check this out sony HMZ-T1 [japan version] - usd$599 free shipping worldwide - price negotiable [now that's cheap]
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sony-HMZ-T1-Personal-3D-Viewer-Headset-Video-Glasses-Virtual-5-1-Sound-HMZT1-/261105444640?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item3ccb18e720
the seller confirmed that unit 'd work on 220-240v , 50/60Hz wall outlet
but then if the seller means it or just pushing thru with sale - dunno !
Question 1 - does the Japanese version have english menu system at all ?
well i guess someone who owns the Japanese vesion will be able to clarify the above !

I wouldn't trust this seller, he has only 113 feedbacks and if you check them they are for 3$ items, its a classic fake account, they sell lots of cheap items to get feedback.

Also if you check prices of other Japanese sellers they are higher then his, its very suspicious,

better buy from a trusted seller like this for example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sony-HMZ-T1-Personal-3D-iewer-Headset-Video-Glasses-Virtual-5-1-Sound-HMZT1-/190696419557?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true


anyway, there is English settings actually but i would trust him, there is an old Russian saying 'cheap people pay twice' LOL

Dont forget that even with paypal protection if he actually send you something and has a shipping papers it will be super hard to prove that he send you something else
post #3113 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViruzzX View Post

I wouldn't trust this seller, he has only 113 feedbacks and if you check them they are for 3$ items, its a classic fake account, they sell lots of cheap items to get feedback.
Also if you check prices of other Japanese sellers they are higher then his, its very suspicious,
better buy from a trusted seller like this for example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Sony-HMZ-T1-Personal-3D-iewer-Headset-Video-Glasses-Virtual-5-1-Sound-HMZT1-/190696419557?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true
anyway, there is English settings actually but i would trust him, there is an old Russian saying 'cheap people pay twice' LOL
Dont forget that even with paypal protection if he actually send you something and has a shipping papers it will be super hard to prove that he send you something else

you are right , now the listing is GONE! mad.gif and the seller is no where - Damm!

The good news for me is that HMZ-T2 will be available soon in my country - India through Sony India very soon !
check this out - http://www.sony.co.in/product/hmz-t2

So i am happy to wait ......
post #3114 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancjob View Post

India through Sony India very soon !
you are gonna wait a long time, I've seen comming soon for T1 for many months on Dutch websites. Official website is not a reliable source of information in this case..
post #3115 of 3370
just came across the 'inside display of hmz-t1 in action - i do not know why ppl say the sweet spot is difficult to achieve in HMZ-T1
For me photographing a display is proportional to quality of sweet spot - the ease of doing it - the better the exit pupil.

here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOp9mSojFOE

i'd have done this only with emagin z800 only , others like headplay,cinemizer plus - no way i'd get them on video in action that easy !

But again it's gamble of usd$900 [HMZ-T1] and if things do not work out , difficult to get your money back - so being cautious !
i prefer to wait for it to arrive in India only after getting a demo .
Edited by ancjob - 10/2/12 at 6:49am
post #3116 of 3370
Hey guys, anyone seen faq for how to remove sync wheel? Having trouble finding it online, thx.
post #3117 of 3370
Hi.
I just registered here to share some experience on my HMZ-T1.
I bought it from the US few months back, at first everything felt good because I did not use for long periods. The most was 1 hour +.
Then one day I decided to watch a full 3D movie using it.
The 3D effect is awesome. I love it especially without the flickering of traditional 3D display.
Everything was OK until it went pass 1.5 hours. My forehead starts to feel the pain from the pressure.
And it distracted my focus on the movie.
However i managed to hang in there just to finish the movie. Soon after i got a terrible headache.
i did some mods to the pads, and it didnt work at all.
As a last resort, i ordered the forehead pad from Blazin3D.
The item took quite a while before arriving to me.
But i would say the wait was worth it.
After installing the pad, I did a long gaming session with the HMZ. And I couldnt even remember how long I had it on. The pad helps to absorb all the pressure and I feel good even after a very long gaming session. So i must say the pads really helped me to appreciate the HMZ more!
And now i use it almost weekly if not daily.
Thanks to Blazin3D for an awesome invention.
Now if only there's a way to help me get the entire screen in focus. i usually get the edges blurry. That I still havent found a way to fix it. yet.
post #3118 of 3370
Cool, very glad it helps you so much!
I was able to watch all of titanic on mine last night.
I got 2 hmz-t2's coming on the 13th and going to
Mod those also.
post #3119 of 3370
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimossa View Post

Hey guys, anyone seen faq for how to remove sync wheel? Having trouble finding it online, thx.

You dont need it, search YouTube for disassemble video (and actually you dont need it too, but just in case)

I removed mine and cut off the headphones, i used the YouTube video but its so low quality so i never actually used it much.
every screw is of same type except the smaller ones that hold the sides, so just start opening it and removing screws in last step youll find the wheel
Its not glued or anything, you just pop it out

Now if you want to remove the headphones, its permanent because youll need to cut off the side plastics, very easy actually and makes the device lighter like the new model
post #3120 of 3370
After cutting off the headphones what do you use for sound? Speakers? Or your own headphones?
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