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post #6751 of 7283
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Originally Posted by rob50312 View Post

Too bad WBBZ did not spend some money for higher broadcast tower.Their current 66 metre tower does not provide much signal to Canada.

Seriously???

WBBZ's target market isn't Canada. Why would they spend money for something that isn't in their business plan?
post #6752 of 7283
agreed, no manner of scanning on analog-only sets locks onto a ch.5 carrier, which was negatively trapped when HBO occupied that space, and new sets with digital tuners find the dot-one clear QAM signal but similarly skip over the trapped-out ch.5
post #6753 of 7283
If you've been to a shopping mall, Bills game, Sabres game, BUF airport etc. lately, chances are there are tons of cars parked that say ONTARIO on the back of them. WGRZ, WIVB, WKBW, and WUTV are seen in homes for about 7,000,000 Ontarians that live less than 100 miles from Buffalo, many which are eager to spend their money in Western NY. WNY advertisers know this too (although Canadian cable companies complicate this a bit by substituting Canadian commercials on top of theirs if a Canadian channel is showing the same program at the same time - but there is still close to 3/4 of a million Ontario OTAers that get the major networks directly from the Buffalo affiliates) .

Both WNYO and WNLO have much lower numbers (much less cable carriage), while WBBZ has virtually zero (only the few that can receive it OTA in the Niagara region - it's on zero cable systems in Ontario). That's a considerable disadvantage to a Buffalo/WNY advertiser trying to reach the cross-border market.
post #6754 of 7283
rob50312;
Knowing that Canadians love old programming, it's a shame the signal isn't available west and north of WNY. You guys would love it. Though, like WNED, their additional, unnecessary sub channel wastes bandwidth duplication the main channel. mad.gif

Are you sure it wasn't a financial reason their ERP is what it is?
post #6755 of 7283
Here, crab at them: http://www.wbbz.tv/contact-us/ Tell them what they're missing so they can serve you...



It's pretty useless to rant into cyberspace.
post #6756 of 7283
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Originally Posted by el gran chico View Post

http://stilltalkintv.com/2012/06/big-bucks-help-wbbz-land-bills-game/
The first major upset of the Buffalo Bills 2012 season quietly occurred last week.
That’s when the National Football League team announced that the local rights to the Bills’ prime time home game with the Miami Dolphins on Nov. 15 on the NFL Network will be simulcast by independent station WBBZ.
WBBZ was a huge underdog for the game being carried nationally on The NFL Network. Insiders had Channel 7, the official station of the Bills, as the favorite.
But money talks. And WBBZ Owner Phil Arno emptied his pocketbook to land the game, which will have extra promotional value for the station. According to sources, WBBZ paid more than $100,000 to the NFL Network to land a game that has extra value here because The NFL Network isn’t available in about half the homes in the area because Time Warner Cable doesn’t carry it.
Too Bad, not only does Time Warner not carry the NFL Network, but for most of the southern tier, Time Warner does not Carry WBBZ, Olean and Wellsville being part of the Market WBBZ is not available. Time to complain to the NFL.
post #6757 of 7283
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

Here, crab at them: http://www.wbbz.tv/contact-us/ Tell them what they're missing so they can serve you...
It's pretty useless to rant into cyberspace.
Done that. No reply. Apparently useless.
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Time Warner does not Carry WBBZ, Olean and Wellsville being part of the Market WBBZ is not available. Time to complain to the NFL.
Since WBBZ's xmitter is in the southern tire, I would think OTA reception with a decent roof antenna (other than ones living in deep valleys) would be adequate.
post #6758 of 7283
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Done that. No reply. Apparently useless.
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Time Warner does not Carry WBBZ, Olean and Wellsville being part of the Market WBBZ is not available. Time to complain to the NFL.
Since WBBZ's xmitter is in the southern tire, I would think OTA reception with a decent roof antenna (other than ones living in deep valleys) would be adequate.
WBBZ transmitter is in southern Eire county, and is directional towards Buffalo, at 25 KW and on a low tower their signal is worthless, for that matter non-existence in most of the 3 southern counties of western NY. WBBZ depends on Time Warner or satellite providers for the station to be seen, they appear to care little as far as putting out an over air signal. That said I am sure that if enough of Time Warner customers complained to the FCC in the markets WBBZ is not carried, that Time Warner would have to carry WBBZ in those markets, sine at least in name only, WBBZ is a full power station, and at least Olean and Wellsville, are consider by the FCC, to be in the Buffalo Market, but I doubt that most customers of Time Warner, care if they carry WBBZ, but perhaps the game may change that.
post #6759 of 7283
WBBZ probably doesn't care about having a powerful OTA signal since most people have cable or satellite TV in their homes. If you contacted the local news stations that will definitely get TW's & WBBZ's attention & they'll find a way to make everybody happy since they won't like being in the news.
post #6760 of 7283
TW doesn’t carry WBBZ here, and hopefully they never do. I can think of so many other things QAM bandwidth can be used for besides wasting it on a TV station that has had an identity crisis since its inception. DirecTV carries WBBZ, but in SD only. Years ago when my antenna was hooked up I could hardly ever pick up 67, I believe that was when it was a UPN affiliate.

I wonder if this is a ploy by WBBZ to get more coverage on cable. The 8 county Buffalo market is made up of three different Time Warner franchises, and only one of them carries the channel.
post #6761 of 7283
OTA channel 7 is crapping out again. Since Friday (maybe earlier) it is unwatchable on my DTVPal DVR.
It is fine on the TV tuner which is amazing because of how bad it is on the DVR.
Channel 7 has pretty much always been glitchy on the DVR but the last few days it is horrible.
They must be doing something different than every other local (or Canadian channel) because everything else is perfect.
I shot WKBW an email a few years ago but they responded that everything is fine. I may bug them again.
Anyone else seeing a problem?
Also - has anyone around here picked up the CM-7400 DVR? I'd be interested in knowing if channel 7 is perfect with the tuners in that unit.
post #6762 of 7283
My Magnavox Digital Converter Box had a problem receiving WKBW the other day because their was lots of pixels moving across the screen. All of the other channels were coming in normally. I through it was just interference until i read your post, now i'm not sure what caused the pixels.
post #6763 of 7283
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Originally Posted by George Molnar View Post

agreed, no manner of scanning on analog-only sets locks onto a ch.5 carrier, which was negatively trapped when HBO occupied that space, and new sets with digital tuners find the dot-one clear QAM signal but similarly skip over the trapped-out ch.5

UPDATE: Time Warner sent a tech. to check into intermittent Cable modem disconnections, and he also removed an outdated ch.5 trap from the aerial faceplate to allow analog sets to get WBBZ, so now we can watch Columbo on Sunday nights on all sets!!
post #6764 of 7283
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Originally Posted by George Molnar View Post

UPDATE: Time Warner sent a tech. to check into intermittent Cable modem disconnections, and he also removed an outdated ch.5 trap from the aerial faceplate to allow analog sets to get WBBZ, so now we can watch Columbo on Sunday nights on all sets!!

That's good to hear. I'm guessing TW will remove the Ch. 5 traps when they find them since the ones they know of may have already been removed.
post #6765 of 7283
I think CJMT or Omni 2 has permanently moved to Channel 40.
post #6766 of 7283
correct
per their website

As of July 30th, Omni 2 DTV Toronto commences broadcasting on DTV channel 40. Omni 2 will continue to be available on its current channel 51 for 3 weeks. Operation of ch 51 will cease at the end of this 3 week period. The change to channel 40 will enhance the experience for our "over the air" customers that use an antenna to pick up TV signals.
post #6767 of 7283
Are any of you guys in the Southern suburbs able to pick up OMNI 2 on CH-40? Just curious.
post #6768 of 7283
After the dust settled with the final move to the CN tower, CJMT ch 51 was the weakest, then CFMT .
Assuming their ch 51 xmitter is still at full power and their new ch 40 setup is also, there is around a 6db difference between the two with 40 being strongest.
CIII is around 4db stronger than CJMT 40 and CJMT 47 is around 2db stronger than CFMT 40.
CBLT 20 is by far the strongest as usual.
I was getting a lot of signal fluctuation and at one point it appears that some "tweaking" was being done to 40 & 41 as the signal dropped substantially for a minute or so. wink.gif

Now, when can we get 44 & 40 to swap? biggrin.gif
Edited by videobruce - 8/2/12 at 6:19am
post #6769 of 7283
Well soon you'll have CTV2 from Fonthill on ch-42, a mere 27 miles from downtown Buffalo.
post #6770 of 7283
what is the virutal channel for omni 2 on channel 40?
post #6771 of 7283
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

Are any of you guys in the Southern suburbs able to pick up OMNI 2 on CH-40? Just curious.

Just did a channel scan. 31 DTV channels/sub channels found (several are new) with Canada coming in strong.


2 WGRZ
3 WKYC - from Cleveland, OH ... Really ?
4 WIVB
5 CBLT
7 WKBW
15 WBNF
17 WNED
19 TVO
23 WNLO
24 WJET - from Erie, PA ... again...REALLY?
25 CBLFT
26 WNYB
29 WUTV
31 CityTv
40 CJMT
41 CIII
43 WUAB - another from Cleveland, OH ... this is crazy.
47 CFMT
67 WBBZ

Still struggling to get 9 and 11 because they are on VHF and I have a UHF antenna.
The fact that I'm getting PA and OH channels could mean there are unusual conditions this evening allowing for long distance reception (especially since my antenna is pointing NW).
*EDIT: The PA and OH channels are gone. Maybe reception is best around sunset? The others are still there - thank goodness.
Edited by 1HD_addict - 8/2/12 at 5:41pm
post #6772 of 7283
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The fact that I'm getting PA and OH channels could mean there are unusual conditions this evening allowing for long distance reception (especially since my antenna is pointing NW).
*EDIT: The PA and OH channels are gone. Maybe reception is best around sunset?
Tropo ducting. Welcome to the world of DX'ing. wink.gif
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html (select eastern North America)

BTW, Erie isn't a huge deal, Cleveland is, but it would never last. The big questions is CITY as 31??
post #6773 of 7283
I stand to be corrected CKVP-DT in Fonthill is only 23 miles from downtown Buffalo, and it will serve Fort Erie, so I'm sure the signal wont stop at the Peace bridge. By the way CITY-DT broadcasts a repeater in Woodstock, ONT on CH-31
post #6774 of 7283
He didn't have a listing for CITY Toronto 44 which I was surprised at.
It will be interesting if 42 makes it through ch 43 on Gilligan's Island. frown.gif When is this suppose to happen?
post #6775 of 7283
It's already been approved by the CRTC for an ERP of 5000 watts at 146 metres HAAT. When they'll come online is anybodys guess. CKVP-DT is being built to serve Niagara Falls and Fort Erie with CTV2 programming, or basically a repeater of CKVR Barrie.
post #6776 of 7283
That was going to be my next question. What type of programming? I only assume it is not a repeat of CTV?

Reception is up again. Signal difference between the two CJMT's is around 13db. And between CIII & 40 is 8db.
post #6777 of 7283
Normally CITY shows up on 57 but on that particular channel scan, 31 was strong and 57 was gone.
Since then I did a re-scan and 31 is gone and 57 is back - but very weak.
post #6778 of 7283
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Tropo ducting. Welcome to the world of DX'ing. wink.gif
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html (select eastern North America)


Tropospheric Ducting Forecasts - very interesting. Thanks for the link.smile.gif
post #6779 of 7283
Here is a link to the Fall schedule for CTV2, it's the second posting down

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=154126
post #6780 of 7283
1HD_addict;
Not sure why the quote with no text, but full scanning a 2nd time (assuming that is what you did) was not needed since it replaced an existing entry. Whatever tuner/TV you have, you should of done an "add channel" as it wouldn't wipe you existing channel list out (assuming the device has that as most now do).

New Cable Guy;
Thanks for the link. Just a duplication of American programming. frown.gif How about non-prime time?
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