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post #391 of 1066
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Originally Posted by HopefulFred View Post

http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/ventilation/Duct-Pipes-Plenums/speedi-products-wall-stack-straight-boot-12-x-3-1-4-x-6
The only thing that's not clear from this picture, which is use at the link above, as well as at the homedepot website, is if the round section is centered on the wall section, or if they share an edge. (Does that make sense?) Making the duct thinner doesn't do me any good if it doesn't lay flat against the inside of the soffit.

I've never seen them straight. I've always seen them offset. That being said, they probably make both types. I think I've seen them at HD.

Tim
post #392 of 1066
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That's what I figured, Tim. Just couldn't be sure from the picture. I'll go lay hands on one before I commit.
post #393 of 1066
HF,
Not sure how I missed this build? But seeing some of the other riff-raff (RT, JPA) that hangs out here - I subscribed.
Oh, the build also looks to be a good one smile.gif
post #394 of 1066
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Very glad to have you! I try to specialize in riff -raff. You'll fit right in.
post #395 of 1066
Riff-raff, hey I resemble that remark! smile.gif

Oh, and don't feel bad cuzed, I sometime stumble upon a thread and wonder where I have been and how did I miss it. Also glad to know that just my mere presence in a thread can coerce you into subscribing.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #396 of 1066
AVS riff-raff is just one more step in my ascension to AVS legendary status smile.gif

BTW, Fred,, where are your progress updates? I showed you mine, you show me yours smile.gif

On second thought....Gotta be careful talking like that with RT in the room, tho. He might lock the door on us biggrin.gif
post #397 of 1066
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yowza!

In a classic Fred-move, I took all that momentum and progress and scorned it, by basically doing nothing for the last two weeks. I have three more pieces of drywall cut and ready to hang - except for having enough hands. So no GG yet on them. I need to hire an assistant who works to hear me talk. smile.gif
post #398 of 1066
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

AVS riff-raff is just one more step in my ascension to AVS legendary status smile.gif

BTW, Fred,, where are your progress updates? I showed you mine, you show me yours smile.gif

On second thought....Gotta be careful talking like that with RT in the room, tho. He might lock the door on us biggrin.gif

RT/JPA/HF,
Now this is the level of Riff Raff, I've come to expect. Feels like old home week smile.gif
post #399 of 1066
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You smell that? Do you smell that? Green Glue, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of Green Glue in the morning. It smells like ...victory.

I finally pulled the speedloader out of temporary retirement today and hung about 4 sheets (mostly partials) of drywall. It went okay, but I suffer for doing it solo. One piece had to be test fit and adjusted about 5 times before I could hang it. Another should have been, but wasn't. So when i went to hang it, it was too tall by about 3/16 of an inch and I ended up pounding it into place with a 2x4 and hammer. Obviously, that's not the good way to do it, but I take comfort in the idea that it will be covered by another sheet and then inside a soffit. It had to get done, and once I had pumped all the GG onto it, it was going in - you know? That same piece was not quite the shape it needed to be - that is to say it had right angle corners, and therefore doesn't match the wall - so i had to trim it. Again, not the way I want it to go, but there it is.

post #400 of 1066
Progress! I like it.

Every now and again, I have to "adjust" something with a hammer. I don't know about you, but I usually feel better afterwards...... Unfortunately, it usually requires a little extra mud to fix it later smile.gif

Keep chipping away at it, bud! You'll get there.
post #401 of 1066
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

Every now and again, I have to "adjust" something with a hammer.
This is the riff-raff way. smile.gif

And, I know I will get there. I have to stay focused - eyes on the prize and all. I'll get back in there more this week. Thanks for cheerleading - I need it.
post #402 of 1066
Fred.....Fred.....he's our man if he can't do it a BFH can! Now repeat at least two more times! If you are not familiar with BFH feel free to click the link. But for all things good and holy don't, I repeat DON'T look up ZOMGBBQ. There are some things that you just can't un-see.

Glad to see you are at least making some progress. Even a little progress is progress.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #403 of 1066
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When I was in high school, I hosted a (actually a few over the years) foreign student - only for a week or two as part of the German club. Peter got the biggest kick out of the video we watched one day in my physics class. It was a professor from the University of Hawaii talking about energy or maybe impluse or momentum - anyway, he says "use your BPH meter to find out," and holds up a ball-peen hammer. I still can't see a ball-peen hammer without thinking about a BPH meter. It's like "Hey, do you think this wooden stake is strong enough to be driven into the frozen ground?" "I don't know, get the BPH meter and let's find out!"

At work (I'm an auto repair technician... mechanic), we sometimes use goofy acronyms. One of my favorites is for when you're working with really big tires. You're the BAT-man!
post #404 of 1066
^^^^^^HAHAHA! That's funny. I sure you have other acronyms for guys like me who come into the shop, tell you that I'm not a mechanic, but then proceed to tell you what is wrong with the car. Or ladies like Mrs RTROSE who's best description is "It won't run/work/start. tongue.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #405 of 1066
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One piece had to be test fit and adjusted about 5 times before I could hang it. Another should have been, but wasn't. So when i went to hang it, it was too tall by about 3/16 of an inch and I ended up pounding it into place with a 2x4 and hammer

That sounds EXACTLY like when I tried to rock my bathroom. For some reason I CANNOT measure and cut drywall. 4x8 wood paneling, not a problem. But drywall, it just ain't happen'n. The takeaway from my sojurn into drywalling? Pay someone to do it. BEST money I've spent.
post #406 of 1066
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Pay someone to do it. BEST money I've spent.
Oh, I've thought about it. It's a silly combination of pride and cheapskatery that keeps me from hiring it out - that and the idea that if it's not perfect I'll be pissed that I paid someone to do a mediocre job, while I will make peace with my own mediocrity. At the same time, my wife just arranged a $2000 wallpaper job for some upstairs rooms - that's her spending money. I just can't do it like that.
post #407 of 1066
I'm with you, Fred. Every time I pay someone to do something around the house, I'm almost always dissapointed in their work.
post #408 of 1066
I guess I was lucky...I had a great crew.

Something to consider, then, is to pay someone to hang it and you finish it yourself (mud, tape, etc). THAT'S where the REAL skill comes in and it's the part that you really notice.
post #409 of 1066
Don't get me wrong, Tom. I've certainly considered having someone hang mine, and I may very well decide that's the best route to go yet. I really hate drywall. There are just so many things that can get messed up with a "soundproofed" room that it concerns me hiring someone that I will probably have trouble communicating with to do the job...... Did I mention I hate drywall???? biggrin.gif
post #410 of 1066
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There are just so many things that can get messed up with a "soundproofed" room that it concerns me hiring someone that I will probably have trouble communicating with to do the job

Again, I guess I was lucky. NOT ONE of the four man crew that hung mine spoke English AT ALL. The foreman was English fluent, and the actual contractor was eager to get it right. The contractor and the foreman came over to check it out and I explained exaclty what I wanted and how it had to be done, and 130 sheets got hung in 10 hours. I am QUITE happy with my results. If anything was short-circuited, I haven't noticed. And I let them mud and tape and it was all done in aobut 4 days. Would have taken me MONTHS!
post #411 of 1066
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Again, I guess I was lucky. NOT ONE of the four man crew that hung mine spoke English AT ALL. The foreman was English fluent, and the actual contractor was eager to get it right. The contractor and the foreman came over to check it out and I explained exaclty what I wanted and how it had to be done, and 130 sheets got hung in 10 hours. I am QUITE happy with my results. If anything was short-circuited, I haven't noticed. And I let them mud and tape and it was all done in aobut 4 days. Would have taken me MONTHS!

Logan - also similar to my experience, they did in days what I would have spent seasons working on smile.gif
post #412 of 1066
I suppose before I write the idea off completely, I should get some quotes. It can't hurt to at least know.
post #413 of 1066
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I was surprised, for instance, how reasonable carpet installation labor is. My father-in-law has done it before and has a stretcher. So I was just going to do it - then I saw Tim's (I think it was Tim) quote for installation was only like 5 or 10% of the bill. I may have to spend for that. I almost would prefer I didn't know that; I'd save the money, and then be able to say that I had done everything to build the room. That's the weird thought process in my head, anyway.
post #414 of 1066
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Curse me, I didn't get into the theater tonight. But I WILL tomorrow! And I did take the dog for a jog, so that counts for something, right?
post #415 of 1066
Dude, you get points for jogging, and bonus points for taking the dog! Excellent...... Unfortunately, you know the rules. Pics or it didn't happen smile.gif
post #416 of 1066
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::sad trombone music::
post #417 of 1066
LOL! biggrin.gif
post #418 of 1066
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Once more into the breach...

okay, it's not that dramatic, but I did spend over an hour tonight - nearly and hour and twenty minutes - prepping one sheet of drywall. Things did not go smoothly. It's a shame that this has been really my first experience doing any rough construction (of any consequence anyway). If I were more sure and practiced, my walls would be closer to plumb. That would have made a difference this weekend (see drywall trimming, above) and certainly would have helped tonight. I was at the other end of the room and getting ready the second sheet on the screen wall. I measured and cut it to length, then marked and cut out the access hole for the water shut-off. I went to test fit it... First I found that the measurement of the wall height was somehow about 1/4 inch taller than the ceiling 8 inches out into the room, so when I (by myself, mind you) set the bottom at the foot of the wall and begin to "walk" it up, it hit the ceiling 8 inches out from the wall. Back down she comes for trimming. After about three iterations, it stands up. And here's what I find - I had to stop and take a picture:


You'll notice there is a gap almost 1 3/4 inches wide at the bottom left. This is where I heard the trombone music again. But not to be deterred, I measured and trimmed the left side - cutting off about an inch and a half at the top, down to nothing at the bottom. I knew that would shift the whole piece left about an inch and a half, so I had to widen the cutout for the plumbing - and there goes the usefulness of the piece I so careful saved and marked after I removed it from the whole sheet a few minutes earlier. I also went ahead and notched out the right side for the clean-out access hole.

At this point, I've been going at it for over an hour, moving it in and out of the theater to my working stack, laying it down, standing it up, slowly crushing the corners (actually only a very little of that). I set it back up - notice it's not secured in this picture - and here's what I've got:


I have half a mind to scrap it and try again tomorrow, making the shaping cuts more carefully and avoiding all the extra leg-work of moving it around and messing up the edges - especially the left edge that I trimmed - I did a pretty poor job. Would any of you scrap it? Or would you call it a hard-fought win and keep moving?
Edited by HopefulFred - 4/2/13 at 7:07pm
post #419 of 1066
Fred,

I keep hearing you say that you hear trombone music, and then it dawned on me what you were talking about.




I'm on board now, and I'm with ya as I too hear in my head a tune when I mess up. However my version is more like this.



If you are using two layers of drywall, and you are using acoustic caulk to fill the gaps my thought is that you are still good to go even though it is not the prettiest drywall job I have ever seen. biggrin.gif If you are not planning on two layers and you would have to "finish" this layer I would re-do it.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #420 of 1066
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That's the music! But feel free to imagine Homer in my basement, if that feels homier to you.


(Oh man, do I crack myself up!)

I'm leaning toward just hanging it as well... I could be persuaded that what I've done simply won't cut it, but I would need an experienced voice of reason.
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