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post #211 of 2963
9/24/12 at 6:45pm
So any opinions on these yet? I'm extremely curious about the 2 single subs. I'm looking to buy within the next couple of months and these 2 are looking like great options.
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post #212 of 2963
9/24/12 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

So any opinions on these yet? I'm extremely curious about the 2 single subs. I'm looking to buy within the next couple of months and these 2 are looking like great options.

If you're looking to buy in the next couple of months then you have plenty of time left to decide. wink.gif

Which are you interested? I can only comment on the XS15 - I've never heard the XV15.
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post #213 of 2963
9/24/12 at 7:57pm
I'm interested in both. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the XS, especially in comparison to ported subs in that price range if you've heard any of them (Outlaw LFM-1 EX, HSU VTF3-MK4 etc)

Im new to home audio, but I've done some car audio stuff, and the crispness of a sealed sub was always my preference music wise. But I know that HT is different, and I want something that can get good and low. If the XS is even remotely comparable to similarly priced ported subs as far as SPL down low, that will seal the deal for me. My room is about 2200 ft^3. I know the XS says it's for "small" rooms, but I'm not entirely sure what "small" means.
Edited by ttnuagmada - 9/24/12 at 8:04pm
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post #214 of 2963
9/24/12 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

So any opinions on these yet? I'm extremely curious about the 2 single subs. I'm looking to buy within the next couple of months and these 2 are looking like great options.

I received two XV15 today and I'm in the process of breaking them in. So far, I am quite impressed with them for both music and movies. I'll have more impressions to post in a few days.
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post #215 of 2963
9/24/12 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

I'm interested in both. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the XS, especially in comparison to ported subs in that price range if you've heard any of them (Outlaw LFM-1 EX, HSU VTF3-MK4 etc)

Realistically you should be comparing apples-to-apples, in other words ported to ported and sealed to sealed. The XS15 is probably a competitor to the HSU ULS15, Rythmik F15, et al, and not necessarily with the ones you've listed.

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Im new to home audio, but I've done some car audio stuff, and the crispness of a sealed sub was always my preference music wise. But I know that HT is different, and I want something that can get good and low. If the XS is even remotely comparable to similarly priced ported subs as far as SPL down low, that will seal the deal for me. My room is about 2200 ft^3. I know the XS says it's for "small" rooms, but I'm not entirely sure what "small" means.

My room is a little shy of 1800 ft^3, and the XS15 has no problems filling it. What I've observed thus far is a solid ability to play loud, deep and clean.
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post #216 of 2963
9/24/12 at 8:30pm
I should have clarified; I meant in comparison to those ported subs as far as output ability down low. I know the outlaw and hsu are made for it, but I figure the added driver size and increased power of the XS might allow it to be somewhat competitive.
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post #217 of 2963
9/26/12 at 7:27am
How much do those 15 inch drivers weigh.
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post #218 of 2963
10/1/12 at 5:04pm
I've spent some more time tweaking the setup with my dual XV15s. I'm very happy with these subs and have no regrets. I can't believe there's been so little discussion lately though. I can't imagine anything that isn't DIY coming close to these in this price range. The closest sub I've owned for comparison is a 15" dayton titanic in a sealed box with a 1000W dayton amp. The PSA sub beats the dayton in every single way, especially in sound quality.
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post #219 of 2963
10/1/12 at 11:31pm
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I've spent some more time tweaking the setup with my dual XV15s. I'm very happy with these subs and have no regrets. I can't believe there's been so little discussion lately though. I can't imagine anything that isn't DIY coming close to these in this price range. The closest sub I've owned for comparison is a 15" dayton titanic in a sealed box with a 1000W dayton amp. The PSA sub beats the dayton in every single way, especially in sound quality.

Same here, you'd think there would be a huge buzz over these things considering who's starting this company, but I'm not even seeing user feedback, much less reviews. I'm planing on getting an XV15 here within the next 2-3 months unless there is some serious negative feedback. I'm hoping things are silent because people are enjoying these things too much to get on the internet.
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post #220 of 2963
10/2/12 at 4:10am
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=6342810#post6342810

This thread seems to be more active
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post #221 of 2963
10/2/12 at 7:09am
I've started putting the XS15 through it's paces in earnest, so my review will be out in 2-3 weeks. Stay tuned...
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post #222 of 2963
10/2/12 at 7:45am
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

Same here, you'd think there would be a huge buzz over these things considering who's starting this company, but I'm not even seeing user feedback, much less reviews. I'm planing on getting an XV15 here within the next 2-3 months unless there is some serious negative feedback. I'm hoping things are silent because people are enjoying these things too much to get on the internet.

I've had my dual XV15 for a week now and I've got them nicely dialed in. For a ported sub, the bass is unbelievably tight for music and has been the biggest surprise. I was concerned about port noise with a single 4" port, but when pushed to the limits in my room at -10 on my Denon for movies all I hear is clean bass. I'm getting +/-3 from 80 to 16 hz in my room and couldn't be happier. I'm very happy with my purchase and I expect the pro reviews that everyone is waiting on will prove positive and increase the buzz substantially.
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post #223 of 2963
10/4/12 at 7:19am
I keep looking at the XV30 over and over debating about picking one up. It would be nice if PSA offered a vertical option for it. Standing on end with drivers firing outward. I keep measuring and trying to figure out where I could put a 3ft long subwoofer, a more compact vertical model would be awesome.
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post #224 of 2963
10/4/12 at 7:25am
Can't you turn it on its side?
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post #225 of 2963
10/4/12 at 7:35am
Yeah, but then you'd have cables and knobs on the top.

Also, the baseplate is larger than the sub itself, so it'd be tilted.
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post #226 of 2963
10/4/12 at 9:12am
Any reviews on the XV30. From the blu-ray link provided in this thread the XV15 is being very well received. Still have seen any graphs though.
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post #227 of 2963
10/4/12 at 9:37am
I'm eager to hear more reviews also.
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post #228 of 2963
10/4/12 at 10:15am
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Also, the baseplate is larger than the sub itself, so it'd be tilted.

That part's easy; the baseplate is detachable, and the sub runs just fine without it. Well, the XS15 does anyway, but I suspect the XV30 would as well. Of course, there's still the cable issue to contend with...
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post #229 of 2963
10/4/12 at 12:51pm
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Yeah, but then you'd have cables and knobs on the top.
The knobs are pretty low-profile, and a cable with a 90° plug would be pretty much un-noticeable. But that gaping port would just be begging for something to be dropped or spilled into it! eek.gif
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post #230 of 2963
10/6/12 at 12:18am
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

I'm interested in both. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the XS, especially in comparison to ported subs in that price range if you've heard any of them (Outlaw LFM-1 EX, HSU VTF3-MK4 etc)
Im new to home audio, but I've done some car audio stuff, and the crispness of a sealed sub was always my preference music wise. But I know that HT is different, and I want something that can get good and low. If the XS is even remotely comparable to similarly priced ported subs as far as SPL down low, that will seal the deal for me. My room is about 2200 ft^3. I know the XS says it's for "small" rooms, but I'm not entirely sure what "small" means.

Hi Ttnuagmada,

Does the room have any large openings to other areas of the home? If not, (assuming typical North American build) the XS15 is usually a viable option depending on your output expectations. Don't hesitate to email me if you have any other specific questions about our products( support@powersoundaudio.com)

Re-Drivier weight. I believe it is in the 18-19 pound range.

Also, please remember we have been shipping for 6(?) weeks and while new orders are shipping every day...give us a little time to take over the world..smile.gif

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
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post #231 of 2963
10/6/12 at 12:07pm
Hi all, I'm in the planning stage a small man cave 13' x 15' x 8' and looking for a sub or sub's. Options had in mind was either 4 Energy s10.3 (one in each corner) or one HSU VTF-15 or one Epik Empire or one PSA XV-15.

Any word on Josh Ricci review on the XV-15? I heard Gorilla83 is having a subwoofer meet on the 20th and Reefdvr27 is bring a XV-15. Hopefully this meet can help me decide on one.

Thanks Tom V. for coming on this forum to answer questions.
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post #232 of 2963
10/6/12 at 2:04pm
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Hi all, I'm in the planning stage a small man cave 13' x 15' x 8' and looking for a sub or sub's. Options had in mind was either 4 Energy s10.3 (one in each corner) or one HSU VTF-15 or one Epik Empire or one PSA XV-15.
Any word on Josh Ricci review on the XV-15? I heard Gorilla83 is having a subwoofer meet on the 20th and Reefdvr27 is bring a XV-15. Hopefully this meet can help me decide on one.
Thanks Tom V. for coming on this forum to answer questions.

Hi JChin,

If the room does not have any large openings to other areas of the home----a single XS15 would be a good choice. Room gain is tough to predict due to so many variables but I'd guess extension down to the 10-14hz range with output capabilities of 115-121dB over most of the operating bandwidth(dropping a bit <20hz). This assumes the sub will be within 2m or so of the key seats.

I talked/emailed with Josh a week or so ago and I believe we are likely looking toward the end of October for his review to be completed...maybe a bit sooner.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
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post #233 of 2963
10/6/12 at 3:19pm
Hi Tom,

Any plans to build a Dual 15" sealed XS? Maybe dual opposed? smile.gif
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post #234 of 2963
10/6/12 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Vodhanel View Post

Hi Ttnuagmada,
Does the room have any large openings to other areas of the home? If not, (assuming typical North American build) the XS15 is usually a viable option depending on your output expectations. Don't hesitate to email me if you have any other specific questions about our products( support@powersoundaudio.com)
Re-Drivier weight. I believe it is in the 18-19 pound range.
Also, please remember we have been shipping for 6(?) weeks and while new orders are shipping every day...give us a little time to take over the world..smile.gif
Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Here is a rough sketch i drew of the layout. I seem to have misplaced my tape measure, but I think I got the scale pretty close. This is all of the open area that is connected to the living room. ceiling is 8 ft.

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post #235 of 2963
10/6/12 at 10:14pm
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Hi JChin,
If the room does not have any large openings to other areas of the home----a single XS15 would be a good choice. Room gain is tough to predict due to so many variables but I'd guess extension down to the 10-14hz range with output capabilities of 115-121dB over most of the operating bandwidth(dropping a bit <20hz). This assumes the sub will be within 2m or so of the key seats.
I talked/emailed with Josh a week or so ago and I believe we are likely looking toward the end of October for his review to be completed...maybe a bit sooner.
Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Hi Tom V., thanks for the quick respond and update. Actually the room is open to the kitchen and small dinner area. But will be separated with a false wall and door to seal the room.

I see you recommend the XS-15 instead of XV-15, is the XS better suited for a small room? The man cave is going to be used for movies and gaming mostly (and some music). The main listening seat will be about 8' - 9' from the tv so about middle of the room.
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post #236 of 2963
10/6/12 at 10:39pm
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Here is a rough sketch i drew of the layout. I seem to have misplaced my tape measure, but I think I got the scale pretty close. This is all of the open area that is connected to the living room. ceiling is 8 ft.


Hi Ttnuagmada,

That is close to my room(20x14x8 with one 5ft opening) so i have a pretty good idea how each PowerX model will perform here. I would estimate the XS15 extending down to the 14-16hz range with clean output capabilities of 112-118dB over most of the operating bandwidth(a bit lower <20hz). Not quite reference levels but if you have calibrated the system and rarely push things louder than say...-6dB(6 under reference level) I think you'll be fine with the single XS15 here. I would try the left corners starting with the left/rear corner if possible for subwoofer placement. Once you spend a few minutes on calibration/phase I think you'll find the XS15 does very well with both film and music source material.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
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post #237 of 2963
10/6/12 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Tom V., thanks for the quick respond and update. Actually the room is open to the kitchen and small dinner area. But will be separated with a false wall and door to seal the room.
I see you recommend the XS-15 instead of XV-15, is the XS better suited for a small room? The man cave is going to be used for movies and gaming mostly (and some music). The main listening seat will be about 8' - 9' from the tv so about middle of the room.


Hi JChin,

In this type of room environment both the XV15 and XS15 would work really well in my opinion. The XS15 will extend a bit deeper, but the larger XV15 has the output advantage from about 18-20hz and up.

If you have calibrated the system with a SPL meter(or using an auto-calibration feature) it could make the decision a bit easier though. For example, if you wanted to demo(or view entire films) at full reference levels....I'd lean toward the XV15. Especially if you like to run the bass a little *hot*(2-3dB over the rest of the speakers). If you will rarely approach reference levels----sticking in the -3 to -6 dB range for your loudest demos for example----go with the XS15 and enjoy the deeper extension.(and the $50 savings!) At the end of the day the XS15 and XV15 will sound VERY similar on almost all source material so don't think one is going to sound "faster" or anything like that..smile.gif

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
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post #238 of 2963
10/7/12 at 11:48am
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Hi JChin,
In this type of room environment both the XV15 and XS15 would work really well in my opinion. The XS15 will extend a bit deeper, but the larger XV15 has the output advantage from about 18-20hz and up.
If you have calibrated the system with a SPL meter(or using an auto-calibration feature) it could make the decision a bit easier though. For example, if you wanted to demo(or view entire films) at full reference levels....I'd lean toward the XV15. Especially if you like to run the bass a little *hot*(2-3dB over the rest of the speakers). If you will rarely approach reference levels----sticking in the -3 to -6 dB range for your loudest demos for example----go with the XS15 and enjoy the deeper extension.(and the $50 savings!) At the end of the day the XS15 and XV15 will sound VERY similar on almost all source material so don't think one is going to sound "faster" or anything like that..smile.gif
Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Great info Tom, I still have about a month before decision time so will wait on the subwoofer meet and also hopefully Ricco review.
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post #239 of 2963
10/7/12 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Vodhanel View Post

Hi Ttnuagmada,
That is close to my room(20x14x8 with one 5ft opening) so i have a pretty good idea how each PowerX model will perform here. I would estimate the XS15 extending down to the 14-16hz range with clean output capabilities of 112-118dB over most of the operating bandwidth(a bit lower <20hz). Not quite reference levels but if you have calibrated the system and rarely push things louder than say...-6dB(6 under reference level) I think you'll be fine with the single XS15 here. I would try the left corners starting with the left/rear corner if possible for subwoofer placement. Once you spend a few minutes on calibration/phase I think you'll find the XS15 does very well with both film and music source material.
Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Thanks for the response! I think I'm set on this thing. Hopefully I'll be able to pull the trigger here in within the next couple of months or so, but it might end up being a Christmas present to myself.
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post #240 of 2963
10/7/12 at 8:25pm
I pulled the trigger on an XV15. Can't wait. This has been an expensive month. New Plasma, Oppo 103, new sub. Gotta stop spending!
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