Power Sound Audio Discussion Thread! - Page 11

It all depends what you are looking for. But one thing to remember is once you get a sub, you will want another, then a sub that digs deeper. To answer your question the $200 is worth it over the Outlaw. Clearly IMO the XV-15 is a better sub. I have both, so I can honestly say that.

This man doesn't lie. All my two XV-15 have made me do is wonder about how awesome two more would be.

Does anybody have any thoughts on how a dual XV15 set up would compare to a solo XV30 in performance? Or better yet, quad XV15's vs dual XV30's? Outside of the cost difference: pros/cons of going with XV15's vs XV30?

Thoughts?

I was told that two co located xv15's would have a couple db advantage over a single xv30 and that triple xv15's all located together would be very similar to two xv30's.

I bought 3 xv15's and have them all in a row behind a couch.

Good memory Ray!

The XV30 will have a 2.5dB to 3.5dB edge across the operating bandwidth(16-100hz) compared to the XV15. Adding a second XV15 will give you about 6dB more if you co-locate them in the room. If you separate them....say one in each front corner of a medium sized room....the second unit will add more like 3.5 to 4dB(instead of 6dB).

So dual XV15s co-located will have about 3dB more output. But if you separated them you would be very close in output capabilities to a single XV30. Dual subwoofers do give you the potential for a smoother bass response over a variety of seating positions though.

Ndskurfer----how large is your listening room and are there any large openings to other areas of the home?

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Just ordered a single XS15 yesterday 10/24 and it's scheduled to be delivered on Friday 10/26. Wow! thats fast. The XS15 is going in a sealed room that is approximately 1800 cu ft and will located in a corner. I had a PC12-nsd, but I could not get over the big cylinder in the room and had to move on. I had narrowed it down to two possible replacements the PSA or Epik Empire. I sent emails to both companies with questions and Tom responded within a few hours, thats service. They get my vote.

Good choice! The XS15 should be more than sufficient in your size room. Tom will take great care of you. Enjoy!

That's almost the exact same size as my room. Are your pictures secured properly?

Hi Tom! We exchanged a few emails earlier this month regarding placement (I have a PC13 that I'm looking to either replace or supplement).

My room is roughly 2300cf (picture is in the link in my sig if you scroll down a little in the first post). This pic is very outdated now as I have replaced furniture & some components and moved the sub, but the room is the same . There are 2 doorway openings that lead to 2 sets of stairs in the front right corner. The stairways limit my placement up front. I can fit my PC13 behind the front right speaker, which is where it measures best. I am looking to fill the back 2 corners with XV15's. From your suggestion, I'm also considering placing an XV15 on it's side up front where the PC13 currently, as the footprint is slightly too big to be placed upright and fit behind speaker, and a second (or third) along the back wall. I have REW, so I will be able to explore my options with measurements when it comes time.

Still in the info gathering stage, you have been a ton of help with your prior responses to my questions, thanks again Tom.

Yeah, really good choice----a single XS15 should extend near (or into) single digits in this type of room environment. Don't hesitate to contact(call or email) me if you run into any setup or calibration questions Brookhart---and thank you for the order!

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Oh Okay, I remember our conversations now.. When you mentioned DUAL XV30s you threw me there a little...

Don't hesitate to email/call if you need to discuss anything else in the future,

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

I'll keep your response in mind. Thanks.

Tom,

Any thoughts on giving a multi unit discount? I.e. Get $50 off a second sub purchased at the same time shipped to the same address? I would guess the shipping savings alone could make it a wash.

Just a suggestion.

Although it appears your business is doing just fine without it

Hi Kidhorn,


We do offer 5% discount on any dual order and 5% off for repeat customers.Like you said----every little bit can add up quickly..


Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Good to know. Thanks.

I couldn't find it on your web site.

Edit: Never mind. I found it "Save 5% when ordering two or more subwoofers. Please contact us for a coupon code.". It was in too obvious a location.

Hey fellas! I purchased the XV15 back around 25th September. I was running just 1 solo Velodyne CHT15 before. It was def a big improvement over my CHT15. My room is very very very open, a lot of space to fill. I have it placed behind the couch tucked in that corner. I ran it solo for a few weeks to try it out. I was looking for a sub to dig deeper and more punch than my CHT. The XV15 was for sure able to do that. I was finally able to feel some stuff that I was missing out on from my CHT. My room is not by all means ideal for a HT setup. It has 20ft ceiling, balcony look over and very very next to no walls connecting to other rooms. So I am sure I am still not getting the best of the XV that I could get in a more enclosed room! I eventually hooked up my Velo CHT15 and have it placed up front off to the right so both subs are angled from each other. It has really helped out in evening out the room and imaging a ton. I can really notice the XV15 take over when I crank it up and that deep bass on those LFE tracks kick in. Tom has been nothing but helpful with any questions I've had on setting things up and a couple hiccups when I first got the sub hooked up.










Panoramic pic

Congrats on your new toy!


Just a thought... wouldn't it be better to pull that way from the wall a little in order to let the port breath some? It seems to be a bit close.

There is 5" or 5.5" between the port and the corner wall, just the pic makes it look closer than it is. I can always pull it out a inch if needed.
Edited by pretsam - 10/25/12 at 7:42pm

That should be okay. If you hear any weird noises you can try sliding it out another inch as it could be the port flow having to make an abrupt turn. But I'd guess you're fine at 5 inches or so.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

I actually just remeasured it tonight and I was pretty off. From port to corner it's 10". From corner of the sub to wall it's prolly 1". The only time I've actually heard something back there is when I've really turned it up and I've heard something but haven't really checked out what it was. Just thought it was a picture frame on the table behind the couch or something sitting on the table behind the couch.

Hi tom. I got 2 xv15s sitting at home waiting to be set up cant wait till i get off work. Not sure if this has been brought up yet it sounds like u guys r workn on more subs if so will u offer a trade in, like if u come out with one thats more power then the xv15? Thanks nick

Hi Nick,

Going to be a long day at work I bet.. Don't hesitate to email/call me if you have any setup or calibration questions.

The trade-up idea is something Jim and I have discussed but nothing has been decided as of yet. If we come out with another "Power-X" subwoofer in the same price range as the current models we probably won't include a trade-in offer as it would be more of a side ways move in many cases. Factor in shipping and the potential benefits are minimized a good bit. If, however, we introduce a new product line substantially more powerful than our "Power X" product line(and likely substantially more expensive)....allowing all Power-X owners some form of a trade-in opportunity would be something we would *like* to do if at all possible.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Thanks for the reply tom and i understand about the side ways move wouldnt make since on ur guys part. Long days at work, they showed up yesterday but the gf left to get her hair done r somethin like that and they came when she was gone go figure, so 2 very long days at work waiting to open them up lol

I made sure I was up bright and early on delivery day in fear FedEx would come early and they did around 10am when they normally come around 3pm. Congrats on the 2 XV15!

Tom,

Couple questions. How well would an Hsu VTF-15H play with either your XV30, or an XV15? I have a large room (19.5' wide, 33' long, open to another room that is 11' x 15'. The VTF-15 is doing a solid job but, like many, I want more. Was going to add a second VTF-15H, but am intrigued with your subs (used to be an SVS owner as well). That said, I have no plans of selling the VTF-15H, so am curious if one of the above options would play nice with the VTF-15H.

Hello Ackbk,

If you have the budget for a second vtf15 that would be the "safer" option. With ported subs it is important to get the tuning point(phase shifting) as close as possible. Obviously you would want the extension and output capabilities to be similar too. I believe you would find the XV15 sounds very similar to the vtf-15 but it is tough to say exact;ly how the tuning points will line up. I tried reading through the one review (with good fr measurements) at audioholics a while back but to be honest....the "signal/noise" ratio lost my interest for the most part. There would be little doubt the XV30 would have a substantial output advantage but again...the vtf15 is no slouch in that regard.

Do you have one of the receivers that can Audy EQ dual subs separately? (Sub EQ HT). If so, that may help with the integration. But if the budget is there ($1000?) for the second vtf15....I'd avoid the potential integration headaches and just get a second vtf15...its a really good woof. I'm sure two of them would stop any upgraditis you might have....at least for 6-8 weeks..

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Thanks Tom, my current receiver is only Audyssey MutliEQ, and I suspected as much based on your reply (trying to integrate two different subwoofers). I am very interested in hearing an XV30, and hope I can someday. It might convince me enough to upgrade I will most likely add a second VTF-15H, but am also toying with selling it and going with two dual DIY subs. Since completing my basement build, I am itching for a fun DIY project

Very much appreciate your honest reply. I suspect your new endeavor will do just fine

Hi all, couple quick notes.

First, we may not be shipping on Tuesday. Fedex may keep high profile trucks off the road so we may need to wait a day or two(depends on the storm).

Second, we do have a few B-stocks we will be putting on the webpage soon(10% discount). We've gotten a couple review subs back, a couple shipping damage (very small nicks that we will provide pictures on request) and we have 1 or 2 with very minor blemishes in the finish(Again, pictures will be provided on request). I think we have 2 XS15, 2 XV15, and 1 XV30. All perform 100%.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

what's an example of a receiver that will do Aud EQ on dual subs separately? thx

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discussion-thread/300#post_22540216"]what's an example of a receiver that will do Aud EQ on dual subs separately? thx[/quote]

My Denon 4311 does this. There are other also.

Look for receivers with multi eq xt32. Audyssey has them listed on their site.