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WOAI and KENS will improve. KLRN is as it is.

- Trip

Though not DTV, I wonder if anyone is getting KFLZ-CA-6 easier now that KENS-5 is off ? While they were still on I could see traces of the 6 (also being bothered by the 100-kw 88.3 c. 9 mi away from me). The 87.74 audio no longer matches what's on 102.3 MHz (K272EK) making me wonder if there is any longer 83.24 video there.

I'm near Alamo Ranch about 30 miles west of the Elmendorf tower cluster. I am getting all of the channels well except for KSAT. I cannot find the sweet spot for them no matter what I try. Surprisingly KLRN is rock solid.

Dutifully did a useless rescan. Useless in the sense that I understood the only change in network broadcasting is that ABC 58 would disappear making my 7' UHF antenna nothing more than a wind vane for recording ABC.

Well KENS, WOAI and KABB seems went to half or quarter power. That or the weather from 75 miles out is causing problems. Was fine all week tho. Glad we got 2 months to sort this mess out.

My KSAT reception is fantastic (NW Military & Huebner) after their move to VHF. Pegged out at 100% on all receivers.

But probs with WOAI (60s) and KENS (low 70s), apparently as expected for awhile.
My KLRN reception remained about the same / mediocre after their move.
On the bright side, KENS' program guide through my DISH receiver is fixed.

Other stations, KMYS, KABB,... no changes since they didn't move anywhere yesterday/today..

Looks like I misspoke. While ABC did go from UHF to VHF NBC went from 58 to the vacated 48 where ABC was. Anybody confirm this? Need to update my software tables for NBC.

My receiver says WOAI is on RF 48. KSAT is on RF 12 now.

Thanks. I don't have a VHF antenna so I'll record off DirecTV.

Thanks to their move to VHF I had to buy a new Antenna. Will install in the morning when it is cooler. Hopefully it will pick them up.

This change of the channels has made my BeyondTV from Snapstream worthless. Hopefully they will update their tables so I can once again record OTA.

Right you are; we were finishing up damage control by 3:30am but our brains were too fried to focus on where the problem might be. We changed a lot of things all at once Friday - not the best way to do things - and it took some study to find and correct the problem.

Our voice to video sync should look okay now.

What's with the semi-static ancient Vipr5 radar displays on "5.2" and "5.3" ?

KENS TV had a multi-cast channel 5.2 which displayed the static regional weather radar image most of the time, until that sub-channel disappeared last Fall.

KENS recently announced that a new Spanish-language service called Estrella TV Network will be added soon to one of their multi-cast channels. I don't know if long term plans call for a radar image to remain on the other sub-channel, or if some other type of programming will eventually be added.

The KENS carriage of KHOU on "5.2" during H. Ike was much appreciated (easier than streaming from the Ch 11 website, and I could tape it as well). I know that they did something similar with WWL during/after H. Katrina, but I wasn't set up for DTV back then.

KLRN is at full power now?

I'm not certain of that, but they have a permit with the FCC for a channel 9 facility at twice the power they had on channel 8. I don't know if they're operating at that level.

- Trip

KLRN post from 10/07

Petegon checks in from time to time. I am sure he will give us an update when he gets a chance

I find this whole digital switch to be fascinating. I spent some time reading about it in other cities. There appears to be a common reception problem among VHF digital channels and opinions that the FCC will need to allow more transmitter power. That would explain my beef with KSAT.

For me, in Cibolo using a Terk HDTVA to supplement Dish Network, KENS held steady post-change at around 73%, just like before the change. KSAT and WOAI both dropped from mid-70\\'s to around 58%, though, I am receiving them fine (which is weird, becuase I usually drop channels in the hight 60\\'s).

I\\'m looking forward to the channels going to full power. For now, I rarely watch/DVR anything OTA, and only use OTA when I need to use my VIP-622\\'s 3rd tuner feature, because I\\'\\'ve already got the 2 SAT tuners recording something else.

I'm located about 7 miles north of 1604 and well, I'm relieved and excited with the change of the KLRN channels from 8 to 9. I could get all the channels very well before the switchover except KLRN would intermittently cut out, even with a good signal in the 70 or 80s. Now, with the weekend move, everything is perfect.

I installed my new Radio Shack 85" outdoor antenna Sunday morning. Wow what a difference. I now get WOAI, KENS, KLRN, KSAT, the 16 and 26 christian stuff, FOX, My network TV (35), then the 3 Spanish stuff above 35. If I move the antenna a little more I get a NBC and ABC channel from Corpus. (It started getting to hot on the roof to adjust more, so I will tweak more next weekend).

I am near 1604 and Bandera. Wish I would have installed one of these sooner.

Also, BeyondTV updated all the channels in their software today. So back to recorded HDTV OTA like a madman.

Whenever this heat wave and the associated tropospheric inversions go away getting KRIS (RF13) and KIII (RF8) from Corpus might not be as common. I've been waiting for KLRN to move its DT back to RF9 to see how KIII might come in. It was a lot easier to get it on Ch 3 analog for these past 45 years.

I am new and was directed to this site by City-Data San Antonio. I have read through pages of this thread and hardly understand a word of it.

I would like some suggestions on an antenna that is moderatly priced and will recieve KENS, KSAT, WOAI, and KLRN. The rest I am not that concerned about. I currently have a Phillips SDV2730/27. I live at Bitters and Blanco.

I have scanned and rescanned. I then did the re-re scan disconecting the antenna and shutting the power off then re-attaching the antenna and scanning.

These are the channels that I can recieve:

No Kens 5 anywhere at all, not even a peep.

I do have WOAI: 4.1, 4.2 (Very spotty).
KLRN: 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4 (great).
KSAT 12.1 (good).
KNIC: 17.1
ION: 26.1 QUBO: 26.2 ION LIFE: 26.3 Worship: 26.4 (good)

The following channels are in and out.
29.1, 35.1, 41.1

There is nothing on KHCE: 16.1, 16.2, 16.3, 16.4, 16.5

I have found out that the co-axial cable must also be positioned just so to recieve KLRN. If I left the antenna stationary but moved the cable, I would loose the signal.

I then moved on to the bedroom antenna
After another trying hour I have KLRN and KSAT and almost WOAI. I don't know what else because I was getting @#%$!

I oriented the VHF antenna due south and the rabbit ears kind of splayed out forward about 45 degrees.

Any help would be appreciated, Thank you in advance.

I have no 12.1 signal - KSAT at all. 78251 - over by Sea World

I live out by northwest vista and I get KSAT crystal clear.

Jimbo,

Do you have a VHF antenna? I couldn't get it until I upgraded my antenna to one that receives both UHF and VHF. I'm about 4 miles north of you.

I got a Radio Shack 85" outdoor antenna and it works great getting all local channels. I was in a hurry is why I went with Radio Shack. WWW.solidsignal.com has a good selection and not too bad on prices.

Tippylou,

If your antenna is indoors, the siginals can be hard to find. Hook up your antenna with a long RG6 cable. Try different places in your room both high and low. I got lucky and my best signal strength (until KSAT went VHF) was at the rear of my room 4 feet from the floor. Right on my rear left speaker.

So put your receiver on a channel and watch your siginal strength meter. Once you get the channel great. Try another channel. Most of the transmitters are in southeast San Antonio. goto www.antennaweb.org and put in your address and it will show you exactly where the transmitters are in relation to your home.

KENS and WOAI have begun the final stages of removing our former DTV55 and DTV58 transmitting antennas in order to install new DTV39 and DTV 48 antennas. This change will enable higher transmitting power, better area coverage and increased service to our viewers. But change sometimes has its disadvantages. As the tower crew ascends and descends past the Auxiliary antennas, it is necessary for both stations to take our transmitters off the air for a few minutes for their safety. We will make every effort to keep these off air periods to a minimum, but tower crew safety is our most important initiative.

Please bear with us during these momentary off-air intervals while we make improvements; when the project is concluded it will have been worth the wait. When finished, both stations will operate in the one-megawatt range, which should cover the former analog contours.

No problemo. We're watching the rest of the '08-09 season and not recording anything. But I can't wait to see the improvement on KENS and WOAI. FOX is already fine and I'll get ABC off D*.

I was startled sometime ago on Google Earth to see that there were now two large towers at the KENS/WOAI Elmendorf site. My Jefferson High School Radio Club had a visit out there to the KENS (east) transmitter building in late Mar 1964. Two guys on duty, log sheet in typewriter, two scan lines on a scope display, etc. One query was why were the buildings so far from the base of the tower - the answer: "falling ice", OK ... We were told tales of some rookie putting mineral instead of distilled water in the fiinal amplifier cooling system. Also, about the KONO-12 tower (s.e. of them) elevator failing one day trapping someone up in it. In late 1958 KONO-12 still had their tower downtown and could be seen on rabbit ears while KENS/WOAI were "way out there" - giving rise to their jibe of a slogan "clearly the eyes of the great southwest".