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post #5791 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

I just bought it on Vudu off my xbox, you can get stuff early on that ap
I have never heard or watched a Vudu video, but I would switch to Blu Rays to get the best possible bass and sound.
post #5792 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I have never heard or watched a Vudu video, but I would switch to Blu Rays to get the best possible bass and sound.

I tried Netflix here in Canada, and it was POOP, we dont get VuDu or many of the other streaming options here, so I am pretty much forced to either buy the new blurays, or hit up Family Video for the latest releases, but I agree, nothing beats having the original copy in your hands so you know you are getting it in the best quality.
post #5793 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I have never heard or watched a Vudu video, but I would switch to Blu Rays to get the best possible bass and sound.

Actually vudu streams all new release movies and thousands more in HDX quality, its way better than netflix. The quality is just like blueray but I still buy all my movies in blueray I just watched war world z because on vudu you can see the movies before they come out in stores biggrin.gif
post #5794 of 9907
When I do stream movies and use HDX quality, it looks and sounds like blueray, but I still only do it occasionally when I dont want to wait for a particular movie to hit the stores, then ill buy the hard copy once its out.
post #5795 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

I just bought it on Vudu off my xbox, you can get stuff early on that ap

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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I have never heard or watched a Vudu video, but I would switch to Blu Rays to get the best possible bass and sound.

Hi Reefdvr27,I have the disc and totally agree but Dolby Digital Plus sound just as good
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Blackmambakila, you should try watching it on the new Denon DBT 3313 player (set to bitstream) instead as the Xbox audio is just Dolby Digital.
post #5796 of 9907
A bit of Triax info from Tom;

Mike0206 wrote:
Great news Tom! Looks awesome! Do you suspect or know that it will perform as well if not better than the previous driver?

A bit better in several areas---which shouldn't be a surprise as it costs(and weighs) 50-60% more.

I'd like to say it is a "day/night" upgrade but our original design was really quite good. Once to get to this level of performance improvements tend to be incremental. The motor is much larger which allowed us to eek out a little more efficiency. It took a few rounds of mods (voice coil, suspension tweaks) but we were also able to keep the native FR closer to target. So less DSP massaging is needed and high level compression improves slightly.

So the good news is the overall performance of the Triax is improved in several key areas. The bad news is the Triax weight goes from 190(ish) to 230(ish).

Jim and I will revisit the pricing structure on the Triax once all the Pre-orders are shipped. Our costs have gone up quite a bit due to the new driver design and as much as I hate to say it...there could be a price increase in the near future.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
post #5797 of 9907
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post


Hi Reefdvr27,I have the disc and totally agree but Dolby Digital Plus sound just as good
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Blackmambakila, you should try watching it on the new Denon DBT 3313 player (set to bitstream) instead as the Xbox audio is just Dolby Digital.

Dude how did you get a blueray copy that fast? biggrin.gif I will use the denon from now on, I honestly havent set it up yet because ive been so busy at week this week, im at 100 hours today eek.gif thats a good idea though
post #5798 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

A bit of Triax info from Tom;

Mike0206 wrote:
Great news Tom! Looks awesome! Do you suspect or know that it will perform as well if not better than the previous driver?

A bit better in several areas---which shouldn't be a surprise as it costs(and weighs) 50-60% more.

I'd like to say it is a "day/night" upgrade but our original design was really quite good. Once to get to this level of performance improvements tend to be incremental. The motor is much larger which allowed us to eek out a little more efficiency. It took a few rounds of mods (voice coil, suspension tweaks) but we were also able to keep the native FR closer to target. So less DSP massaging is needed and high level compression improves slightly.

So the good news is the overall performance of the Triax is improved in several key areas. The bad news is the Triax weight goes from 190(ish) to 230(ish).

Jim and I will revisit the pricing structure on the Triax once all the Pre-orders are shipped. Our costs have gone up quite a bit due to the new driver design and as much as I hate to say it...there could be a price increase in the near future.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Wow thats awesome news! I dont mind more weight, that just means the beast has been given more steroids! Man this is awesome, I cant wait to see it! smile.gif
post #5799 of 9907
40 pound increase, WoW eek.gif

I guess you dont have to worry about somebody making off with that bad boy if they broke into your house eh biggrin.gif

I cant wait to see pics of these subs "in the wild" with all the nice finish options.

I was playing some demo scenes from SuperLeo's disc and noticed my subs were rattling my HVAC system a bit, what did you guys do to tame the rattles? I might not hear it at all once the drywall and Roxul goes up, but Id like to know what to do to prevent it in the first place.
post #5800 of 9907
Move into a BOMB shelter, that's basically what my HT room is like, I don't hear anything from outside my house, sometimes I don't even know if the sun is shining or it's raining out.
post #5801 of 9907
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post


Hi Reefdvr27,I have the disc and totally agree but Dolby Digital Plus sound just as good
.
Blackmambakila, you should try watching it on the new Denon DBT 3313 player (set to bitstream) instead as the Xbox audio is just Dolby Digital.
I go every Tuesday and pickup up the new releases. I will watch nothing without a bluray. I would like to experiment with the USB slot on the Oppp 103 and try streaming and compare the sound. I believe allot of people do that around here and say it is on par with bluray.

Do you prefer to let the blu ray player decode your disc's? I tried using the bitstream, but I prefer my 4520 to decode.


Loving the news on the Triax. I saw it on Facebook last night. 40lbs is a pretty big deal. I cannot wait to unleash the fury. Talking with the Architect the other day discussing plans for my dedicated build, we were getting in to acoustics and he is suggesting that I build over my garage to get the best sound out of my subs and front stage.
Edited by Reefdvr27 - 9/15/13 at 11:49am
post #5802 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I go every Tuesday and pickup up the new releases. I will watch nothing without a bluray. I would like to experiment with the USB slot on the Oppp 103 and try streaming and compare the sound. I believe allot of people do that around here and say it is on par with bluray.

Do you prefer to let the blu ray player decode your disc's? I tried using the bitstream, but I prefer my 4520 to decode.


Loving the news on the Triax. I saw it on Facebook last night. 40lbs is a pretty big deal. I cannot wait to unleash the fury. Talking with the Architect the other day discussing plans for my dedicated build, we were getting in to acoustics and he is suggesting that I build over my garage to get the best sound out of my subs and front stage.

Im not sure if the denon 4520 would sound better then Bitstream with the 3313 blueray player but id like to find out. Ima compare them tonight after work. Man I cant wait for the Triax, ima take pictures of the Triax driver beside the Trinity driver and im posting a video of my setup and play some music videos showing what they do to the house with everything up to the kitchen in chaos! biggrin.gif How do you get blueray copies before they hit stores? How much do I have to pay for this luxury? biggrin.gif
post #5803 of 9907
I have been granted approval for an additional sub by the wife.

Now what she does not know is that I am considering the xv30 for my roughly 2350 cubic foot room.

I am concerned that dual 15 inch ports might sound sloppy with music????

Is the XS30 the XV30 in sealed form?? The reviews are great on the XS30 but can only find one on the xv30?

I see the size of the xv30 is enormous, but really it is no bigger than 2 separate subs from psa put together (at least by much).

I have a dedicated theater so size of the sub is not concerning to me.

What is most important to me is being able to blend well with my Goldenear
Triton II's. I do want to dig deep in movies as well. The triton's do well for mid bass, and some lower bass. I want to go deeper! I have a Paradigm PW2200 which is a capable sub, but my thinking is that 1 xv30 will take up the duty of 2 subs in my space, giving me the quasi quad set up I am looking for. That goal is to blend well with the GE's and have minimal nulls. and dig deep.
The XV30 will go directly behind the couch.

My room dimensions are: 11feet wide/27feet long/8feet high.

Listening 50/50 Music/Movies.

Is this goal attainable or Are there tradeoffs when talking about speakers.
?
post #5804 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

A bit of Triax info from Tom;

Mike0206 wrote:
Great news Tom! Looks awesome! Do you suspect or know that it will perform as well if not better than the previous driver?

A bit better in several areas---which shouldn't be a surprise as it costs(and weighs) 50-60% more.

I'd like to say it is a "day/night" upgrade but our original design was really quite good. Once to get to this level of performance improvements tend to be incremental. The motor is much larger which allowed us to eek out a little more efficiency. It took a few rounds of mods (voice coil, suspension tweaks) but we were also able to keep the native FR closer to target. So less DSP massaging is needed and high level compression improves slightly.

So the good news is the overall performance of the Triax is improved in several key areas. The bad news is the Triax weight goes from 190(ish) to 230(ish).

Jim and I will revisit the pricing structure on the Triax once all the Pre-orders are shipped. Our costs have gone up quite a bit due to the new driver design and as much as I hate to say it...there could be a price increase in the near future.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
230lbs eek.gif, ohh man
post #5805 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

Actually vudu streams all new release movies and thousands more in HDX quality, its way better than netflix. The quality is just like blueray but I still buy all my movies in blueray I just watched war world z because on vudu you can see the movies before they come out in stores biggrin.gif

The only problem I can see is that new movies on Bluray, with DTS-MA or DD, are HUGE files, I have ripped a few of my movies to 1:1 copies so I can put the physical disc away in storage, and just stream the movie from my NAS, and when I get done, some of the movies are 30+gig in size. To d/l a 30gig movie over my connection which is 30megabit, it would take me longer to d/l the movie than to actually watch it, so I doubt you are getting the Full fidelity of a true bluray by using a streaming service. They have to make a compromise somewhere to prevent people from watching the data faster than they can download it, which means decreasing the quality.
When I stream from my NAS, I have my house wired with CAT6 for gigabit ethernet, which is plenty capable of streaming a 1:1 bluray rip, but over the internet, unless you are one of the lucky few with the new Google Fiber Optic Internet, I doubt you are getting the true quality of a blueray. wink.gif
post #5806 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

The only problem I can see is that new movies on Bluray, with DTS-MA or DD, are HUGE files, I have ripped a few of my movies to 1:1 copies so I can put the physical disc away in storage, and just stream the movie from my NAS, and when I get done, some of the movies are 30+gig in size. To d/l a 30gig movie over my connection which is 30megabit, it would take me longer to d/l the movie than to actually watch it, so I doubt you are getting the Full fidelity of a true bluray by using a streaming service. They have to make a compromise somewhere to prevent people from watching the data faster than they can download it, which means decreasing the quality.
When I stream from my NAS, I have my house wired with CAT6 for gigabit ethernet, which is plenty capable of streaming a 1:1 bluray rip, but over the internet, unless you are one of the lucky few with the new Google Fiber Optic Internet, I doubt you are getting the true quality of a blueray. wink.gif

Thanks for the input, in that case ill try and wait for the actually blueray discs to be in my hands before watching. 90% of the time I buy the bluerays but sometimes when Vudu shows a big hit available before it hits stores I get tempted to stream it early. I'd rather wait though and get the best quality, which is the whole point to spending on good equipment in the first place. I figured blueray discs were better overall than streaming but just never put much thought in it, thanks for your advice. smile.gif
post #5807 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

230lbs eek.gif, ohh man

Dude, so we might be looking at getting our Triax by next week! Lets see who knocks the light fixtures down 1st, After all I've got renters insurance now. Where are you going to place your Triax in your setup? Im Thinking about the right front corner but I'm not sure how many inches of gap I should leave between each side of the Triax and each side of the walls in the corner.
post #5808 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

230lbs eek.gif, ohh man

Yeah, 230 lbs! It's going to be real interesting getting this beast from the garage into the house (have to go up a step). Suggestions how to do so are welcome!
post #5809 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Yeah, 230 lbs! It's going to be real interesting getting this beast from the garage into the house (have to go up a step). Suggestions how to do so are welcome!

Bribe a few buddies with beer to help you move it?.....lol
post #5810 of 9907
Thread Starter 
Honestly I wouldn't do it without a dolly.
post #5811 of 9907
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Originally Posted by oneeyeblind View Post

Honestly I wouldn't do it without a dolly.

I have a couple of furniture dollies I used to move a sleeper sofa (damn thing was so heavy!). I dont know their rated capacity. Hopefully they're sturdy enough to handle the Triax?



post #5812 of 9907
Looks like it should work but without a rating its hard to say (did you look anywhere for a rating on it?

Anyways, if anybody is near a Home Depot you can get a 1,000lb one for $20: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-1000-lb-Capacity-Furniture-Dolly-33700/100057209#.UjZl_WTXhqg

I'm assuming Lowe's has similar or a local hardware store might carry them too.
post #5813 of 9907
Honestly the only thing.that might show a rating for weight will be the wheels.
post #5814 of 9907
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Originally Posted by jarretc View Post

Looks like it should work but without a rating its hard to say (did you look anywhere for a rating on it?

Anyways, if anybody is near a Home Depot you can get a 1,000lb one for $20: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-1000-lb-Capacity-Furniture-Dolly-33700/100057209#.UjZl_WTXhqg

I'm assuming Lowe's has similar or a local hardware store might carry them too.

I don't see a rating on them. I believe I got them from Lowes and they look pretty much just like the one you linked to, except without the handle cutout. Also just like that one they were $20 ea.

PS - I just measured mine and the dimensions are exactly the same as the one from HD you linked.
Edited by Saturn94 - 9/15/13 at 7:29pm
post #5815 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

Dude, so we might be looking at getting our Triax by next week! Lets see who knocks the light fixtures down 1st, After all I've got renters insurance now. Where are you going to place your Triax in your setup? Im Thinking about the right front corner but I'm not sure how many inches of gap I should leave between each side of the Triax and each side of the walls in the corner.
We should get it in a couple weeks, i have the smaller room so i will knock the fixtures down first....HA... Mine will go in the front, probably right corner also smile.gif
post #5816 of 9907
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

Honestly the only thing.that might show a rating for weight will be the wheels.

I don't see any markings on the wheels either.
post #5817 of 9907
I'd like to place sliders under the Triax, and leave them there, once I have it in the living room so I can slide it around myself to fine tune position or clean around it. My floor is Berber carpet/padding over concrete.

What do y'all think of using something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/EZ-Moves-Furniture-Lifter-Slides/dp/B0059ATZY8/ref=pd_sim_hi_5

I'm thinking the broad surface area of these sliders will make moving easy as well as preventing the sub from sinking too much into the carpet/padding making the Triax difficult to move later.
post #5818 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

We should get it in a couple weeks, i have the smaller room so i will knock the fixtures down first....HA... Mine will go in the front, probably right corner also smile.gif

Mine will go in the front left corner were the SVS cylinder is now. smile.gif

post #5819 of 9907
I think I may be one of the last ones to get the Triax, all the way over in central cali. But that said, even when R&L Carriers delivered my XV30F it only took about a week.
post #5820 of 9907
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

I'd like to place sliders under the Triax, and leave them there, once I have it in the living room so I can slide it around myself to fine tune position or clean around it. My floor is Berber carpet/padding over concrete.

What do y'all think of using something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/EZ-Moves-Furniture-Lifter-Slides/dp/B0059ATZY8/ref=pd_sim_hi_5

I'm thinking the broad surface area of these sliders will make moving easy as well as preventing the sub from sinking too much into the carpet/padding making the Triax difficult to move later.

I used these when I brought my XS30 home. It was very easy to move (also on berber carpet) once these were under it. It just slides around.
Granted, the Triax weighs twice as much, but I think it would work well.
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