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post #7141 of 7283
Have you confirmed there are actually 5 different sub channels by viewing each one also confirming they are all different services??
post #7142 of 7283
Absolutely. Which works pretty well half the time. I haven't seen it done with six, but with one HD and four subs using StatMux. All is well until there's anything approaching moderate movement on the 720p main. Then it falls apart across all five.
post #7143 of 7283
There is no hard limit as Trip stated.

Of course, when you end up with around 12 video plus 8 audio sub-channels like KAXT-CD out in San Jose, youtube videos over dial-up start to look pretty good (tongue-in-cheek).


If you want good quality, OTOH, it gets a lot harder!
post #7144 of 7283
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Have you confirmed there are actually 5 different sub channels by viewing each one also confirming they are all different services??

All of the sub channels from WPXJ are different networks which i've confirmed are all broadcasting on RF 23. All the stations from WPXJ are listed below.

51-1 WPXJ HD
51-2 Qubo SD
51-3 ION Life SD
51-4 SHOP SD (all they show are paid advertisements)
51-5 QVC (Picture is 16:9 but quality is SD)
51-6 HSN SD
post #7145 of 7283
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Originally Posted by MPNASCAR24 View Post

Does anybody know how it's possible for WPXJ to broadcast 6 channels OTA at once because i always thought they were limited to 3 channels all SD or 1 HD & 2 SD. Right Now WPXJ is broadcasting 1 HD channel & 5 SD channels. Could they be compressing the signals because my tv says all 6 channels are on RF 23.

The Ion affiliates that are owned and operated by Ion (which is about 95% of them) are doing this.
Ion HD on -1
Qubo on -2
IonLife on -3
iShop on -4
QVC on -5
HSN on -6

Minneapolis is doing the same thing which is goofy as we have a HSN station OTA already
post #7146 of 7283
Well, it helps pay the bills, but at what cost to PQ on the main channel?
post #7147 of 7283
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

Both signals might be strong enough to mutually exclude each other and therefore neither signal will work, which might force WBNF to look for another RF channel to use. I'm guessing it would be CH34 which is licensed for broadcast because WNYO used it temporarily. Can you still receive WBNF at your location? also considering CHCH is only at 1/10th their full power right now on 15. I'm surprised the folks living on Grand Island aren't starting to glow from all that RF floating around.
I know this is an older post, but you mention that WBNF might try to move to Ch34. Currently WVTT-CA in Olean has an application to build on Ch34 on a Tower just out of Arcade.
http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine.php?sCurrentService=TV&tabSearchType=Appl&sAppIDNumber=1560411
post #7148 of 7283
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Originally Posted by Warrenl View Post


I know this is an older post, but you mention that WBNF might try to move to Ch34. Currently WVTT-CA in Olean has an application to build on Ch34 on a Tower just out of Arcade.
http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine.php?sCurrentService=TV&tabSearchType=Appl&sAppIDNumber=1560411

WVTT-CA already has a CP to flash cut to digital on ch. 25. The ch. 34 application is listed on both FCCinfo.com and by FCC.gov as a new application by Milachi Media. If WBNF-CA wanted ch. 34, all they would have to do is prove that they are displaced on ch. 15, and their application would take priority over Milachi's.
post #7149 of 7283
Doesn't look like many of you saw the announcement about WBNF being sold to LocusPoint Networks

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/70858/wbnfcd-buffalo-sells-for-14-million

There seems to be a fair amount of speculation that LocusPoint is acquiring TV stations in order to dump them in the FCC reverse spectrum auction.
post #7150 of 7283
It looks like WBNF new owner is acquiring stations for the spectrum auction High-rolling players

The Blackstone Group LP, which recorded a $2 billion profit in 2012, owns 99 percent of LocusPoint through its “Blackstone Tactical Opportunities” division, according to FCC filings. The remaining 1 percent is split by Ravi Potharlanka and William deKay, veteran telecom executives who find and handle the trans. In 2012, Blackstone recorded a $2 billion profit for the year on $4 billion in revenue." http://www.current.org/2013/02/speculators-betting-big-on-fcc-tv-spectrum-auctions/
post #7151 of 7283
Gotta love this big business free for all. What? Flipping TV stations now?
More deregulation at work. mad.gif
post #7152 of 7283
Just read on one of the Canadian forums that WGRZ is supposed to add a third subchannel by January 3rd. I can't find anything concrete, however.
post #7153 of 7283
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Originally Posted by bowenap View Post

Just read on one of the Canadian forums that WGRZ is supposed to add a third subchannel by January 3rd. I can't find anything concrete, however.
That may not make any diference in picture quality for the majority of viewers as stations, these days, often feed their video to cable via fiber or microwave without any additional compression. I don't know what the situation is here (Buffalo), but that was the case in Rochester.
post #7154 of 7283
The NHL and Rogers just signed a multi-year multi-billion dollar TV deal. If this sample proposal is to be believed, we should see some games both on CBC and CITY (if you can get it in WNY like I can) next year.

post #7155 of 7283
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

CHCH Is now testing on RF15 can any of you guys in the Southern tier recieve it? They are operating at reduced power for now until they finish testing.

Well I'll be darned....
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

As of minutes ago they just went to Full Power signal, can you see anything at your location. It's now 137 pm. I don't know if they will stay at Full Power as they are testing. Their signal is busting my doors down now.

Now I know what may be creating havoc with WEWS RF 15 here on occasion... what kind of power are we talking about? I used to pick up CHCH analog here though might had been a repeater was either on 11 or 51 (Repeater?).
post #7156 of 7283
On a different note, everyones favorite MSO; TWC has upgraded the menu for their DVR's (among other things). The discussion started here;
http://www.avsforum.com/t/723830/time-warner-cable-navigator/18330#post_23912659

It happened in this market last weekend or so. Improvement except the 'window' of available programming in their Guide is still eight stations and only 90-120 minutes (depending on where you are, half hour or hour). One would think with the additional space, three hours would be the norm. Though when you hit info, all the text is on one window, no scrolling to another page which was very annoying.

Hey, Dave, you been slipping. I figured you would be the one to post this. wink.gif
post #7157 of 7283
Not exactly sure what you mean by ‘still eight stations’. It’s actually 7 channels over two hours of time, as opposed to the old UI which was 5 channels over 90 minutes of time. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but right now I would have to say TWs guide is one of the best in the industry. DirecTV is 6 channels over 90 minutes, Dish is 6 channels over 3 hours, Verizon is 6 channels over 2 ½ hours with that repulsive looking guide.

In comparing as best as I can apples to apples between TW and DirecTV, there is no comparison between the two and which provider takes more of an advantage with the additional screen real estate.


post #7158 of 7283
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Not exactly sure what you mean by ‘still eight stations’. It’s actually 7 channels over two hours of time, as opposed to the old UI which was 5 channels over 90 minutes of time.
Ok, it was 7, not 8, but the time span is still 90" (or 120") depending on where you start (half hour or hour).

The text is too large is the biggest problem AFAIC. One more row could be added if the icons at the bottom were not there. Yes, it is better than DaveTV. But, thanks for the details of the other two services.
Verizon has a "repulsive looking Guide"?? eek.gif
post #7159 of 7283
I do not understand what you mean by 90 or 120 minutes depending where you start. The guide spans 120 minutes. Sure one more channel could fit at the bottom but where would you place the information found there? The TW logo and the legally obligated TV Guide logo could be placed at the top somewhere, but there would be no room for A or B. The text size is fine. My uncle has Dish and on their 35 or 36” TV the guide with the three hour’s worth of programming is just barley legible from where they sit. Wouldn’t be a problem on bigger screens. And yes the Verizon guide is the worst I’ve seen and used. I cannot stand now the program info takes over the whole line of the channel you are on, I can’t stand the color coding, can’t stand the way it looks in general. The TiVo guide is the only thing I’ve ever had the displeasure of using that was worse than Fios. And unlike others, there are no ads in the guide with TW.
post #7160 of 7283
TW's New Guide looks just as good as directv's guide. It's too bad my SA 8240HDC will never have it.
post #7161 of 7283
Doesn't matter what it looks like when it is slow as hell. These cable card boxes SUCK.
post #7162 of 7283
What do you mean by slow? What functions are slow for you?
post #7163 of 7283
CHCH is broadcasting on rf15. Anyone pick this up? I can not receive it at all. Are they on virtual channel 11-1 of 15-1?
post #7164 of 7283
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Originally Posted by FUCCO View Post

CHCH is broadcasting on rf15. Anyone pick this up? I can not receive it at all. Are they on virtual channel 11-1 of 15-1?

Virtual channel remains the same.
post #7165 of 7283
Buffalo rf15 is killing it for me right now. RF 15 shows up at 82% on my HDhomerun but I can't lock it at all. Co-channel interference I presume.
post #7166 of 7283
not getting chch but did a scan and got 6.1 global from Ottawa, Yet I can not get chch from hamilton
post #7167 of 7283
It's not from Ottawa. It's from Paris, Ontario, near Kitchener from the complete other direction.
post #7168 of 7283
Looks like WGRZ has a third sub-channel. I haven't been able to verify myself, but apparently, according to the station's Facebook page, it's going to play news, weather, and some UB Athletics programing (WGRZ signed an agreement with UB to air programming on the football and basketball teams including some live games). Right now, however, it's just showing the same programing as 2-2.
post #7169 of 7283
You can thank the FCC and the CRTC for the CHCH debacle. mad.gif
post #7170 of 7283
I'm guessing the programming for 2-3 may not be ready to air yet so in the meantime they'll show 2-2. I read TW will be adding 2-3 to their lineup around January 3rd.
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