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post #6541 of 7278
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CHCH wants to move to channel 15 meaning no reception in Western NewYork

You can also add limited reception in Southern Ontario near the border, including Ft. Erie. This would affect some Canadian viewers also.
I guess CHCH has too many viewers.

More college educated stupidly. What's wrong with where they are?? What, too confusing to have the same physical channel number as their 'virtual' number?
post #6542 of 7278
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

You can also add limited reception in Southern Ontario near the border, including Ft. Erie. This would affect some Canadian viewers also.

Looking at the maps I have, coverage in Fort Erie will improve.

Current (11): http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...ontour=N&map=Y
Proposed (15): http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...ontour=N&map=Y

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I guess CHCH has too many viewers.

On the contrary, CHCH was inundated with complaints from viewers, and not just in Fort Erie. This move is intended to fix those.

And looking at signal levels in Fort Erie from the current signal, I will venture to suggest that many people there are having problems with the current signal anyway, so it is not as though some great loss is about to befall them regardless.

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More college educated stupidly. What's wrong with where they are?? What, too confusing to have the same physical channel number as their 'virtual' number?

Almost nobody outside of this forum and others like it care or take this sort of thing into account, since it's a ridiculous argument. Should WGRZ move back to RF2 to satisfy this, even if that means 90% of viewers lose the ability to receive it? No, what matters is that people can receive the signal, which the flood of reception complaints showed is not the case with the channel 11 signal.

- Trip
post #6543 of 7278
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On the contrary, CHCH was inundated with complaints from viewers, and not just in Fort Erie. This move is intended to fix those.

At the cost of others. Funny they received analog 11 ok (and please don't bother with the analog vs digital coverage argument).
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Almost nobody outside of this forum and others like it care or take this sort of thing into account, since it's a ridiculous argument. Should WGRZ move back to RF2 to satisfy this

The statement has absolutely nothing to do with any argument for reverting back to anyones analog assignment, but as sarcasm for having the same physical channel number, since that is rare these days. It wasn't an argument, it was a question.

Why would anyone want to occupy a assignment that is already active and within 15 miles, even though it is low power?
post #6544 of 7278
I still believe that CHCH's best option is to broadcast at a higher ERP on CH11. I'll assume their thinking to go back to UHF is based on the fact that more OTAers already have UHF antennas installed. I personally got an outdoor VHF antenna and have no problems recieving CHCH at 65 miles from their transmitter. Now, knowing that CH15 WBNF is a Class A station, they do require some protection. I just don't understand how CHCH could choose the same allotment and expect the FCC to agree with their proposal. Remember CKXT on CH15 used a directional antenna broadcasting away from Grand Island, with a contour that was mostly to the North and West.
post #6545 of 7278
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

Now, knowing that CH15 WBNF is a Class A station, they do require some protection. I just don't understand how CHCH could choose the same allotment and expect the FCC to agree with their proposal.

The LOU with the Canadians protects full-service allotments. While WBNF has protection within the US, I am reasonably certain that it is not protected from the Canadians. I vaguely recall reading somewhere that CA stations are treated like LPs for the purposes of international coordination. I could be wrong, of course.

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Remember CKXT on CH15 used a directional antenna broadcasting away from Grand Island, with a contour that was mostly to the North and West.

Not quite. One of the two main lobes was pointed right at Grand Island.

http://www.rabbitears.info/oddsanden...tion=0&erp=9.1
http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...=1282750&map=Y

- Trip
post #6546 of 7278
There is as much decent programming on CHCH as there is on WPXJ, most in HD unlike NYLO & WNYO.
post #6547 of 7278
Are any of you guys getting better reception of CITY and CFMT, they have appeared to have moved to the CN Tower. Their are many reports of a much stronger signal being recieved for both those stations now.
post #6548 of 7278
I did a quick check on signal levels and with the rain, my three, now four 'locals' signal levels are up 1-2 db and stations out of Toronto are up between 2 and 7 db except CIII & CHCH which are down 1 and 7 db respectively.
I can't measure CITY due to WNED but it appears their signal is around 1db below CIII's which I beleive is average for this location.
post #6549 of 7278
Do you get a lock or watchable pictures on CITY and CFMT?
post #6550 of 7278
CFMT usually is of no issue, but with CITY, forget it. No more chance then before, but for different reasons. I would say CFMT & CITY have around the same levels at my location. Just as CJMT & CIII have the same levels.
If it wasn't for WNED, I wouldn't have any problem receiving it.
post #6551 of 7278
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

Do you get a lock or watchable pictures on CITY and CFMT?

I get a lock on both those channels about 50% of the time I try. CITY was coming in exceptionally strong around 4pm yesterday, which may have had to do with a move to the CN Tower, but that was from the meter on my Television. From what I'm told, that's not always a good indicator, but it's the only one I have. I checked another TV later last night and it was still coming in okay, but at a weaker rate. I haven't checked since. The problem is that I rarely watch any programming on those networks to care too much.
post #6552 of 7278
It appears that they may have only been testing on the weekend, from the CN Tower
post #6553 of 7278
I did a scan at 2 pm today and did not pick up anything different. Just the same channels, 5 25 19 41
post #6554 of 7278
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

It appears that they may have only been testing on the weekend, from the CN Tower

Well - if it was a test, I liked the results. It would appear the test is over. 57 is weak again.
post #6555 of 7278
Anyone know why the TVGOS time is 1 minute ahead? Seems like it has been that way for at least a week.
post #6556 of 7278
The time of the host channel is off.
My decks have been starting early for over a year, but it seems to be getting worse now. Call their engineering department and mention it to them.
post #6557 of 7278
It's been confirmed that as of 12/12 CITY DT and Omni1 DT, 44 and 47 respectively will be broadcasting full time from the CN Tower, Omni2 is not moving until their CH40 application is approved.
post #6558 of 7278
Great news. I'll keep my fingers crossed for CITY.
post #6559 of 7278
Lots of increase in height, and slight increase in power.
post #6560 of 7278
For me, OTA channel 2 lately has been having problems. Wednesday night it was almost unwatchable. I switched from my DVR tuner to my TV tuner and it was much better, but not perfect. It doesn't seem to be a signal strength issue it is more like interference. Anyone else notice this?
post #6561 of 7278
I hear Antenna TV (http://www.antennatv.tv/shows/) will replace Universal Sports on WGRZ 2.2 come January.

http://www.facebook.com/AntennaTV/posts/307458195941220
post #6562 of 7278
sweet! I saw some ad about a new NBC Sports Network starting up soon too..interesting
post #6563 of 7278
That will make our Canadian neighbors very happy since they love our old reruns.
post #6564 of 7278
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Originally Posted by el gran chico View Post

I hear Antenna TV (http://www.antennatv.tv/shows/) will replace Universal Sports on WGRZ 2.2 come January.

http://www.facebook.com/AntennaTV/posts/307458195941220

My mom will be happy to have antenna tv on 2.2. Does TW plan on adding Universal Sports after they stop broadcasting OTA?

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Originally Posted by tshaff09 View Post

sweet! I saw some ad about a new NBC Sports Network starting up soon too..interesting

NBC Sports Network is currently knows as Versus. The Name will change on January 2nd because the network is being rebranded.
post #6565 of 7278
that is great news it sucked when 2-3 rtn retro network was pulled in september. I liked watching the old shows.
post #6566 of 7278
Anyone try for CITY today? Today is supposed to be the move to the CN Tower. I haven't been able to check because I'm at work, but all the Canadian OTA forums seem pretty quiet on the topic today.
post #6567 of 7278
i did a scan and was not able to get anything more than usually do. ie 5 19 41 25
post #6568 of 7278
i am now picking up 57-1 city. However it is breaking up reguarly. My toshiba tv is getting 3/5 bars of signal which on other stations locks in a perfect picture. Hopefully this will improve. I also got 47-1 omni when doing a channel scan but am not getting a picture.
post #6569 of 7278
i sent antennatv station a email asking about the buffalo market, here is the response i just got.

Antenna TV will be on WGRZ starting on 1/1/12. It's 2.2 and on Time Warner Cable 114.
Thanks,
Bina
post #6570 of 7278
Apparently they still haven't moved to the CN Tower yet.
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