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post #151 of 391
2/26/12 at 7:21am
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Originally Posted by mactoast View Post

Hello all, new here to the forum. Just got my 6010 up and running yesterday, it's my first foray into projectors.
I notice that when the projector first powers up the only color it puts out is green? This only lasts about 10-20 seconds and the color seems to become normal gradually. It's not like the other colors suddenly turn on, they seam to fade in, for lack of a better way to describe it.
Picture looks great after that.
Anyone else see this effect? Do you thinks it's anything to be concerned about?

Thanks and great forum.

don't worry about it, the UHP lamps can take a little while to get up to temp, similar to the color shift when first turning on HID lights in a car. The same thing happens to my 5010 and several other projectors I own.

enjoy the projector!
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post #152 of 391
2/26/12 at 7:41am
Thanks zombie10k

I just found some info on this in the 5010 forum and it does seem normal.
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post #153 of 391
2/26/12 at 8:45am
Hello i watched tintin in 3d on the epson and it was beautyful on the epson.

Only the subtitles where ghosting alot.

Did more people have this problem?
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post #154 of 391
2/26/12 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by mactoast View Post

Hello all, new here to the forum. Just got my 6010 up and running yesterday, it's my first foray into projectors.
I notice that when the projector first powers up the only color it puts out is green? This only lasts about 10-20 seconds and the color seems to become normal gradually. It's not like the other colors suddenly turn on, they seam to fade in, for lack of a better way to describe it.
Picture looks great after that.
Anyone else see this effect? Do you thinks it's anything to be concerned about?

Thanks and great forum.

Yes, my 6010 does the same thing.
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post #155 of 391
2/26/12 at 10:01am
Mine does the same thing Sure it's normal
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post #156 of 391
2/26/12 at 12:12pm
Same here on 5010.

mark
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post #157 of 391
2/26/12 at 12:17pm
My 6010 same thing...after a few minutes all perfect!
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post #158 of 391
2/26/12 at 3:56pm
Hello

So do more people have those anoying ghosting on the subtitles when in a 3d movie?
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post #159 of 391
2/26/12 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

Hello

So do more people have those anoying ghosting on the subtitles when in a 3d movie?

so far so good for me, but I have not watched a bunch of 3D yet, so perhaps I am not the best judge.
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post #160 of 391
2/27/12 at 12:52am
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

so far so good for me, but I have not watched a bunch of 3D yet, so perhaps I am not the best judge.

Strange i have ghosting on all my 3d movies on the subtitles.
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post #161 of 391
2/27/12 at 9:52am
Assuming most here would recommend this projector..... I've got a Panny AE900..... Have a 120" Carada screen (2:35), 1.3 gain and Panamorph lens.

Think I finally convinced my wife that a new PJ is required. I've got 3,500 hours on the original bulb and it's just getting tough to watch. I haven't spent much time looking until now and am trying to get a handle on all the PJ's out there I should be looking at.

So, lens support is key for me. 3D isn't big on my list, but at this point if I'm buying a new PJ I might as well get it because the kids will love it. I'm used to the Panny which has auto lens/focus, etc..... pretty basic. Those are nice to haves but not firm requirements for me. Really want to stay under the $4,000 range.

I'm also looking at the JVC. Any other suggestions? Threads I should check out? I will check out zombie10k's mini-shootout thread but that's gonna take a while to read because it's freakin huge!

Thanks all!
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post #162 of 391
2/27/12 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by jerrodshook View Post

Assuming most here would recommend this projector..... I've got a Panny AE900..... Have a 120" Carada screen (2:35) and Panamorph lens.

Think I finally convinced my wife that a new PJ is required. I've got 3,500 hours on the original bulb and it's just getting tough to watch. I haven't spent much time looking until now and am trying to get a handle on all the PJ's out there I should be looking at.

So, lens support is key for me. 3D isn't big on my list, but at this point if I'm buying a new PJ I might as well get it because the kids will love it. I'm used to the Panny which has auto lens/focus, etc..... pretty basic. Those are nice to haves but not firm requirements for me. Really want to stay under the $4,000 range.

I'm also looking at the JVC. Any other suggestions? Threads I should check out? I will check out zombie10k's mini-shootout thread but that's gonna take a while to read because it's freakin huge!

Thanks all!

What is the GAIN on your screen ?
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post #163 of 391
2/27/12 at 1:42pm
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What is the GAIN on your screen ?

1.3..... edited the original post. Thanks!
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post #164 of 391
2/27/12 at 6:13pm
How do the blacks compare to the RS1? I recently had a chance to view Legends of Flight in 3d on the 6010 and was pretty impressed even though the projector was giving a cinema filter error code. Not sure what mode etc... on the 6010. I'm guessing it was in THX mode? Have not seen any 2d on the projector and that projector is off and on it's way to Epson for replacement/repair.
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post #165 of 391
2/27/12 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by jerrodshook View Post

1.3..... edited the original post. Thanks!

Not sure I can help a ton, other than I know my 6010 (or 5010) has the lumens in calibrated mode for your screen.

I have a 120" 1.3 gain screen and the image is spectacular.

I researched a bunch other projectors, and most of them, except the BenQ W6000 has the power I needed in this price range.
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post #166 of 391
2/28/12 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Not sure I can help a ton, other than I know my 6010 (or 5010) has the lumens in calibrated mode for your screen.

I have a 120" 1.3 gain screen and the image is spectacular.

I researched a bunch other projectors, and most of them, except the BenQ W6000 has the power I needed in this price range.

Thanks for the info! The anamorphic support definitely makes it more difficult. A 5010 would be fine for me, and it looks like I have to pay $1000 more to get a 6010. I dont need a mount. The extra bulb is nice, extra year of warranty is nice, THX mode is probably worth something..... but the price difference and the fact that you can only get a 6010 from a dealer doesn't thrill me.

I need to do more research on what else fits my needs....
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post #167 of 391
2/28/12 at 6:20am
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Originally Posted by jerrodshook View Post

Thanks for the info! The anamorphic support definitely makes it more difficult. A 5010 would be fine for me, and it looks like I have to pay $1000 more to get a 6010. I dont need a mount. The extra bulb is nice, extra year of warranty is nice, THX mode is probably worth something..... but the price difference and the fact that you can only get a 6010 from a dealer doesn't thrill me.

I need to do more research on what else fits my needs....

Yeah, I agree with you...it was the MOUNT that I needed that pushed it over the edge...plus you do get 2 pairs of 3D glasses with the 6010. So that is another $200 value.

Anyways...good luck searching...we are here if you need anymore 5010/6010 feedback.
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post #168 of 391
2/28/12 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by jerrodshook View Post

Thanks for the info! The anamorphic support definitely makes it more difficult. A 5010 would be fine for me, and it looks like I have to pay $1000 more to get a 6010. I dont need a mount. The extra bulb is nice, extra year of warranty is nice, THX mode is probably worth something..... but the price difference and the fact that you can only get a 6010 from a dealer doesn't thrill me.

I need to do more research on what else fits my needs....

If you have a reasonably recent Onkyo AVR/AVC, you can do the anamorphic stretch there. I have not tested to see if it supports 3D in the AVRs that support 3D. I would bet it does.

Good job making that Panny last so long.
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post #169 of 391
2/28/12 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Cam Man View Post

If you have a reasonably recent Onkyo AVR/AVC, you can do the anamorphic stretch there. I have not tested to see if it supports 3D in the AVRs that support 3D. I would bet it does.

Good job making that Panny last so long.

Coincidentally, I have an Oknyo TX-NR1007. It's a couple years old. It I know it has support for viewing modes because I have to mess with it when switching from TV to bluray. I'll have to give it a try and see if it works OK with my Panny set to normal.

I'm surprised that Panny has lasted so long! The bulb is definitely way past it's useful life though. Shadows and darker material is tough to watch.
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post #170 of 391
2/28/12 at 11:20am
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I'm surprised that Panny has lasted so long! The bulb is definitely way past it's useful life though. Shadows and darker material is tough to watch.

That was the first projector I bought...and began CIH with the old Panamorph UV85. I jumped to the JVCs with the RS1 (which was a phenomenal change), but the new Epsons are making me take notice. I think that the difference in black levels would be noticable in a bat cave, but in rooms that are not, I think that the Epson 6010/5010 might appear fairly similar in black level.

Cheers.
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post #171 of 391
3/3/12 at 7:54am
I was at a local dealer yesterday, and talked to another one on the phone. Both of them said for 2D they'd take the 9700UB over the 6010. This was the first home 3D projector I had ever seen and thought it looked very good. I don't know if the 3D thing is for me though.... I found myself having to re-focus my eyes on different parts of the screen. It was the same for my wife.

The dealer had a 9700 as well and we watched it. Hard to tell.... the 6010 wasn't calibrated yet, but was in THX mode. The colors on the 9700 had a lot more punch.... but who knows how it was calibrated. The 6010 almost looked a bit muted to me...??? I dunno.

Might be back to looking at the 9700 after this. For 2 different dealers to both push a cheaper projector, that says something.
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post #172 of 391
3/3/12 at 8:29am
what is their motivation.. maybe trying to get rid of old stock? Those 9700's weren't flying off the shelves even in their prime.

if the projectors weren't calibrated, then it's unfair to compare them. THX mode on my JVC looks flat to me as well vs. a good calibrated mode.

The 5010/6010 looks excellent once calibrated and the 3D is some of the best of the current models right now.
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post #173 of 391
3/3/12 at 8:53am
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Originally Posted by jerrodshook View Post

I was at a local dealer yesterday, and talked to another one on the phone. Both of them said for 2D they'd take the 9700UB over the 6010. This was the first home 3D projector I had ever seen and thought it looked very good. I don't know if the 3D thing is for me though.... I found myself having to re-focus my eyes on different parts of the screen. It was the same for my wife.

The dealer had a 9700 as well and we watched it. Hard to tell.... the 6010 wasn't calibrated yet, but was in THX mode. The colors on the 9700 had a lot more punch.... but who knows how it was calibrated. The 6010 almost looked a bit muted to me...??? I dunno.

Might be back to looking at the 9700 after this. For 2 different dealers to both push a cheaper projector, that says something.

I AGREE with zombie10k - BUY the 6010
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post #174 of 391
3/3/12 at 10:52am
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what is their motivation.. maybe trying to get rid of old stock? Those 9700's weren't flying off the shelves even in their prime.

if the projectors weren't calibrated, then it's unfair to compare them. THX mode on my JVC looks flat to me as well vs. a good calibrated mode.

The 5010/6010 looks excellent once calibrated and the 3D is some of the best of the current models right now.

I hear you, but as I said, they were both speaking of 2D when saying the 9700 is better. That very well could be. The one guy told me to come back on a Sunday sometime to test both. he said they're closed on Sundays but he'd open up for a couple hours and we couple go back and forth between the 2.

I've started reading more on the RS45 too. I love the idea of motorized zoom and focus. I'm lazy, and I don't have a sled for my lens so it is in place all the time. So, 1:78 and 1:85 content is always stretched horizontally to fill the screen. I accept it... because it's te way I want it for most movies....

The thought of being able to hit a button and have the projector automatically shoot a 16:9 image on my screen is advantageous.

Decisions... decisions.....
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post #175 of 391
3/3/12 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by jerrodshook View Post

I hear you, but as I said, they were both speaking of 2D when saying the 9700 is better. That very well could be. The one guy told me to come back on a Sunday sometime to test both. he said they're closed on Sundays but he'd open up for a couple hours and we couple go back and forth between the 2.

I've started reading more on the RS45 too. I love the idea of motorized zoom and focus. I'm lazy, and I don't have a sled for my lens so it is in place all the time. So, 1:78 and 1:85 content is always stretched horizontally to fill the screen. I accept it... because it's te way I want it for most movies....

The thought of being able to hit a button and have the projector automatically shoot a 16:9 image on my screen is advantageous.

Decisions... decisions.....

When calibrated the 6010 is gorgeous in 2D and 3D. I've seen the 9700 and disagree it's better than the 6010 in 2D. If you buy the RS45 you definitely should forget 3D completely, it is not good at all, flickering that is very annoying and also ghosts more than most projectors out there. It does have a nice 2D picture though but lamp replacement cost is high and they have a history of premature lamp dimming in the past so not sure if you would still experience it. I was between the RS45, 6010, BenQ W7000 and HW30 and bought the 6010 and LOVE LOVE LOVE it.
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post #176 of 391
3/3/12 at 2:51pm
It says ..... Higher profit margin
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post #177 of 391
3/4/12 at 12:07am
I bought a 6010 for my dedicated light controlled home theater, and running in THX mode I find it hard to believe that any projector could do a lot better, except maybe with black levels - which are still pretty darn good on the 6010. Stunning, bright picture. Detail is impressive. 3D is good but of course not as bright as 2D; I assume from the discussion that some other projectors would be worse. Overjoyed with the purchase. Seems a bargain. About 11 years ago I paid 10K for a used Electrohome 9500LC. Times have changed.
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post #178 of 391
3/4/12 at 12:56am
I wish they did a firmware update that activates F.I in 3d......
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post #179 of 391
3/4/12 at 4:42am
I just saw happyfeet 2 there was way to much ghosting on the epson.

Its above my tolerance..... a pitty

Did somebody else has seen this movie on the epson also?
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post #180 of 391
3/4/12 at 8:43am
I plan on picking one of these bad boys up soon once I get a few details ironed out on setup since this will be my first projector in our theater room.

Can someone tell me how long the power cord is? Based on my room ceiling I may need to hang the projector a good 2.5 to 3 feet from the ceiling to align the projector near the top of the screen, so want to make sure that's even feasible.
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