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post #1681 of 10047
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Originally Posted by getsideways87 View Post

Just ordered an XV 15 today, very excited to get this setup in my HT.


Congratulations, smile.gif
post #1682 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Saints View Post

Sorry I'm not really following what you are saying. Before PSA started selling subs their was excitement and now I see them mentioned in all of the threads along side SVS, Hsu, Outlaw and Rythmik at the respective price points. To me PSA has gained a lot of respect in the community in a very short time.

Just an impression I get from reading all of the different threads. Always seems to come across like "yeah PSA great sub but this _____ one is better because of this _____ reason"
Don't get me wrong I LOVE my XS30s, its just funny some of the responses I read from some posters.
post #1683 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Just an impression I get from reading all of the different threads. Always seems to come across like "yeah PSA great sub but this _____ one is better because of this _____ reason"
Don't get me wrong I LOVE my XS30s, its just funny some of the responses I read from some posters.

PSA subs are mentioned when someone asks for a recommendation. The XV-15 and XS-30 get a lot of love. It's just that people are so fickle that they refuse to state one opinion and leave it at that. They tend to respond with what they think is popular right now. Even if they do think the PSA is the best sub for the job, they are usually going to throw out a Rythmik recommendation and then maybe a SVS model for good measure.
post #1684 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I find it actually sad that a lot of the time outside of this thread PSA simply doesn't get the respect their subs deserve! I love my dual XS30s and even a friend that works for a higher end AV store simply brushed off what I said about the PSA subs until he heard them for himself! He sells Paradigm and Velodyne and a few other high end brands. Now he's a believer too! biggrin.gif

How big is your room with your dual XS30s?
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Originally Posted by getsideways87 View Post

Just ordered an XV 15 today, very excited to get this setup in my HT.


Congrats! You will enjoy it.
post #1685 of 10047
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Originally Posted by CRAZYKAT View Post

How are you doing my friend,

I think keeping the amazing PSA subs. a secret would be as easy as you or me keeping winning the lottery a secret. Ha biggrin.gif

My XS30 is definitely not a secret that I've been able to keep from my neighbors.
post #1686 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Just an impression I get from reading all of the different threads. Always seems to come across like "yeah PSA great sub but this _____ one is better because of this _____ reason"
Don't get me wrong I LOVE my XS30s, its just funny some of the responses I read from some posters.

The only reservations I've come across have to do with their limited availability and there not being any real reviews out there for that reason.
post #1687 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

PSA subs are mentioned when someone asks for a recommendation. The XV-15 and XS-30 get a lot of love. It's just that people are so fickle that they refuse to state one opinion and leave it at that. They tend to respond with what they think is popular right now. Even if they do think the PSA is the best sub for the job, they are usually going to throw out a Rythmik recommendation and then maybe a SVS model for good measure.

Yeah, I can see how people do that. New guy on the block an so forth. Some people not all don't want to feel a cheaper more competitive sub is just as good as the sub they paid XXX amount more for. Nature of the threat.
post #1688 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Tom Vodhanel View Post

Hi Groove Rite.

To some extent the low frequency capabilities of the XV15 will be dependent on the room environment. In all but the largest of rooms you can expect fairly potent performance down to the 14-16hz range though. This should be more than adequate extension. Your output requirements are a different area to consider. If you don't mind me asking----

1)how large is the room and are there any large openings to other areas of the home?
2)Which receiver/processor and speakers are you using in the system?

I'm not sure if its the overall unassuming looks(you can't see the 15" woofer?) or the $799 price including shipping but the XV15 seems to be underestimated at times. In my 20/14/8 room(with one 5ft opening) a single XV15 extends down to the 12-14hz range and provides a clean 115-118dB down to 20hz and below (125dB >30hz). We should have priced it at $999 to ensure it got the respect it deserves..smile.gif

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
$999 ??? NO !!!!! not yet anyway..I'm considering getting two of these...
post #1689 of 10047
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Originally Posted by pretsam View Post

How big is your room with your dual XS30s?

Roughly 2100cubic/ft and there's a 6ft wide opening into a another little 800cuic/ft area. The dual XS30s have some pretty awesome output in my theater. I'm going to try to order a Dayton Audio OmniMic set up to measure my room but it'll probably have to hold off for another month or two because I'm just about to drop 3grand on a new LCR set up and 2grand on an AT screen to really get the full theater feeling.
post #1690 of 10047
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

My XS30 is definitely not a secret that I've been able to keep from my neighbors.

What's crazy is that PSA has probably sold over 200 of the XS30's already and its only been available for about 2 months!
post #1691 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Roughly 2100cubic/ft and there's a 6ft wide opening into a another little 800cuic/ft area. The dual XS30s have some pretty awesome output in my theater. I'm going to try to order a Dayton Audio OmniMic set up to measure my room but it'll probably have to hold off for another month or two because I'm just about to drop 3grand on a new LCR set up and 2grand on an AT screen to really get the full theater feeling.

Nice. What speakers are you leaning towards? Ok, my room is as open as open can get(20ft ceiling in family room with balcony look over) so was trying to get a rough idea how dual XS30s would sound since your current owner. Currently have 1 XV15 but going to 2 XS30s.

post #1692 of 10047
I'm going to go with the new 228HT's from JTR Speakers. They are pre-ordered priced at $999ea. And I'm just trying to decide which AT screen to go with, I have a 2'x2' sample of Seymour Enlightor-4K and XD screen materials and a sample of EluneVision Referrence Audioweave 4K material.
I was going to go with Ascend Acoustics Sierra towers with the matching center channel but this setup will be used only for movies and the JTR speakers and a really high sensitivity and are very dynamic and a great speaker for HT use.
post #1693 of 10047
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Originally Posted by pretsam View Post

Yeah, I can see how people do that. New guy on the block an so forth. Some people not all don't want to feel a cheaper more competitive sub is just as good as the sub they paid XXX amount more for. Nature of the threat.
I wouldnt say that. There are reasons people recommend different subs based upon peoples situations. X sub may be better than Y sub for such and such a reason. I am pretty confident that subs compare respectively based on their price points, well except SVS as I find them a little higher based on price vs value, but even still you are getting a solid sub for the money. I've been reading these forums for a long time and find its silly that a lot of people get butt hurt because someone didnt recommend the sub they bought. In reality if someone is spending upwards of $600+ on a sub we are already in the minority of people that just bought their HTIB that thinks its the best thing ever.
post #1694 of 10047
Hi Saints. I always enjoy your posts for their lucidity and insight.

Gotta rein in the rants, keep the new jacks grounded in reality. Good job smile.gif
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Saints, what sub or subs do you have?
post #1696 of 10047
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

Hi Saints. I always enjoy your posts for their lucidity and insight.

Gotta rein in the rants, keep the new jacks grounded in reality. Good job smile.gif

Who's ranting?
post #1697 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Saints View Post

I wouldnt say that. There are reasons people recommend different subs based upon peoples situations. X sub may be better than Y sub for such and such a reason. I am pretty confident that subs compare respectively based on their price points, well except SVS as I find them a little higher based on price vs value, but even still you are getting a solid sub for the money. I've been reading these forums for a long time and find its silly that a lot of people get butt hurt because someone didnt recommend the sub they bought. In reality if someone is spending upwards of $600+ on a sub we are already in the minority of people that just bought their HTIB that thinks its the best thing ever.

I agree but there are the minority that suggest such and such sub because they own it when another sub was cheaper an just as capable to do the same job(being new kid on the block psa). As jBrown stated that he has seen some people say the PSA is good but that person would state X sub is better because XYZ. I'm just assuming they are referring to a sub they own and spent more on. Poeple have egos they don't want to be crushed. So an so spends 10K on snake oil speakers when in reality he could of spent 5K and had even better speakers. He doesn't want to look silly for that purcahse no way, so he'll say they are great and say why even tho he could of spent less and prolly got something even better. If you kinda get what I'm saying. People always want to feel as if they got the best deal even if they could of spent less and got the same or very close to it. Ya, I was once there with a HTIB yeaaars ago thinking "man i'll never need to upgrade" and then you look where you are now with your setup and so forth. biggrin.gif Anywho back to PSA!

Anyone with dual XS30s tried stacking them to see how they sound?
post #1698 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Who's ranting?
Who do you think?
post #1699 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I'm going to go with the new 228HT's from JTR Speakers. They are pre-ordered priced at $999ea. And I'm just trying to decide which AT screen to go with, I have a 2'x2' sample of Seymour Enlightor-4K and XD screen materials and a sample of EluneVision Referrence Audioweave 4K material.
I was going to go with Ascend Acoustics Sierra towers with the matching center channel but this setup will be used only for movies and the JTR speakers and a really high sensitivity and are very dynamic and a great speaker for HT use.

It sounds like you are on a verge to having a really sweet setup jBrown. You'll have to get a few pics up when you get it all setup. The JTR 228s should be really nice!

Edit: That screen will be sharp as well man!
post #1700 of 10047
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

Who do you think?

I think you're referring too me, yet I don't believe anything I said was a rant so I still don't understand why you even made that comment.
post #1701 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I think you're referring too me, yet I don't believe anything I said was a rant so I still don't understand why you even made that comment.

Then why would you think I'm referring to you?
post #1702 of 10047
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

Then why would you think I'm referring to you?

Seriously then why are you vague comments about people ranting.
post #1703 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Seriously then why are you vague comments about people ranting.

Seriously, that sounds pretty serious. But are you?

Let's take it to private messages, I'm sure these nice people aren't interested in anything I don't have to say to you smile.gif
post #1704 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Saints View Post

I've been reading these forums for a long time and find its silly that a lot of people get butt hurt because someone didnt recommend the sub they bought.
+1000
post #1705 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Roughly 2100cubic/ft and there's a 6ft wide opening into a another little 800cuic/ft area..
Must be in bass heaven with four 15" and ~1.5kW in that room.
post #1706 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

Must be in bass heaven with four 15" and ~1.5kW in that room.

It sounds pretty great but there's always room for improvement biggrin.gif.
I hope to pic up a OmniMic set up next month to start to do some in room measurements.
post #1707 of 10047
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

It sounds pretty great but there's always room for improvement biggrin.gif.
I hope to pic up a OmniMic set up next month to start to do some in room measurements.

How do you have your duals setup jBrown?
post #1708 of 10047
As of right now I have one in each corner of the front of my room. I haven't really tried stacking them, but its something I'd like to try after I order and get an OmniMic setup for measuring.
post #1709 of 10047
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Originally Posted by Tom Vodhanel View Post

Hi Groove Rite.

To some extent the low frequency capabilities of the XV15 will be dependent on the room environment. In all but the largest of rooms you can expect fairly potent performance down to the 14-16hz range though. This should be more than adequate extension. Your output requirements are a different area to consider. If you don't mind me asking----

1)how large is the room and are there any large openings to other areas of the home?
2)Which receiver/processor and speakers are you using in the system?

I'm not sure if its the overall unassuming looks(you can't see the 15" woofer?) or the $799 price including shipping but the XV15 seems to be underestimated at times. In my 20/14/8 room(with one 5ft opening) a single XV15 extends down to the 12-14hz range and provides a clean 115-118dB down to 20hz and below (125dB >30hz). We should have priced it at $999 to ensure it got the respect it deserves..smile.gif

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Hi Tom! Thank you for your feedback!

My room is 20/11/10 with the entrance to my living room being almost 10x3x10. The doorway to the kitchen has no door which is why I didn't put a door in my illustration.

I'm using a Yamaha RX-V661 and have a MLT-2 system from Martin Logan. If I get the XV15, I will upgrade my speakers to Definitive Technology ProMonitor 1000's and 800's for rears. Just stinks that I just recently purchased this MLT-2 system! Speakers are not bad BUT they are somewhat lacking in the mid-range for sure unfortunately. The sub in this system stinks for music!!

Tom, believe me when I tell you that I in no way underestimate your XV15!! I'm pretty sure of whats its capable of! I'm just trying to convince myself that having such a high caliber/quality sub in my apartment and with my current (underwhelming) system is worth aggravating my neighbors, lol! My main concern really is quality sound reproduction at low to medium output. I won't be able to play it loud until I move to either a bigger apartment or my own home.

Whether the current price or if you went with a higher price, the PSA subs have my utmost respect and interest!! smile.gif

post #1710 of 10047
I will tell you that no matter how "low" your speakers are...the addition of a high quality sub will always show benefits. when I was switching mains...i had a stop gap of using the tiny Klipsch quintets paired with the XV15. these things are NOT meant for a room my size but did surprisingly well with the PSA crossed over at 120.

so a great sub will always be a benefit even if not cranked to its potentail
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