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post #241 of 7278
It doesn't seem to cause any problems for me at all. In Boston they have a channel 4 and 5 which are local and it works ok. Maybe if you are right near the transmitter their might be some reception issue and I'm not in that situation. Soon CFTO-DT plans to broadcast on Ch-40 which is right next to WIVB-DT on 39 and I hope that doesn't spoil my reception of that channel.
post #242 of 7278
Regarding adjacent channel interference, cable dude points out that some cities have a channel 4 & 5 and there is no problem. However, channels 4 & 5 are not really adjacent. There is spectrum in between ch. 4 & 5 (as well as 6 & 7).
post #243 of 7278
Ch 6 & 7 has 90 MHz between them, Ch 4 and 5 have a 6 1/2 MHz space. FWIW

BTW, I think Irv should fund ch7's HDTV effort considering how long he worked for them.

We could always get some of those "pistol packing punks" to persade him to donate!
post #244 of 7278
Greetings,

Is anyone in the Tonawanda's successfully receiving HD signals using a Zenith Silver Sensor connected to an HTPC? I'm using a FusionII HDTV tuner card. I tried receiving the signals last night but could only get a signal on 29. When I hooked up my attic mounted attenna that was there when I moved in I rec'd 2, 4, and 7 really good but not 33 or 39. The picture on 2, 4 and 7 were amazingly clear and even better then what Adelphia broadcasts. I'm a newbie to this whole HDTV thing and was wondering why people refer to the DTV stations as 33.1, 39.1 etc....
post #245 of 7278
I can't get the 17-1 to 17 translation. I did once, but it went away... I do have the 4-1 translation for WIVB-DT though. Need to reset my receiver again, hopefully I can get 17 to work, no Guide data either for 17-1.


As a side note, I contacted UPN/WNLO and there will be no UPN in Buffalo until April 2004 (or so).
post #246 of 7278
Quick question for daredevil23: I see from an earlier post in this thread that you are using a FusionII. Can you tune in the subchannels such as 33.1? How do you get the HD broadcasts through your Fusion? I'm using a Silver Sensor and can't even get a blip when tuning to 33 or 39. Is it all or nothing when it comes to HD UHF signals? I hoping I don't have to purchase an amplifier and larger antenna but wouldn't think so since someone in Lockport is using one and I'm closer to the towers w/o any obstructions. Anyone have any thoughts or similar setup?
post #247 of 7278
Jayzzz:

before I got my roof antenna & rotor, I tried a dipole made of 9" of wire on each side of coax, clipped to curtains in window, facing east. I ran that to my HD tuner.
It did pickup Ch39.1 that way. I'm in NT also, and it did get a signal, with dropouts though.
Go to RadioShack and buy the $20 yagi they sell. It's cheap and works in this area. Run some RG-6 to your TV. The guy in Lockport might be up on a hill, that will make a world of difference.

You must point South South east for CH4 and Ch2.
Ch17 HD (Ch43.1) is over on Grand Island so you need to point West to get that one.
post #248 of 7278
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Originally posted by JayZZZ
Can you tune in the subchannels such as 33.1?

Well there isn't any subchannels on 33, but turning to subchannels with the Fusion II isn't difficult, the scroll wheel on the mouse is the easist way.


Quote:


How do you get the HD broadcasts through your Fusion? I'm using a Silver Sensor and can't even get a blip when tuning to 33 or 39. Is it all or nothing when it comes to HD UHF signals?

I get all the available Buffalo channels in HD, I'm using a large aerial antenna on a 30 foot tower. The minimum signal needed is at least 50% with the Fusion for a picture to appear.
post #249 of 7278
http://www.tvtechnology.com/dailynews/one.php?id=1484 says in part:
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The seven stations that were admonished--WVUE in New Orleans, La.; WICZ in Binghamton, N.Y.; WKBW in Buffalo, N.Y.; KMVU in Medford, Ore.; WSJU in San Juan, Puerto Rico; WDWL in Bayamon, Puerto Rico; WJAR in Providence, R.I.--were given six months to get a digital signal on the air or face fines. If, after receiving a fine, a station is still not broadcasting digitally, the FCC's next proscribed step is to pull its DTV construction permit. None of the 71 stations that were admonished during the second round of extensions reached the stage of getting fined.

(emphasis added)
One almost wishes Ch7 would get its license pulled and a real TV station put in its place. It's an embarassment.
post #250 of 7278
Anyone know if wgrz 33 has been down the last couple of days.
I usually get it without any problem.I still get 39 with good signal strength but not 33.
I put up a ur75 on the same mast as my channel master 4228 and combined them.The 4228 is the one I use to pick up Buffalo and the UR75 is what I'm using for Rochester.I was using the double bow tie for Rochester but I thought I would try and max out my signal reception because my signal strength for 45 & 58 were half way I thought I would test the UR75 ($20.00)
I maxed out the Rochester stations and retained the same signal strenth for 39.1 out of Buffalo but get the no signal for 33.
Just wanted to see if anyone else was getting a signal before I change the setup.
post #251 of 7278
I could be wrong mrpergo but to my knowledge WGRZ does not come on till 2:00 pm. I have had it no problems at all the last couple of days. Hope this helps
post #252 of 7278
Jayzzz, You said you had a silver sensor antenna and an old rotor antenna. I have the same situation so I tie wrapped my silver sensor to the old rotor in the attic, hooked up the coax to it and viola! I get wgrz with 100%, wivb 93% and 43-1 pbs 100% ( I should I live on the island and its transmitter is in my backyard.) But I don't have the same setup as you I am using a Samsung t160 set top box and have a 57hdx82 Toshiba set. I hope this helps...Joe
post #253 of 7278
The Direc TV web site has the Bills Cowboys game on Nov.9 on channel 70 - meaning that it will be the HDTV game on channel 4 as well.

Good News!

But I have to wonder if bad play looks any better in high definition . . . .
post #254 of 7278
Couple of things----

one is that in NT you should get the hd signals on that antenna. I am in Lockport and can get them with a simple Radio Shack bow tie antenna on the TV (though I now have a quad bow tie with rotor on the roof!). I am not on a hill or anything, and have a lot of tree's around me.

TWO, MOST IMPORTANT, is wivb'd hd signal has been crap for the last few months. I used to get it perfect, but since they switched their control room to Indianapolis it is no good. Last night (Thurs) it wasn't even on. I really hope they get it together before the Bill's game! People should be calling and complaining to them and the papers and the FCC or whatever!
post #255 of 7278
What time wasn't it on (Ch4) on Thurs?
I watched CSI from 9-10 with no problem...
post #256 of 7278
I watched 39.1 Thursday night from 8:00pm till 11:00 here in Hilton,N.Y.
with no problem.Maybe you have a loose connection somewhere.
post #257 of 7278
Date posted: 2003-10-16
FCC Extends DTV Deadlines, Again
The FCC has taken action on 141 stations that requested a third, six-month extension of the May 1, 2002 DTV deadline. Of these, 104 received extensions, seven were "admonished," and 30 were left undecided.


The 104 stations receiving a third extension pleaded everything from poverty to construction and equipment delays, tower siting problems; the WTC collapse, and limbo due to pending FCC action on rulemakings or applications. According to the FCC, those stations managed to "demonstrate that failure to construct has been due to circumstances either unforeseeable or beyond their control." Additionally, they had to show that they'd made a reasonable effort to make progress.


The seven stations that were admonished--WVUE in New Orleans, La.; WICZ in Binghamton, N.Y.; WKBW in Buffalo, N.Y.; KMVU in Medford, Ore.; WSJU in San Juan, Puerto Rico; WDWL in Bayamon, Puerto Rico; WJAR in Providence, R.I.--were given six months to get a digital signal on the air or face fines. If, after receiving a fine, a station is still not broadcasting digitally, the FCC's next proscribed step is to pull its DTV construction permit. None of the 7 stations that were admonished during the second round of extensions reached the stage of getting fined.


The 30 undecided stations are actually satellite stations, that is, full- power terrestrial broadcast stations authorized to retransmit all or part of the programming of a commonly owned parent station. The FCC is still considering whether or not to allow these satellites to "flash cut" to digital transmission when analog goes down, so the agency deferred construction deadlines for these stations until that issue is resolved.
post #258 of 7278
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Originally posted by BLT
If, after receiving a fine, a station is still not broadcasting digitally, the FCC's next proscribed step is to pull its DTV construction permit.

"So if you don't wanna we won't let you?" What bearing does this have on their analog broadcasting rights?
post #259 of 7278
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Originally posted by Daniel Tonks
"So if you don't wanna we won't let you?" What bearing does this have on their analog broadcasting rights?

In theory, they could be off the air when analog signals are eliminated, but I have to admit I had the same question. The good news is that all stations that have been threatened with a fine have gotten up and running before the fines hit. Hopefully this will get channel 7 moving, but its pretty sad that it has come to this.
post #260 of 7278
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Adelphia Communications will start beaming three channels - CBS, PBS and Showtime - in the high definition or "HD" format by mid-November, with more channels to follow. At the same time, satellite services are increasing their offerings of high-definition pictures.

To receive the high-definition channels, Adelphia subscribers need a new set-top box costing $7.95 a month, or $4.45 more than a standard box. The channels carried in HD will also continue to appear in standard definition.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...01/1040313.asp

I have powerlink digital cable now, and they told me it will cost $10 per month more. At least its a start, but it's not worth it to me at this point, given I get CBS and PBS ota now.

I was hoping for more . . .
post #261 of 7278
When I called, they told me "next week" (so that would be Nov 3 on).
I'll pick up the box. I'm already paying $5ish for the current box, and it goes up a few bux that's ok, I'll give it a try. Maybe there will be something of value with the showtime channel. I suspect they'll pickup more channels as things move on, hopefully it'll get up to speed quickly.

I have a backup plan I've been considering, in light of the recent cable increases (I have full tiers and powerlink). I use my powerlink for my phone service with Vonage, it saves me a lot and just about pays for the powerlinks service in savings on long distance. If the HD on cable proves to be a bust, I'll drop back to just powerlink alone. Then put in Dishnet with this "superdish" and 811 receiver thats coming next couple months, looking for a big new user discount/install of some kind after the diehard dish guys get theirs all installed. My brother had directv and the picture was substantially better than the fuzzy stuff adelphia provides.

It'll all come to costs, of which I'll evaluate in the spring. If I can get better picture, more HD, at similar or lower costs, I'll switch.
post #262 of 7278
What is the receiver going do? Will it have a fire wire so I can record on to my HD VCR? Does the receiver covert HD for HD ready sets?
post #263 of 7278
So what happened to the football games in HD last Sunday? All I got was crappy SD upconverts in 4:3.

What's going on with WGRZ's signal, I can barely get about 60% signal strength, down from about 75%.
post #264 of 7278
Quote:


Originally posted by J in OP
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...01/1040313.asp

I have powerlink digital cable now, and they told me it will cost $10 per month more. At least its a start, but it's not worth it to me at this point, given I get CBS and PBS ota now.

I was hoping for more . . .

I wouldn't hold your breath...I've heard internally that they don't have the bandwidth to get more than the Local 3, SHOWHD and HBOHD...
post #265 of 7278
is there anyone else having trouble getting CBS (WIVB) to come in without freeze ups? post what type of box you have too if you don't mind. I am having a lot of problems, WIVB is telling me only people with Samsung are having problems! I have a sir-150.
post #266 of 7278
Sometimes I see 39 blink off many times per hour. It's like their transmitter was taking half-second naps - if I watch the signal strength it drops to nothing at the same time the freezups occur, but only for a second or less. I guess if WIVB engineering says it only affects certain types of boxes then they are aware of it. I don't know if my symptoms match their diagnosis.

I am using the HiDTV card.
post #267 of 7278
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Originally posted by colossus
I wouldn't hold your breath...I've heard internally that they don't have the bandwidth to get more than the Local 3, SHOWHD and HBOHD...

Wonder how this affects must-carry rules being debated, since there will be (theorectically) 5 or more HD channels in WNY at some point in the future (ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, FOX)

I've also heard Adelphia will try to make the analog system go away and everyone have to use digital, but I wonder if that is a realistic plan. Makes all those programmable VCRs sort of useless, for one thing.
post #268 of 7278
Buffalo people, I am in Erie and have Adelphia also, what are they saying about HD, how much whats the cost?

I can't ever get a straight answer from any one from Adelphia. One person says this another says that. WHAT

I am considering an OTA receiver if all Adelphia is offering only locals, HBO and Showtime.

Let me know.

Thank You
post #269 of 7278
I have had problems holding the CBS signal also. I assumed that it's an antenna problem. NBC always comes in great but CBS has a lot of problems with pixelization (is that a word?)

I'm in East Amherst and have a Terk clipped onto my sattalite dish. Using a Sony HD200.

I've been trying to decide what antenna would be better but I only need it for CBS and WNED and every time I make up my mind to buy one, CBS comes in great for a few days.

What antenna are you using? You are a lot farther from CBS than I am.
post #270 of 7278
OK, I had my antenna guy here today and got it fixed! I did have a very low level on 39, especially compared to 33 (NBC). They must be putting out a very low signal, which caused relections off tree's on my street, which caused my problems. The guy switched me to a yagi which is much more directional, plus raised it 5' and everything is now running fine.
It used to work, I think WIVB has dropped their power out, causing everyone a lot of problems.
Solution, try a better antenna!
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