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post #1051 of 9896
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post

One sub? No budget? Without going *too* crazy, I'll suggest:
- PSA XS-15 or XV-15
- Rythmik FV15HP
- SVS PB12-Plus
Picking either HT or Music is just another way of saying 100% of one and 0% of the other. And, y'know, subs don't see things in human terms... wink.gif

LOL

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post #1052 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

^^^

I've got about 3500 cu.ft. unsealed, and my 2 XS30s work very well. wink.gif

Ummm....what?!

I've got 2 XS15s, not 30s....brain no worky today. confused.gif
post #1053 of 9896
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post


As to which sub, what's your budget? Knowing that goes a long way in determining what "PAIR" of subs will serve you best. Two subs are better than one because the acoustics of your room is out to defeat the sound waves produced by a single sub. Having a second or more subs in place, helps fill in the sonic holes created when sound waves run into each other, having the affect of cancelling each other out to various degrees.
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Per Tom:
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Multiple subwoofers have the POTENTIAL to smooth out the FR at various seating positions but in doing so they are generally "fighting" one another in some fashion. So you have to balance FR with headroom. Imo, these are the two factors which will determine 98% of how a subwoofer will "sound" so this "balance" is quite important. It is very difficult to offer a one size fits all answer to the 1 vs 2 question because of all the factors in play.(room environment, listening preferences, ancillary gear, intended placement, listening habits, ect)

It seems like many in this thread are quick to recommend two subs without taking into account how much more difficult it can be to get them working together. And how many times have 'bass traps' been mentioned in this thread as a way to improve bass response? (The answer is four.)

Sorry, the forum dedicated to my pre/pro has had a lot of discussion about bass response lately and many people are quick to recommend electronic fixes like the SVS AS-EQ1 and Velodyne SMS-1 but no one seems to want to recommend addressing the room...
post #1054 of 9896
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Originally Posted by cvinfig View Post

Sorry, the forum dedicated to my pre/pro has had a lot of discussion about bass response lately and many people are quick to recommend electronic fixes like the SVS AS-EQ1 and Velodyne SMS-1 but no one seems to want to recommend addressing the room...

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a room to listen to you? tongue.gif

Pretty much, unless one is willing to read up on the subject of how to get a room's acoustics to play and get along well with each other, you might as well be asking Congress to sit down, stop their petty bickering and pay attention to what their constituents want.

In the meantime, when one addresses room treatments, the assumption is they either have a dedicated Home Theater room or no wife to say; "You can't hang that there."

The safe bet, buy two subs, put them in your room and then come back here and lament how crazy bad everything sounds and start your education. tongue.gif
post #1055 of 9896
Very true.
A floor to ceiling bass trap is next on my upgrade list.
post #1056 of 9896
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Originally Posted by cvinfig View Post

Per Tom:
It seems like many in this thread are quick to recommend two subs without taking into account how much more difficult it can be to get them working together. And how many times have 'bass traps' been mentioned in this thread as a way to improve bass response? (The answer is four.)

Sorry, the forum dedicated to my pre/pro has had a lot of discussion about bass response lately and many people are quick to recommend electronic fixes like the SVS AS-EQ1 and Velodyne SMS-1 but no one seems to want to recommend addressing the room...

C'mon, we're trying to sell more subs for Tom and Jim! tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
post #1057 of 9896
Got my XS30 earlier this week but have not had time to tune them in yet. Just placed in a corner and plugged it in for now. Didn't have time and was very late to setup Audyssey. I'll definitely have more time by the weekend for sure or earlier if possible. But WOW, it's the first time I felt some rumble in the jungle.....and by jungle I mean my butt tongue.gif The bass is definitely room shaking for sure with only a few minutes of testing.

Now, can anyone provide any input on how to keep some of that noise, bass from getting outside the house? I usually will watch my movies at -10 volume on the AVR and I only had it to about -15 last night with the gain around 2'clock and when I went outside, I could definitely hear the rumbling outside. So neighbors are not going to like that.

It seems like one of the best ways is to build an outline of the room within a room by adding some drywall with the green noise cancelling glue between the drywall sheets and then to place it over your existing wall. This is not a option at this point b/c our walls have custom paint patterns on them and it would be a pain to recreate to say the least.

I also see some people blow fiberglass material between the studs in the walls which require drilling towards the top of the walls and blowing that material inbetween each stud. I'd rather not do this if possible and I think there is already insulation there, but not sure.

Of course adding curtains and carpet which we currently have should help as well.

Now my theatre room has an opening to the 2nd floor and there are also double doors that lead to the balcony. Right now there are only blinds on the double door windows and no curtains at the moment. I guess I could try to add some curtains over those windows but they are not regular sized but rather smaller size.

Then I read about panels and using those to absorb some of the sound as well as using bass traps in the corners of the room. One of the pics looks like the bass traps are like foamy cheese shaped objects that help absorb sound to allow better low level bass performance, but does it help if keeping the bass inside the room? Also they look somewhat silly if you're placing in your room, unless you just bring them out when you're about to watch a movie.

I've also seen people seal up their windows, doors, and outlets as much as possible with soundproof glue to help as well. When I was outside last night, I didn't check the the side of the house which is all brick. Maybe that side does a better job of keeping the noise down. I only checked the side where the double doors to the balcony were and could hear about where the neighbors house was. Of course the neighbor has brick to help but I want to make sure it's not too crazy for them.

I might just have to talk to them and let them know my situation and ask what time they usually sleep and hopefully their bedrooms are on the far side away from my place. And even ask them to come over for a screening so they can see what I have an maybe understand a bit better.

I think I ran across an thread which mentioned that bass is almost impossible o keep out vs the mid and highs of trebles. Is this true?

Sorry for the lengthy post, but does everybody else just have super sealed soundproof rooms or nice neighbors or neither? smile.gif

Thanks in advance!
post #1058 of 9896
Mines here!! All setup but only spl calibrated!

Audyssey will be run tonight. So far you can tell the difference between the 12" and 15" driver (I'm coming from a pb12). Full paces will be Saturday night. Or maybe tonight with finding nemo and my little boy smile.gif

I will post back with pics and review. smile.gif btw IMHO. Much better looking on my room than the svs
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post #1060 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post



Nice, smile.gif Congratulations
post #1061 of 9896
Thanks to all for your advices and for the welcome...

my Budget is: $1.200 max
Wife Approval Factor : None
Can buy one sub now and other next year (if necessary)

ONE XS30 can fill the entire room?? what kind of beast has created PSA??

Rythmik F15HP (sealed version) vs PSA XS30...would be interesting...
post #1062 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post


That poor PS3 is gonna take a beating! eek.gif
post #1063 of 9896
So, I kinda like the finish on my XS15s, but the wife is another matter. Since mine are sitting up front, they just look like a couple black cubes sitting there. biggrin.gif

Has anyone come up with a way to "dress up" the front face of these subs? Got any pics? I don't really want to attach artwork or such to it - don't want to damage the original finish at all.
post #1064 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

So, I kinda like the finish on my XS15s, but the wife is another matter. Since mine are sitting up front, they just look like a couple black cubes sitting there. biggrin.gif

Has anyone come up with a way to "dress up" the front face of these subs?

Kitchen curtains? Wives are suckers for daises and roosters. tongue.gif
post #1065 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

That poor PS3 is gonna take a beating! eek.gif

Haha. Good. Maybe thevutvwill die and I can get a slim or a oppo lol!!!!
post #1066 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

So, I kinda like the finish on my XS15s, but the wife is another matter. Since mine are sitting up front, they just look like a couple black cubes sitting there. biggrin.gif

Has anyone come up with a way to "dress up" the front face of these subs? Got any pics? I don't really want to attach artwork or such to it - don't want to damage the original finish at all.

When we redecorated our great room, the rosewood SVS PB12-Plus/2 stuck out like a sore thumb so the wife and I went out and bought some fabric and she sewed a "slip-cover" for it:

post #1067 of 9896
Ok just hooked up the XS30 and I'm noticing a small "thud" whenever I play a new source on the PS3. Like when I play a music track or movie trailer, whenever that source starts a small thud comes out of the sub.Any ideas?
post #1068 of 9896
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Originally Posted by SmokenAshes View Post

Ok just hooked up the XS30 and I'm noticing a small "thud" whenever I play a new source on the PS3. Like when I play a music track or movie trailer, whenever that source starts a small thud comes out of the sub.Any ideas?

Your auto on feature being triggered?

A suggestion, turn the auto-on feature off and then play a new source on the PS3. See what happens.
post #1069 of 9896
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Kitchen curtains? Wives are suckers for daises and roosters. tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by cvinfig View Post

When we redecorated our great room, the rosewood SVS PB12-Plus/2 stuck out like a sore thumb so the wife and I went out and bought some fabric and she sewed a "slip-cover" for it:


Good ideas, thanks! I'm gonna see if I can find a small table cloth that would fit, otherwise she can sew her own! tongue.gif
post #1070 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

So, I kinda like the finish on my XS15s, but the wife is another matter. Since mine are sitting up front, they just look like a couple black cubes sitting there. biggrin.gif

Has anyone come up with a way to "dress up" the front face of these subs? Got any pics? I don't really want to attach artwork or such to it - don't want to damage the original finish at all.

Think this would work, or would it be too big? I suck at math..... rolleyes.gif
post #1071 of 9896
Very nice.. Crazy did you get yours? I see your on the AVS forums now.. :P
post #1072 of 9896
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Originally Posted by SmokenAshes View Post

Ok just hooked up the XS30 and I'm noticing a small "thud" whenever I play a new source on the PS3. Like when I play a music track or movie trailer, whenever that source starts a small thud comes out of the sub.Any ideas?
exact same thing happens to me. In interested in a solution maybe
post #1073 of 9896
Set something on it also,I don't think it vibrate off. I don't have enough room up front for mine,its in the back. I have a small martin logan dynamo 700 I got free with my ESL purchase. Its wireless so I can put it anywhere,works great. I had that up front and it looked really good. Now I have it sitting next to my couch and I think it sound better there.
post #1074 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

exact same thing happens to me. In interested in a solution maybe

Have you tried turning you auto-on feature, off?
post #1075 of 9896
I'm not sure if I turned it on that. But I will try when I get home. Thanks
post #1076 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

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exact same thing happens to me. In interested in a solution maybe
I have never had that issue with mine? Did you set it just to on versus the auto on? I would shoot Tom an email.
post #1077 of 9896
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Originally Posted by Goat1 View Post

Very nice.. Crazy did you get yours? I see your on the AVS forums now.. :P

I just did A little while ago, have it unpacked and letting it warm up to room temp. before I hook it up.smile.gif
post #1078 of 9896
Yeah I'm not using the auto on feature right now and it still does it. Also when I did use the auto on feature I was sitting in my room reading something while everything was on and the sub turned itself off. I went to play a track and no sub. So I'm leaving it in the on mode
post #1079 of 9896
The XS30, XS15 and XV15, both duals and singles have been getting all the love here. How come the XV30 gets so little attention? Is anyone on this forum using an XV30? Wut up wit dat?
post #1080 of 9896
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Have you tried turning you auto-on feature, off?

+1
Just in case if turning the auto-on feature to off does not make the "small thud" go away, try increasing the gain in the SUB and reduce the sub level from the receiver.
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