Epson 3010 glasses - Page 7

Toshiba FPTAG02G works too (based on comments at Amazon.de)

Can anyone confirm if these work with the Epsons? FPTAG02G
At $42 they are a deal.

In German: http://www.amazon.de/product-reviews...owViewpoints=1
and translated: http://translate.google.at/translate...Viewpoints%3D1

(TW 5900 / 6000 = 3010)

BURLAP123 please update your OP with a lot of good Info others are generating who are taking this thread seriously !



Markba1 the monster does not give you a GUI to plug in the delay and duty cycle numbers.....you have to do it manually as described In their user manual that you need to download from their website

Also I did a lot of testing and found that monster can significantly remove the ghosting compared to Epson glasses but they have a sweet spot at the top of the lenses because the ghosting comes back if you view the image from the bottom of lenses as others in hd33 thread reported....this can be an inconvenience if you are lying down and watching the movie but can be corrected by angling the glasses downward....but worth the significant improvement in image quality in some movies with excessive ghosting like the harrypotter 1 movie

I saw that falafala. Did you end up adjusting duty cycle or delay more? My guess is the duty cycle.

To help my fellow 3010 owners to get the best out of their purchase I uploaded a short video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHGe14Tt_2Q

Play this video through your 3010 in SBS 3D mode and pause it....now turn on your glasses and close one eye at a time to see what's the smallest number visible from the image meant for the other eye...this is sort of an objective measure....not perfect but useful....for example with Epson glasses I could see the entire bottom row of numbers....with the monster glasses after a bit of tuning, I can eliminate even the bottom row almost completely (see below for some high level instructions)

Keep in mind that even with the non-tunable Epson glasses, I hardly see any crosstalk in 25 of the 3d movies I own except for Harrypotter-1 and select few scenes from mummies and Caroline....so the crosstalk is quite minor unless you are super sensitive like me....and that's where the monster glasses help....My plan is to use the Epson glasses most of time when I am watching by myself unless I see the ghosting....but for my family they will be quite happy with Epson glasses as they most likely won't notice the crosstalk even if it's there...

To tune the monster glasses, I started by closing one eye and did the following

Strating from left most setting i had to move Dutycycle (left-right adjustment) to the right by around 10to 12 clicks (20 is the highest I think) ...this gives brightest picture with minimal ghosting. ...

The I moved the Delay (top-bottom) up or down till I saw a single image...

You may have to iterate between the two one more time to get the best...I will try to post exact setting later when I play around with my second pair (the first pair looked very scratched on the frame and so am returning it)

Has anyone with the PS3 3D glasses tried to do the 2 players on one screen thing that's been advertised?
I'm just curious if it's even possible without their special Playstation TV?
It looks like that technology should be possible on other devices like our Epson's, but who knows.

Amazon has better deal...notax

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-...5630983&sr=8-1

Thanks. That will come in handy if I need to pick up another couple of pair. Have friends that might come over this weekend. There's 5 of them, and 4 of us, so we'd be two glasses short. And BB now no longer has these on sale.

I haven't watched a full movie with these myself (I used the Epsons (since they fit better on me) while the kids and guests used the PS glasses), but will have to see what I think of them long term. Initially saw no issues. Had no complaint from others using them though.

The one draw back is the rechargeable batteries (IMHO), and the SHORT USB recharging cables. That said, I had all 5 glasses charged in about 1 hour fully from only two USB chargers, so either they charge quickly, or out of the box they were pretty well charged. Need to get a 5+ port USB hub so that I can plug them all in at once, though the short cabled may make that a bit difficult.

Hats off to you (or anyone else) for discovering these !

Got a pair from Amazon and am thoroughly impressed with it. Very well built and fits more snugly than Epsons for my kids. A minor note is they are the most well packaged glasses i have seen !

Very surprised to see it had much less ghosting than Epson glasses on the Harry potter 1 movie ! I will do more objective crosstalk test to see how it compares with Epson and Monster

Another notewrothy thing i love about Epson 3010 is that it gives 10 memory locations to store your settings and i can see myself tuning the color differently for each type of glasses....and i believe we are beginning to reap the benefits of m3di universal standard which openes up so many brands allowing us to get them for real cheap.....

I am hoping to find an optometrist who is willing to give me prescription shades that fit onto one of these glasses so i dont need to wear two pairs

In your opinion, do you think these would fit an 8 year old grandson pretty well? Thanks!

Ed

I'm speaking of the PS3 ones.

they fit me...so they should plus Amazon has excellent return policy if you find them defective

LOL. So you feel you are comparable to an 8 year old?

Ed

sorry i misunderstood your question...i though you were asking if they are to tight ...now i understand you are asking if they are too loose ?

if so , i think they are snuggier than epson and should fit very young children as well

Old Corps

These fit my kids 20,17,16,15,13 with no problems, I have a two year old and they are too big for him but if he holds his head up a bit they will stay on for a bit... of course even if they did fit him he would have them off after 2 minutes anyway...

I would think they should work well on an 8 year old if they have the patience to keep them on! -- IMO

Thanks!

Ed

Thank you! Wow, that's quite a crew you have there!

Ed

with all due respect are you serious about showing your 2 year old 3D moves, let alone movies ? didnt you read the 3D warning which says kids under 6 can have eye development issues due to 3D ?

falafala, I think he mentioned that his 2 y/o won't keep them on, so I don't think so.

...but anyway, looking forward to your results on the PS3 glasses. These might be the ones to buy if they ghost less than the Epsons, correct?

Have you ever tried watching Lions King 3D or any Disney movie for that matter with a 2 year old around? Not sure if its the music or what but they get mesmerized at the picture/sounds and cant stop staring, he will "watch" it without the glasses

Guess that warning should have came along with any device that has angry birds on it seeing how he can unlock an Ipad and find his favorite app to play while the movie is going too...and YES he knows how to turn the sound all the way up to interfere with the movie!

Actually, the software DOES provide a GUI for adjusting the duty cycle and delay. The user manual only talks about the joystick method.
see and download from: http://www.monstercable.com/max3d/default.asp

Thing is, with the software you need to adjust a setting, then save it, then go test, whereas the joystick method is realtime. The software will allow you to see the numeric values which is good to jot down in case you want a reference for later.

AFAIK, AVS sells the MonsterVision and Optima glasses, or visit Amazon (search on "MonsterVision Max 3D"). These are all made by a company called Bit Cauldron, so they are interchangable. You can get 1 - MV3D glasses + transmitter kit for around $110, and then however many Optima glasses you need @ $72/ea.

I got tired of buying different glasses for every machine, these are about as universal as you can get. With some displays you can directly plug in the MV3D transmitter to a VESA port, but others you'll need to capture the blasted IR signal with the MV supplied receiver and then retransmit with the RF transmitter. Result is no IR loss. I prefer to eliminate IR blasting (hide the emitter if necessary) so my remotes will function properly in 3D mode. If you keep the IR blasting enabled, then you'll be able to use any of the IR glasses you may have in addition to the RF Bit Cauldron glasses.

Yeah almost have a full Infantry squad, not sure what we were thinking !!

That why I was super happy when Stansell found these gems and what a great deal on them right now, so we have a pair of glasses for everyone (except the baby)

thanks for the info....I think Monster (or Optoma) RF glasses take the step in the right direction by giving full control over brightness vs ghosting tradeoff...however their execution is somewhat flawed as these large lenses instead of solving the main problem (of fitting better than any others over prescription glasses and giving wide field of view) introduce others such as unwanted reflections and ghosting when viewed from bottom portion....hopefully other manufacturers will incorporate their positives.

And unfortunately there is no way to block the IR on 3010 as they are bunch of red LEDs that are arranged right next to and around the lens unless you can come up with some kind of contraption...but the IR blasting doesnt not bother me anymore as i found a simple trick....a little crude but does the job....i just block the PJ with a book and hit the AV remote and it works

Also i dont want to block IR as i plan to use both monsters and epsons (and now the PS3) glasses simultaneously....this is yet another advantage with this PJ in that it allows both IR and RF to work simultaneously unlike HD33 or 9500

^^^ correct. the 5010 has the option for an external emitter via the RJ45 port on the back. If that is the same RJ45 wiring as the Sony HW30 (TBD) then may be able to directly plug in the MV RF transmitter, or use the Sony emitter for many of the other IR glasses that people may have. Just thinkin of how to make this thread really confusing! haha.

Are these the same glasses that Stansell posted with product ID CECH-ZEG1U? Amazon lists a different product ID of B00562O8U0. Link.

I need another pair of glasses, and $50 is reasonable. Thanks...


-T

The ASIN # on Amazon is not the manufacturer PN.

Also, I believe currently Sony only has one type of PS3 3D glasses available.

http://us.playstation.com/ps3/access...asses-ps3.html

Thanks... just ordered a pair based on your post. Hope you are not wrong .

-T

I just received 3 more pair of the PS3 3D glasses from the same Amazon link Falafala posted last night to go along with the ones I picked up from WallyWorld, They are the same Gem that Stansel found and work no issues!

How are the Sony glasses in terms of comfort? I'm generally quite happy with the Epson glasses, but they start to pinch a bit above the ears after an hour or so.

Sony is more snug......but to me both are very comfortable